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Forum Post: The Relationship Between OWS and the 99%

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 6, 2011, 3:17 p.m. EST by DoctorX (11)
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So, in the opinion of all here (trolls excepted), what is the status of the relationship between the Occupy Movement and the 99% that is aspires to represent? Specifically, in actual empirical terms:

  1. Does the 99% realise that its interests (collectively and individualistically) and those of the 1% are fundamentally opposed and antagonistic?

  2. Do they rate their interests as 99%-ers as equal to, greater than, or less than their religious, regional, ethnic, gendered, etc. interests?

  3. Do the 99%, in your view, know who their real enemies are?

  4. Do the 99% believe that their conditions can (somehow) be radically improved?

  5. Do the 99% believe that they themselves can (somehow) bring about these improvements?

  6. If the answer to 5 is yes, can they be relied on to act fearlessly in their own interests when the time comes?

If you can think of other relevant questions that gauge the OWS/99% relationship, please contribute them. Number 5 seems especially relevant to me, as I'm sick of some sort of Bolshevik authoritarian gang coming to take over things "for" the people every time a revolution rolls around.



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[-] 1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 10 years ago

Currently the OWS is here to support the 99%. Hopefully more of the 99% will wake up and join in. I am optimistic. Our numbers are growing.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

Hi, This is a very relevant and important topic worthy of all of our attention. Thank you for raising it in such an eloquent manner.

What if you were to ask the same questions of the colonists in 1774?

the answers, given what happened, must have been answered: 1)yes 2)greater 3)yes 4)yes 5)yes 6)yes

"I'm sick of some sort of Bolshevik authoritarian gang coming to take over things "for" the people "

Isn't this EXACTLY what the NYCGA has become? By privately removing the publicly announced Working Group of the 99% Declaration from the 'official' website, and issuing 'official' vision statements that 'we' are leaderless, isn't the Emperor (OWS/NYC) wearing no clothes?

Refusing to publicly endorse the Declaration, which in a nutshell calls for a Third Continental Congress (the First Continental Congress endorsed the Suffolk Resolves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffolk_Resolves on September 17th 1774) is an attempt to deny the 99% that they themselves can deal with the situation.

WHY doesn't the NYCGA put itself beyond reproach and make the endorsement?