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Forum Post: The trouble with employment...for the politically inclined!

Posted 2 years ago on Aug. 12, 2015, 10:55 a.m. EST by elf3 (3758)
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So...got facebook or perhaps you have searched google recently? I'm sure there are services out there that check would be hire social profiles...have you seen the Morgan Spurlock Inside Man episode on privacy and data mining? Rest assured members of Occupy or those with independent or left political leanings are going to have a rough time getting jobs in our new technological age. I think it should be illegal for employers to check up on hires to this extent. I even go so far as to say checking references should be illegal. Employers already have 60 days free and clear to test you out without any fallout...they can fire you for any reason. Now say you worked for a lunatic for years and you are beholden to that reference in order to gain new employment. The work system is turning into a venus flytrap where once you get in you can't get back out. In a free country opportunity should exist not just an egg in one basket no second chance dependent on our " holy job creators" and their good or bad or just plain rotten will or allowances. They are gatekeepers to upward mobility and we have become wholly reliant on them for our survival...self reliance is extinct. The worst part is...we have no way to check up on that info or too see that it is accurate it is the Credit Bureaus but with no regulation....let's call it the Job Bureaus. Now, If I don't get a job due to some bit of false info or because I'm a member of Occupy, or due to my web search history ...or said ex lunatic employer...I will never be the wiser...this is insidious control of our free will and it must stop.

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[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Perhaps your porn tastes or hypochondria over medical conditions or posts on Occupy? proved a bit too much for that job you really wanted...you will never know...maybe it was that book you bought on Amazon relating to independent thought?

[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Now when I turned 18 ...I had knowledge of credit and credit bureaus...I was at least aware I had to (be it unconstitutional- ransom) pay to guard that shit...however I was not aware employers would oneday be able to access my entire web history with no regulation or regard for accuracy. There is something wrong in that. Our politicians are failing to apply law to new technology as it arises instead creating a Brave New World and using it to give tptb an advantage over we civilian worker peons.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

employees should share a public website in which work issues can be air publicly

[-] 1 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Employees are playing polker and employers get to see your cards.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

employees should see all the cards

[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Now politicians can probably pay teams of people to "disappear" their online profiles and search histories...but that sort of puts privacy in the hands of the elite, a luxury that only those well off can afford? Is this what democracy looks like?...can I get Trump's profile data and search history? Larry Flint...are u still out there?...Privacy should not be a commodity that can only be afforded by those with the means to pay for it! And should data mining companies be able to charge ransom for your privacy?! I don't believe so...and quite frankly same goes with credit bureaus charging for you to access the information they hold on you...especially since they have proven themselves unable to properly guard it...they have released information as well as allowed data breaches

[-] 1 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

X Files: " The Truth is out there." If you tap into the Collective Wisdom of the Herd and not fall for the Madness of the Herd, you can operate your very own intelligence agency, too. Now has arrived the age of Big Data. Those who know how to discover, hold, crunch, and interpret Big Data hold the lightning bolts, with enough wattage to "fry" anyone to your heart's content.

The important thing is to elucidate the most favorable leverage point. Everything has its nemesis as well as allies. Understanding the predator-prey web relationship allows accurate elucidation.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Though your answer is a bit esoteric for me...I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to convey...this isn't the xfiles...big data is a huge factor now in our society...we can't hide from it. The law can provide very simple solutions but the lawmakers get paid by big data corps not too...so we just need to use big data to fry their asses and see how politicians enjoy being so helpless. Is that kind of what you mean?

[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Also how sad the web reflects the predatory nature of big business as well as the dregs of our society...could change the world...but predators take ownership. Didn't we establish rule of law to keep predators in check?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

Online people talk and sometimes they divulge secret information accessible to all. Somebody always knows but they tend to talk only in anonymity so you need to do your homework to corroborate the information. Trust no one but trust that there is at least a grain of truth in much information. Keep on asking, "Does this make sense?"

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

wiki works because people seek answers over lies

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

In the web of life, one is both a predator and a prey. I, for example, will someday be prey to the predatory fungi even though I eat mushrooms today as their predator. Relationships can be very complicated but you can certainly affect them because you are an integral part of the web of life. It is also true for the cyberweb.

