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Forum Post: The problem with Mittens

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 28, 2012, 1:34 p.m. EST by lgarz (287) from New York, NY
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Everyone has heard Mitt Romney’s wonderful “Horatio Alger” story of success from Mitt’s point of view. But, when you look behind that carefully embroidered curtain you see a different story. Mitt made his millions by being clever enough to manipulate the stock market and steal American Companies from the American innovators who built them. Mitt and his friends had no extraordinary administrative skills or new innovative ideas to improve the companies they stole. Their most revolutionary Business theory is found in the book “Dress for Success.” But, anywhere they saw vulnerability in an American company they took advantage acting like a “White Knight” to “Save them”, or “Turn them around.”

Some of those American companies were in trouble and went public to raise cash. Others, the majority, were profitable companies who went public to share their wealth with their fellow Americans. All of them were vulnerable to venture capitalists with unlimited funds, and a cold callous, rapacious, survival of the fittest business ethic.

So, Mitt and his fellow vultures would take over an American company to save them, and how did they do that? Mitt’s modus Operandi was: If you were old and made a lot of money, you got “Downsized.” If you were young and tech savvy, you got “Outsourced.” If you were in a Union, you got “Locked Out” If the Employees were making Middle Class wages, they got “Fired.” If you were working full time with benefits, you got “Laid Off.” If the workers had a good Pension plan, they looted it. If the company was still profitable they moved it overseas. If it wasn’t, they sold off anything of value that the Company owned, including its patents, and walked away with millions.

The few companies that managed to survive being “Saved” by Mitt, something on the order of 10 out of 100, emerged as what Mitt proudly hails, leaner, meaner, and more efficient Corporations. (Mostly meaner) In reality, those companies are a prime example of Mitt, and his fellow Republican Capitalist vision of America where extremely profitable Companies are built on low paying drudge jobs with no future, no benefits, and no retirement.

While it is perfectly legal to make millions on the suffering of hard working Americans, shouldn’t we hold our President to a higher standard? No one is saying that what Mitt did to make his millions was illegal, but his methods were without a doubt immoral, unethical, and most importantly, grossly un-American. The companies he sent overseas were American companies. The workers he fired were American workers. The Factories he closed were American Factories. But, worse of all, the Towns his policies devastated and left without hope were all American towns. Please forgive me if I find that particularly loathsome.

There are a lot of things I would like to do to an unscrupulous rich guy like Mitt, making him President is not one of them. And, that is my problem with Mitt. Call me stupid all you want, but I’m voting for the guy that likes to Hire Americans, not the guy who likes to Fire Americans.



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[-] 0 points by TimMcGraw (50) 12 years ago

I don't see you with riches... Trust me the market is not easy. It will cut your head off and serve it to you, so until you show your creds, give respect where it's due.

Romney is getting my vote.

[-] 1 points by lgarz (287) from New York, NY 12 years ago

My dear Mr. McGraw; Like a typical Republican you make assumptions that are not rooted in reality or fact. You don’t know me, or anyone like me. You think you know people like me from what you see on TV, and that’s not what America is about.

If you define “Riches” in terms of money, even though I am worth over a million in terms of land, and well over that in terms of intellectual properties, I do not consider myself rich in those terms. But, I do consider myself “Rich” in family, and “Rich” in friends, and “Rich” in spirit, and “Rich” in Community. I am “Rich” in so many ways that you will obviously never understand because it aint about money.

People like you and Mitt are interested in things like Agro-Business; where someone else does all the work, and you pay them “Coolie” wages to make all the money. While, me and mine, believe in things like “Subsistence Farming;” Where you get your hands dirty, and share the fruits of your labor with your neighbors. You look at Public Education, and moan about how much it costs, I look at Public Ed, and wonder how much it’s worth. You think cutting spending will create jobs. I know the only way to make money is to spend money. Did youse forget that one???

In my experience, “The Market” is easy when you don’t risk your own money, and you control the way it moves. What you obviously don’t understand my friend is that the Market will not cut off your head, unscrupulous vulture Capitalists like Mittens will do that.

I give Respect where it’s due. I just don’t think Mitt deserves any of it. He is without a doubt, Unethical (He lies) Unscrupulous, (He dismembers American Companies) and Un-American (He loves to Fire Americans) and you cannot deny that. You may think that sort of behavior is worthy of respect, but I don’t. The fact that he has made millions, like a scab, on the backs of hard working Americans may be praiseworthy to you, but no to me. Where are you from?

Exactly what “Creds” are you looking for? If you’re talking about Street Creds, I will admit that I’m not the baddest guy on my block, but the baddest guys call me every day to see what I’m doing. Is that enough “Cred” for you???

