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Forum Post: The Pfelons of Pfizer: Too Crooked to Fail and Don't Go to Jail

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 8:55 a.m. EST by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL
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The Pfelons of Pfizer: Too Crooked to Fail and Don't Go to Jail:

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[-] 2 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 12 years ago

I think that it is important to recognize that what is wrong here is the system more than any particular company. Drugs like Geodon and Lyrica and Viagra have their uses, and we should respect the people who are helped by them. The problem is, we want pharmaceutical companies to do research, but we pay pharmaceutical companies to sell recently invented drugs. Those are two very different things - and it drives them to shift resources away from research and into marketing, and to market in any way that they think they can get away with.

What we need is a way to pay for a robust industry of private research that is evaluated according to what it actually invents, not according to how many pills it sells. A way to fund that research that does not tax the sick when they need medicine, but which is supported by all of society. This, of course, bring it closer to publicly funded research; the only difference is that the company keeps its own buildings, hires its own people, decides its own priorities, and may gain or lose money depending on whether it can successfully meet milestones in drug development for which bounties are paid.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Filthy disgusting rich celebrities like Kelly Ripa, Brad Pitt, Rachael Ray, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil have been using the illusion of 'good will' to sell more overpriced crap. DON'T FALL FOR IT.

Of all their marketing tricks, the fake 'good will' offends me the most. For example: Everyone knows how incredibly expensive health care is in the US. It's downright obscene. The industry is still making record high profits. But they are too greedy to pay for their own research and development. So they affiliate with celebrities like Kelly Ripa and use the illusion of 'good will' to trick you into buying overpriced crap like super high end Electrolux appliances. In this marketing trick, they promise to donate $1 to the health care industry. Later, they will claim the tax deduction. The $1 goes to the health care industry so they don't have to dip into their record high profits for research and development.

Any breakthroughs made are for treatment only. Not cures. Treatment is incredibly profitable so that is what they focus on. Treatment only. There have been virtually no cures discovered in decades. Also, the treatment is not 'given' back to the people who donate money for research and development. It is SOLD back to the people for maximum profit.

In this video, Kelly Ripa teams up with her NBC sponsor Electrolux to get your money and maximize profits for Electrolux and the health care industry. GE, the parent company of NBC, is the largest producer of medical imaging equipment in the world. They are also the biggest corporate tax evader in the world. Meanwhile, NBC pays its talk show hosts hundreds of millions of dollars in part, to plug the health care industry and it's affiliates. It's a complicated web of mass market BS.

DON'T FALL FOR IT.

As far as health goes, of course I want all of you to be healthy. Take care of yourselves, eat relatively healthy, try to keep your weight reasonable, get some sort of exercise every day, stretch several times a day, and see a chiropractor if you have any kind of joint/muscle pain.

Use pharmaceuticals only as a last resort. Otherwise, you will be riddled with side effects ranging from constipation/diarrhea to depression, weight gain, fatigue, rapid heart beat, ect. The more pharmaceuticals you take, the more likely you are to be riddled with side effects.

Watch the video but don't fall for the BS. Don't be fooled by Kelly Ripa's fake smile or her fake 'good will'. Don't buy anything from Electrolux. It's way too damn expensive. After all, they are paying Kelly Ripa millions just to run her mouth. Let the health care industry pay for their own research and development. After all, they are still making RECORD PROFITS.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=uQASu6KeeEc

[-] 1 points by darrenlobo (204) 12 years ago

The problem is that big pharma uses the regulatory system to screw the people. It, along with the medical & insurance industries, is one of the most heavily regulated. That regulation is under their control. It always will be. Regulation doesn't work only free markets do.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

Capitalism depends on competition. It is the natural tendency of industries to consolidate to point of quashing competition (John D. Rockefeller: "competition is a sin").

Big Pharma has become way too big, curing diseases is no longer the aim, milking the cattle (us) is the aim.

Big Pharma should be broken up, breaking their political power, their ability to get away with crimes, and forcing the resultant smaller companies to compete for cures. Now it is more advantageous for Big Pharma to push "take-this-forever" maintenance regimes, than such for cures. This must change.

Let's get the bastards!

