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Forum Post: The south wil rise again! The south has nowhere else to go.

Posted 6 years ago on April 14, 2012, 10:52 a.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Republicans, Wages, Unions, and the Deep South by Bud Meyers

Standard Republican policy: Pay the lowest possible wages (with no benefits) to increase corporate profits (to pay excessive CEO salaries), while squeezing consumers as much as possible to maximize those profits, and lobbying congress for tax rates that disproportionately tax the poor and middle-class at a higher rate than the very wealthy are obligated to pay. Then cut public education so that only the wealthy have access to the best schools, keeping the rest of America "dumbed down"...just like the Southerners were doing in 1860 before the American Civil War.

Now it's 147 years later and America is still engaged in a civil war: the rich against the middle-class and poor, the Republicans against the women and the working-class, and the North against the South. But the "civil war" we're engaged in today isn't about paying African-American slaves NO wages at all, but about paying ALL American slaves a minimum "living wage".

South Carolina, the first State to declare its secession from the Union in 1860; the State where the very profitable tax dodger The Boeing Company recently built a factory to pay low wages to non-union workers...just like the big corporations have done in the auto manufacturing industry.

Without including cities like New York, Boston, and San Francisco: The a verage monthly rent in the U.S. (including a studio, one-bedroom or two-bedroom apartment) was $986 last year, based on Reis data. Working 40 hours a week, one would need to work 173.33 hours a month at $5.68 an hour just to pay their rent...to keep the rain off their heads at night while sleeping.

If a person were earning the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour (and worked 40 hours a week), after paying their rent, that would leave them with only $272 a month to pay for food and a little heat...and nothing else.

After paying rent, that person earning the federal minimum wage would have nothing left over to live on...no cable TV or internet connection. No landline phone or cell phone. No auto loan or car insurance. No allowance for clothes, emergency savings, or eventual retirement. No money left over to go out to a movie once a month. No health or dental care. Healthcare insurance premiums averaged $414 per month last year, and Republicans want to repeal ObamaCare and de-fund Medicaid and Medicare as well.

The business community also says that "now" is not a good time to raise taxes either, even though they have $2.5 trillion hoarded away in corporate treasuries. It seems as though raising taxes or the minimum wage is NEVER a good time for the business community.

Jen Kern, minimum wage campaign coordinator at the National Employment Law Project, says “You ask business why they’re not hiring. They say it’s because no one is buying anything. Well, a higher minimum wage would give people more money to spend.”

In 2010, 1.8 million hourly workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, according to federal data. About 2.5 million had wages below the minimum wage...and a great many didn't get 40 hours a week either. But another 73 million Americans barely earned much more.

Last year 50% of all U.S. workers earned less than $26,364 a year - - and the poverty level for a family of four is $22,350 a year. But the Republicans say that 99% of us own a refrigerator, and most of us also have a color TV, and so therefore, aren't living in poverty.

The "land of opportunity" has become the "land of low wages". While the job market may still look grim for those looking to replace their good-paying office or manufacturing job, opportunities are expected to abound for a host of jobs paying less than $10 an hour according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Most of the lowest-earning states are in the South. Mississippi had the lowest median income, while West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Alabama rounded out the bottom five. Northern states have historically paid better.

In a report by the Bureau of Labor Statistics they found that the number of U.S. workers in labor unions fell to 14.7 million — the number of private sector union workers fell to 7.1 million and the number of public sector union members fell to 7.6 million. These are the jobs that have best kept up with the inflation and the cost-of-living

Mitt Romney sees no need to increase the minimum wage "right now". Most Republicans don't want legal a minimum wage at all, and would allow the largest and most profitable corporations pay sweat-shop / slave wages to domestic workers if they could. The Republicans would welcome back the days of the Northern robber barons and Southern cotton plantation owners.

Mitt Romney's campaign was stone silent yesterday when asked about his support of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, regarding equal-pay for women, which amended the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Republicans weren't just against the Civil Rights Act, and they aren't just against the minimum hourly pay or equal pay for women; but they're also against worker's safety (OSHA - Occupational Safety and Heath Administration), workforce discrimination (EEOC - Equal Employment Opportunity Commission), worker's rights (NLRB - National Labor Relations Board), collective bargaining (labor unions like the AFL-CIO), worker's retirement (Social Security Administration), and worker's health (Medicare and Medicaid).