Why am I not surprised that you’re voting for Romney??? You see his “Riches” as “Creds.” I see his “Riches” as a sign of what’s wrong with America. You believe in everything Mittens says, and nothing that Obama does. You’re still making money on the Stock Market, and you blame Obama for the poor economy. Shoot, you’re doing good! Why can’t you support someone that wants everybody to do good. Have you heard anything the President has said?

[-] 0 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

Do you think that Romney's investments have really caused a net job loss in America?

I don't believe specific numbers thrown out by either him or the Democrats but I would be shocked if it was not a net gain of jobs over all his time there because even though they still profited when a company went under, they profited a lot more when a company became successful.

As much as he may be indifferent to people being laid off, you have to figure that he wanted to see companies succeed for no other reason than to make more money.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

If not a net job loss, then certainly a loss in net pay.

It's the way of the vulture.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

How do you figure? More jobs would likely lead to more payroll wouldn't it? I don't think the jobs lost were significantly better than the ones created.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

More payroll, does not indicate a rise net in pay.

Think McDonald's.

[-] 0 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

Oh you mean net pay per person. Fair enough. I would hope that people would rather work for less money than not work at all, I realize that is not always true though.

On a side note, the new McBites are phenominal.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

It's not a pleasant thing, trying to maintain a family with a sudden drop in net pay.

Note divorce rates.

Be more careful what you eat.

A Windsorite recently left a plain McDs burger on his counter for year.

The bun dried out, yet NOTHING grew on the burger.

No bacteria.

No mold.

No fungus.

No mildew.

It looked almost fresh from the grill.

Scary that you would eat that.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 12 years ago

Is it more scary than eating one with bacteria, mold, fungus and mildew all over it.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

It sat there for year!

A year................on the counter.

Need I repeat that?

Yummy fungicides?

Yummy pesticides?

Yummy sort of beef?

Bon Apitite

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 12 years ago

Isn't it amazing that you can today, with all your freedoms and condemnations, eat a hamburger that contains meat from many different animal bodies and not die as a result.

And you probably do not even know why this is possible. Where did you get fungicides, pesticides etc. I can show you an entire rabbit body that you could say the same thing about.. What is your point. Have you tried to duplicate the experiment using one of your own patties or you just buying into someone's work done for you.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

You leave dead, ground up rabbits, lying around your house?

You're weird.

I've seen this experiment duplicated elsewhere.

Only McDs wouldn't rot, normal burgers from a restaurant do.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 12 years ago

Hey, I could put a dead, cold body out in the area around here and it would not rot either, and that has nothing to do with any of the additives that you are talking about.

I read the article with the initial results. Unless you have tried it yourself, I wouldn't say it was the best study ever done. I put peaches, apricots, beef and a lot of things out for a week during the summer and they never rot.

Makes real good beef jerkey. I could do the same with a thin hamberger from McDonalds put it just doesn't sound that good.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 12 years ago

And thanks to all of this information, you might be missing something very important.

I would bet that you have never eaten a piece of chicken that was recently killed, dressed and cooked by an individual (not from the supermarket)

These is no comparison in the taste between the two. The fresh chicken is far superior in flavor and aroma. All due, in part to the bacteria on the chicken skin - not the same as the grocery which sells chicken that has been processed under standards that kill any related bacteria.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

I live in the city and buy meat from a local butcher.

I rarely eat packaged chicken.

If I cook it and leave it on the counter, it gets fuzzy after a few days, if the cats don't find it first.

[-] 1 points by lgarz (287) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Romney admits to 120,000 jobs after doing some advanced calculus. He never mentions if those jobs were created here in America, or in China. So,there is no question in my mind that he really had a net loss. When the real numbers come out, you will see that I'm right.

If you understand that most venture capitalists used Mitt's model Hell yes that's net loss of jobs for america. Do you think the 14 million unemployed people got there because of a normal business cycle??? No! Mitt and his cronies did it with malice a fore thought to depress wages across the country and Make Millions!

The fact of the matter is that Bain Capital took over more than 100 companies, and Mitt can only cite 4 that are still alive, and working, but they are all minimum wage jobs. The fact of the matter that Mitt is trying to hide, is that none of the company's he stole were successful under his management because it was far, far more profitable to leverage the company with debt, and let it fail. They didn't make much money when a company was successful so they sold it.

He is clearly indifferent to people being laid off, or didn't you hear him say that he loved to Fire people. What you think he was kidding??? And he didn't want any of his companies to succeed because he would have to pay Wages & Taxes! Both of whic take away from his bottom line.

No my friend Mitt is unscrupulous, unethical, and grossly Unamerican! He made more money firing Americans than Hiring Americans and that's the truth. Yo, he doesn't even keep his money in an American Bank! How does that create American jobs???

Don't try to defend the indefensible!

[+] -5 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

. . . mittens . . .

bwa hahahaha

[-] 1 points by lgarz (287) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I thought you wiould like that.

[+] -5 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

I do, I most certainly do