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors, coorporate partners, and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. In particular, high profit pharmaceuticals and excessive medical testing. These plugs are countless, calculated, and VERY well written. They have commercial brainwashing down to a science. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Get off the couch and take care of your own body the way nature intended. There is no substitute. If you must see a doctor, then DEMAND that he/she give you more than 5 minutes of their undivided attention. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Be prepared with written questions about your condition and get them answered one at a time. If they refuse, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe excessive medical testing, then ask if they personally own the equipment or if they are paid a commission for each test. If they find nothing new or signifigant, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe a pharmaceutical, then ask for a generic. Better yet, concider a change in lifestyle or simple tolerance. If they still recommend the name brand pharmaceutical, then ask about any financial ties or conflict of interest. If they get offended, then dispute their unreasonable charges and consider a new doctor. If you must drug away your sniffles, worries, jitters, aches, and pains, then at least do your homework. Be aware of the possible side-effects ahead of time. Don't be surprised to find yourself back a week or two later feeling worse. In which case, you should dispute their unreasonable charges. If you are diagnosed with another medical condition, then ask your doctor what he/she has done to rule out those possible side-effects. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't let any greedy doctor treat you like a number, make you wait an hour, or rush you out of their office. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't fall for this CRAP that doctors have no choice but to over-book their time or over-charge their patients because of a high overhead. ITS A LIE. YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The same goes for their bogus claim to over-test so many of their patients because they are afraid of missing something and being sued for it. THAT IS ANOTHER FLAT-OUT LIE. Afterall, if this were true, then it would only explain some of the unnecessary testing. NOT THE OBSCENE CHARGES. It also wouldn't explain their own financial ties directly to the manufacturers of said testing equipment. Thats right. Most doctors hold stock in the very same companies that produce that equipment. Its another conflict of interest. So don't fall for their CRAP. Demand their undivided attention and respect. Afterall, they took an oath. If you have the opportunity before being admitted, then check the record of your hospital. Check to see if they have been investigated or sued for providing unnecessary treatment, excessive medical testing, or fraudulent billing. Dozens have already been caught doing so. Do all of the above regardless of your coverage. Don't force your employer to cover the obscene and often fraudulent charges of a corrupt health care industry. By doing so, you make the problem worse. Keep your guard up when watching ANY talk show. These people are not your friends. They are not your advocates. They are paid actors hired to get your attention and your money. Some of them are also executive producers (Oprah Winfrey, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil.). Nearly every word, smile, and stupid joke is rehearsed ahead of time. Including those which take place so often during what appear to be 'technical oversights' (Today Show. Even their stage hands are mixed in behind the scenes so that you can hear them laugh at every stupid joke.). Its all fake. Its all calculated. These people are not trying to make the world a happy place. They are trying to entertain you only because their marketing studies have shown that you are more likely to drop your guard and support their sponsors. Nearly every segment is about marketing some over-priced product or service. They will use any excuse to plug a gadget, fashion item, travel destonation, credit card, university, drug, medical test, surgical procedure, movie, TV show, book, magazine, song, website, ect. Almost all of it over-priced. Almost all of it resulting in higher profits for their sponsors, partners, and parent companies. DON'T FALL FOR IT.

[-] 0 points by stevo (314) 12 years ago

YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE??? Who the fuck is your doctor? I am close personal friends with three. All working at major nationally renown hospitals . They are NOT multi millionaires. Only LIAR here is YOU numbnutz. Quit peddling bullshit

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Check the stats genius. It's well documented. Most doctors are multi-millionaires. Tell you what. How about a reality check?

Should patients get more than 5 minutes of undivided attention? Isn't $150 a bit high for 5 minutes of undivided attention?

Should patients have written questions ahead of time for their doctors? Should the doctors answer them?

Or should the patients be rushed along so the doctor can see 8 to 10 every hour and make that mid six figure income?

Reality check: Lets see how you answer....

[-] 0 points by stevo (314) 12 years ago

You do understand the doctor, doesn't get the whole $150.00 in his pocket..tax free...right? Liberal imbeciles can't grasp the immense costs of running business like a doctors office, because they never had to.. That's why doctors do it in groups. Renting buildings...offices...utilities, millions of dollars in equipment..hiring nurses,... massive insurance costs,

You're really just ignorant about economics.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

Of course, I understand your first line. I'm pretty sure my dog does too. And he never even graduated from school. Many doctors prefer group practices because they can cross-refer and feed the golden goose. It one of the loopholes in Stark Law. I read the entire document from beginning to end and understood every word. So don't feed me that 'ignorant' crap. I've done my homework.

By the way, my dog and I also understand record profits within the healthcare industry. A solid decade of record profits in virtually every sector of the health care industry.

Right Spike?

He said. Rrrruff! Rrrufff!

Translation: Damn right bitch!

[-] 0 points by JohnnyO (119) 12 years ago

You're asking the wrong question. Here's the question:

"Why are Americans taking so many pills?".

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