If anything but, the Republican party has been mostly anti-worker and pro-corporation for their entire existence (with the exception of Abe Lincoln, before he was assassinated just after the Civil War ended in 1865.)

After Republicans and Tea Partisans took control of the U.S. House in the 2010 elections, we heard that Republicans in the new Congress would focus on "jobs, jobs, jobs."

But that hasn't been the case, unless the jobs in question were those of trans-vaginal ultrasound operators. Other than that, there was a lot of talk about abortions, birth control, cutting government jobs, cutting taxes for the rich, de-funding Planned Parenthood and busting up labor unions.

Republicans, like employers (those noble "job-creators" vexed by bureaucracy and regulation), don't like or respect average American workers (or women) very much - period. Just ask anybody in the South. In the South, white Republican politicians don't like anyone else except for maybe other white Republican politicians.

Members of the Tea Party today are mostly what were once called Dixiecrats. A Vietnam veteran recently wrote in the Denver Post:
"In the Deep South, little has changed in four centuries, even if its oligarchs are now Republicans instead of Democrats. They want a compliant, poorly educated, low-wage workforce with as few labor, workplace safety, health care, and environmental regulations as possible."

"One thing has changed though. For 250 years they've lived in mortal fear of a slave revolt. These days, they don't need armed patrols. If high unemployment doesn't keep these Americans from getting uppity, the oligarchs can always hire some lackey to go on TV and prattle about their 'values'."

The American Civil War wasn't fought for any other ideology other than for "states rights" to use "free labor" when cotton was king. In 1861 the top 1% in the South were the cotton plantation owners, today they're the CEOs in the Fortune 500...the very people that the Tea Party, the Dixiecrats, and the Republicans support.

They still want to keep us "dumbed down", under-paid, and less "uppity", using their phony accusations of "envy" and "class warfare" to make their lame arguments when we all know it's just plain greed.

The top 1% in 1861 and the top 1% today. What's changed? Oh yes. By law, now they must pay the hired help the federally mandated minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. (What would that have been today in 1861 wages?)

(The New York Times) The Puzzle of Measuring Poverty: "Despite four years of economic distress, the welfare rolls have barely budged. Many researchers see evidence of growing destitution. Incomes have plunged."

This is what decades of "trickle-down economics" and tax cuts for the rich have reaped upon the middle-class, the working-class, the working poor, and the poor in America. And the Republicans not only want "more of the same", they want much, much more of the same.

And what is very perplexing to me is, half the poor and low wage earners in Southern states still vote against their own best interests, and vote for Republicans! Haven't they heard? The Civil War is over!!! And besides, friends don't let friends vote for Republicans (unless they own a cotton plantation in the South or a sweat shop in China).

For most working Americans, with more and more being forced from the middle-class into poverty wages, America really is in decline (except for the top 1%). So it's fair to guess that the South will indeed rise again, because by then, at the rate we're going, we'll ALL be working for free.



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[-] 2 points by JadedGem (895) 6 years ago

"friends don't let friends vote for Republicans" Good one! Christians need to understand a few basic things. God knows which fetus will survive long enough to need a soul, really you can't surprise Him or trick Him. It won't happen, it just won't. Second, Republicans are not closer to God, they hate the poor, that's not what Jesus would do!!! Third it is a sign of mental illness to force us feed up the babies so you can shoot the ones you don't like later!!!


[-] 1 points by Skippy2 (485) 6 years ago

Instead of Jacking up the minimum wage, which in the past has cost the people at the low end of society jobs. How about clearing the way for little guys and Mom&Pops to start their own businesses. I've been trying to start one for two years. With all the Licenses, permits, Inspections, Insurance, Bonds and Fees, before I take in the first dollar, it's gonna cost me close to $150,000. Thats not counting Accountant, Equipment and Payroll for 4 employees. I swear welfare is looking better and better. Republican or Democrat I Dont Care! Just get out of the way and let me work. Let me hire a few people. I dont want to be Rich. I just want to be able to sit on my porch and watch my grandchildren play when I get old.

