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Forum Post: The one's who don't understand The OWS have to think about what got us here? It has come to this--I saw reporter on CNN 3 years ago say that if this Government and WS corruption doesn't stop soon--People will be picking-up Pitchforks!

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 5:52 p.m. EST by Howtodoit (1232)
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Not in any way advocating to actually picking-up Pitchforks, just a figure of speech; one that goes back to the American Revolution, when it all started, I guess way back then, they "all" had Pitchforks!

Why Piitchforks analogy? Like today, They have brokened our backs, once again, like in 1929. Congress, We just want an even playing field, once again, like the last time in 1999!

This could help get it done soon, with some real solutions like the OWS: The DC March to take back our Government.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/

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[-] 3 points by NortonSound (176) 12 years ago

When you have lost everything and are hungry, there is no ism. Corporation's biggest fear is that some young whipper snapper and his educated friends will form a better business plan and push them outmoded fat cats out of the way. Hunger may be the only true motivator, and they know thtt and lazy people know that and when they see the effort going in to make a point that capitalism has been hijacked like grandpa's religion, well they turn on their own like an immune system out of control, attacking its own tissues.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

i'm hungry for CHANGE--thanks for posting NortonSound

[-] 1 points by NortonSound (176) 12 years ago

Yep, I think we are already seeing new big businesses cropping up with better mouse traps, that's what makes democracy so exciting is the new things that are invented by good people.

[-] 2 points by Jackthelad (29) from Woree, QLD 12 years ago

Are you sure America has the best living in the world? I thought a recent survey put Norway in first place and Australia second.

With 9% unemployment, 2 million of your people in jail., 40 million living in poverty, the US has a big problems. America is chewing up 25 % of the worlds resources and the rest of us are saying enough is enough.

And in no way do you run the world. That is extremley offensive to those of us who live in the real world.

OWS is shining a mirror on problems that we all face.

American arrogance is one.

[-] 1 points by bettersystem (170) 12 years ago

Please pass this on if you agree. We are working on setting a date.

Force Change, Boycott Capitalism

We know what the problem is, let us fix it and move forward together.

When you look at a republican or democrat, congress or FDA official, Judges and Justice Department, you see criminals.

Our corruption dates back decades to when those, who in trying to preserve slavery, had to find new ways to preserve it and so created a scientific and advanced form of slavery.

Only two components were required -- the illusion of freedom & choice and the taking away of the freedom to live off the land.

How else would you get a person to submit themselves to mind numbing or degrading work unless you oppress them into it.

Our current system is rooted in corruption and every attempt in preserving it involves manipulating human thought and turning people against one another.

In America the population has been transformed into two major voting groups but they only have one choice.

They had been distracted up until now with television and American culture which prospered through the oppression of other nations.

Americans allowed themselves to be fooled into using their military and economic dominance to seize resources of other nations and create expanding markets for American profiteers.

Now that technology, competition and conscience have evolved Americans are realizing that our current system of government is damaging and unsustainable.

Our government officials have allowed private profits and personal benefits to influence decisions that affect the health and well-being of people all over the planet, not just in America... how much longer will we allow them to rule over us??

Occupy Washington and demand that government officials resign their posts.

We will setup new online elections with a verification system that will allow us to see our votes after we cast them, put our new officials in office and work toward rebuilding our country and our world.

Pass this message along to any and everyone, we already occupy the world, unite.

Occupy Washington, Boycott Capitalism, Force Change

http://wesower.org

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

You hit the nail on the head, thanks for posting bettersystem. And I will see you on 6/16/12--And thanks for bring that up too, I just want this WS greed to stop now, so we all can sleep better knowing: we got this big one done!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/

Please post this link on your Facebook page, that will really help get everyone on the same page--i just strongly feel that eduction in these matters of WS greed, need to be learned first, so on 6/16/12, we and the world can tell them with one voice how We are going to do--The Hill, your job is on the line if you don't...

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

we need some help, I agree; but please don't believe everything you read or hear about us! We are not the Politicans you hear about, the ones that have screwed up the past 12 years and given American a bad rap; after all, most Amercians trace their heritage to Europe, Peace. We are not all bad...

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

good point

[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 12 years ago

The people can only take so much abuse before they rise up against the b.s. corrupt people in place. Anyone who remains complacent or simply blind to what is going on around them and is not of the 1% are completely brainwashed. What else need to happen for these people to wake up from their "coma". This is why this movement has too many critics because there are so many people who may be a bit angry (but not angry enough) because they are being sedated by all the lie put out there to control and pacify them. This is sad. When will the rest of the 99% wake up before it is too late for them? One can only wonder.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

good point

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

For the ones...

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

Happy 2 month anniversary OWS!