I have very little power individually to block the passage of the TPP but that does not mean that there are no other parties without the power to do so. The important thing is to understand their interests and present the case to them. Many predators appear formidable simply because they have not met their match. We may think of our multinational corporations as being powerful but they still cried mamas (often to the U.S. Department of State) when their foreign assets were nationalized (such as by Venezuela under the late Hugo Chavez) or their patents were blatantly infringed upon.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

Facebook users can be geo-tracked

Imagine what power that will give the holders of the leaked information from the Office of Personnel Management. Drone strikes in the U.S. on its leadership team can easily decapitate the U.S. Photos of their children in kindergartens or school playgrounds can send chills up one's spine. Private companies sell data about where everyone lives, where they had lived, who their relatives are, ages of the individuals, and relationships. Facebook pages tell much about "friends" and mindscape. Phone records track interactions between individuals. IP addresses locate people using mobile apps. GPS can track them to a few feet. Grocery stores keep track of what people bought when, where, and how much. Street cameras identifying car license plates with facial and plate number recognition software can track who has been where, when, and with whom. The real treasure troves are, of course, the intelligence agencies. I am not surprised that Harry Reid was so gleeful about obtaining geo-location data that he fell off his exercise equipment. Learn some Spanish, okay? Nevada means snow in Spanish.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

when one communicates; their location can be determined

this is not a new danger nor one brought on over internet security

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

Big Data techniques are already squeezing your wallets. Checking frequently on an item online jacks up its price shortly before your purchase. Viewing airplane seat reservations changes how many and which seats are reserved for extra payments. I wonder if they actually look at your bank cash balance and flash a price specifically for you and no other. I do not like vendors reaching into my wallet and count my money before quoting me a price that has everything to do with maximizing profits and nothing to do with the cost of production.

Online shopping has made fast video-gaming skills a necessity - a very bad trend.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

wallets pay for rent and food mostly

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

There is no new danger as long as you really have nothing to hide and are willing to live in a fish bowl. However, the ubiquitous data give those who can corroborate information, such as a dictatorial government of the eelites, tremendous power to control people. That can be highly problematic for civil liberty.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

government need not be centralized as we are all able to communicate with each other

Schoolhouse Rock- Telegraph Line

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

Big Data trap us as well as the politicians. For example, our government uses our social security numbers to string up all big data about us to control and sabotage us. It works exactly the same way for the politicians. The U.S. has open data virtually everywhere for corporate convenience, for sale, for spying, etc. so anyone can conveniently access the data, buy the data, examine the spymaster's captured data, etc.

Posting targeted politicians' social security numbers online will surely catch their attention about the importance of safeguarding information. Then they will pass privacy laws. The EU, for example, has stricter privacy laws because of their lessons learnt from the Holocaust. They demanded from Google an individual's "right to be forgotten."

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

I'd prefer my data stay

maybe part of the right to free speech

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

One obvious truth = the wealthy few want to commit murder suicide. Killing the world and so killing themselves.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

It may not be first-degree murders but even the subsequent suicides do not provide atonement. Through their cardinal sin of avarice, the wealthy few sign their own death warrants.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

I'm sure curious to know what it is our politicians are googling these days...from toupees to strange fetishes to medical conditions to fears and paranoid thoughts to the books they read to marital issues...I mean surely they won't mind...since obviously they see no need to regulate this data invasion industry. Even their teams and money will have trouble keeping up with this stuff...eventually they will slip up and information will begin slipping out...so while we have the thumbscrews to us...let's us hope it will backfire on our keepers soon!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

The keepers know that spying has backfired on them.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

can't observe a system without effecting it

[-] 2 points by elf3 (3758) 2 years ago

Are you an observer or a participant Matt...more importantly what is your end game?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5049) 2 years ago

It should read "without affecting it." Don't be shy about affections. "[E]ffecting it" was likely a public educational mutation.

Yes, scientists believed for a long time that they could observe a system without affecting it until they discovered the contrary to be true. Observing is affecting and affecting is observing. They are one and the same (both are information flows).