[-] 1 points by ClearTarget (216) 6 years ago

The "land of opportunity" has become the "land of low wages". Or the land of wage slavery.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

gordon gekko was right

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 6 years ago

Apparently, one nano-meter at a time :)

[-] 0 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 6 years ago

Sure the Republicants are bad. I agree. Remember though that The Democrats had control over Congress and the White House and did nothing to raise the minimum wage or strengthen the collective bargaining rights of workers as had been promised. They continue on the path of weakening public education as well. They strove mightily to pass a medical coverage bill that does not resolve the problems of people who cannot afford decent medical care or any at all, a law that will likely be struck down by the Supreme Court.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

You can compare
the Democratic jobs record to the Rs jobs record
You can compare
the Democratic results on Binladen to the Rs record on Saddam
you can compare the most obvious:
These four men REQUIRE that you vote for Obama

John Roberts +
Antonin Scalia +
Clarence Thomas +
Samuel Alito

If you don’t believe them,
…….ask Newt Gingrich or John McCain about Citizens United
…….ask the family of any soldier killed in Iraq about bush v Gore


Are you afraid to
……tell me why supreme court appointments make no difference ?
……tell me why ( roberts + alito ) = ( sotomayor & kagan ) ?

If you cannot see the difference between the democrats and the Rs –
.……and believe that President Gore would invade Iraq, …….or that President Gore would NOT read his PDBs –
…………..………………………………………………..you are blind

If you want to do what Davis & Lee failed to do
……………..……………………………………….…….you are crazy

Just because Scalia and Thomas take koch brothers money – you don’t have to

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 6 years ago

The Supreme Court does matter, I agree but what matters the most is what the 99 percent do in action. That's how progress gets made. As for a putative "President Gore", well there we see the problem! Republicans appear to push hard and Democrats don't shove back in any way that really matters! Gore should have called for the people to take the streets to defend the lawful results of the 2000 elections (as should have Kerry who was robbed in Ohio). Really fighting for the 99 in ways that might really matter is not something they are capable of doing. Now we have runaway state legislatures gerrymandering congressional districts and putting up barriers to traditional Democratic voting blocs. You know as well as the world that they will pull out every dirty trick, in the book - every eye gouge and groin kick imaginable- to win and the Democrats will continue along a boxing glove on one hand and the Marquis of Queensbury Rules in the other. If the Democrats actually were fighters, you would probably have won me over.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

Well, my friend, I am a Democrat - and I am fighting.
I give you a couple of ideas:
Why did the Rs try to impeach Clinton? Not because they thought they would win - it was because they wanted to make sure that when they came to power that the entire nation would be revolted by the prospect o f another civil war.
Why did Obama NOT battle the Rs with every arrow in his quiver? He saw how the devisivness built by bush-cheney-rove hurt America, and wanted peace and co-operation . I do find it shocking that a genius like Obama did not instantly know that you cannot negotiate with a rabid dog backed by 50,000,000 lemmings. [ Hillary would have wrecked the Rs ].

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 6 years ago

The real question is the one you raise. Why doesn't Obama really fight the "rabid dog?" Maybe he doesn't want to kill it after all. Maybe they have more in common than he'd say flat out.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

The bottom line ( in the real world ) is that we can choose

I would rather see Warren or Sanders in the White House
or for that matter Whitehouse or Feingold or Hillary or Biden

[-] -1 points by e2420 (-28) 6 years ago

Obama's a genius? Thanks for the laugh.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

don't ask me -
I didn't graduate from Harvard Law School as President of Law Review -
did you ?
you you know anyone who did ?

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 6 years ago

You really need to read this:


I'd consider supporting a politician who would demand a thorough prosecution on this matter.

[-] 0 points by RoosterCodburnSrEsq (2) 6 years ago

Gee, that's been a long time since Democrats had control of anything in DC........ no wonder they haven't fixed anything for the masses of poor people they love so dearly.