[-] 1 points by whatisthisfor (1) 12 years ago

America is the best nation to ever exist in the history of human beings. The people who run this country are the millionaires, but they don't run the country in a political sense. No, these are the people who let you morons be able to by typing on the internet about how much you hate them and how somehow they are the ones who destroyed the economy when, in fact, they built the American economy and are keeping it afloat even when we have a president in office who is clueless when it comes to economics and when we have a bunch of single minded fools set out to wander around Wall Street without a clearly defined objective.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

Here's a goal for you: Break up the Banks and reel in Oil Speculators. Then. the OWS will have not only a clear focus, but also a political force behind them. I don't blame millions, I blame WS deregulation's that ultimately started this movement.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/

Thoughts on this plan?

Keep it up, we need to hear it all here!

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

This is for Juan Williams who just stood-up for us toinight on O Factor. Basically, he said that it's gotten to this point--not in these words--but that's how I translate them...Go Juan!

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

night all! keep it coming...why? it's over when we stop giving it to them...

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 12 years ago

This is what the masses seem unable to grasp:

 If we replace our current leaders with human beings, they will sell out just as far as the current bunch. Our leaders weren't born sold out. Wall Street executives weren't born evil. They were born human. With a natural instinct to gather and store for survival. A natural instinct to care for family and community. 

When modern society was formed, we began to sell out our natural instincts. Survival turned into survival with a little more elbow room. Then survival with a little more elbow room and a nice view. Then survival with a little more elbow room, a nice view, and something pretty to hang around our neck.

Fast forward a few thousand years. With the industrial revolution came mechanized transportation, air conditioning, and television.

We had become somewhat spoiled. Somewhat motivated. Still relatively down to Earth. Still modest enough to appreciate one another, care for one another, and work towards a common goal.

Along the way, the potential for increased personal wealth became more and more intoxicating. Now, just about everyone wants to be rich. They want it so badly, they are willing to sell out basic morality to attain it. They WILL sell out basic morality if given the opportunity.

How can I be so sure? That's easy. Human nature plus years of corrupt influence plus opportunity.

Mother Nature did not plan for modern society. She did not plan on such corrupt influence. She never intended for any of us to seek or attain extreme personal wealth. We simply can not process the concept without being corrupted by it. Without compromising basic morality.

Extreme wealth is the single greatest corrupt influence of modern society. With every 'zero' on the paycheck, our basic instincts to care for family and community are compromised.

Those of you who still aren't convinced, consider this: 

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, and take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, would you do it?

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, OR take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, which would you choose?

Not only is the greatest concentration of wealth in world history the single greatest underlying cause of economic instability. The very concept of extreme personal wealth is the most corrupt influence in the history of mankind.

I speak the ugly truth. 

There will be no reform on Wall Street.

There will be no recovery for the vast majority. 

There will be no government "of the people" and "for the people". 

Not one of us will live to see it.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

You are probably right, but I beg to differ, after all, we are all Free in America! Right? Not like some 3rd World countries, which is my prayer for the rest of the world...

[-] 1 points by unitedwe (78) 12 years ago

i, like, yelled at people in a park in 1968...never finished college...bitched in the 70's...took a few odd jobs in the 80's...tried christianity, then buddhism again, then wicca, then chrsitinity again...drank some more...tried to kill myself. Now, I think I can offer you guidance, even though my peers from '68 control me because i am a weak failure and still blame others for my issues.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

hang in their brother, I feel your pain, and thanks for expressing it here...we will get it right, once again, like that brief moment in '68, but this time it will last longer--I hope man!

[-] 1 points by unitedwe (78) 12 years ago

Thanks, brother! Got a doob?

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

lol. you have me falling off my chair now, lol. cheers partner!

[-] 1 points by unitedwe (78) 12 years ago

Peace, my man. : )

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

come to DC on 6/16/12, beers on me partner!

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

Night OWS Troops! Your work will get us back to where we were in 1999! Hang in there! Please!

[-] 1 points by wdwgrotb (28) 12 years ago

I've been waiting for something to happen for a week or a month or a year,with the blood in the ink of the headlines and the sound of the crowd in my ear.You might ask what it takes to remember when you know that you've seen it before,when a government lies to a people and a country is drifting to war,there's a shadow on the faces of the men who sell the guns to the wars that are fought in places where their business interests run,on the radio,talk show and tv you hear one thing again and again how the ISSUE stands for freedom and we come to the aid of a friend,but,who are the ones that we call our friends these governments killing their own or the people who finally can't take anymore and they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone. There are lives in the balance,people under fire,children of the cannons and there's blood on the wire. There's a shadow on the faces of the men who fan the flames of the wars that are fought in places that we can't even say their names.They sell us the president the same way they sell us our clothes and our car,they sell us everything from youth to religion the same they sell us our war.I want to know who the men in the shadows are I want to hear somebody asking them why,they can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are,but, they're never the ones who fight and die.there are lives in the balance,people under fire,children of the cannons,and thee's blood on the wire

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

spread the word, eduction first, then we get it done quickly by having one voice for reform, the OWS Creed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/lets-get-focused-and-bring-back-glass-steagall-act/

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

thoughts here?

[-] 1 points by Redmist (212) from Yazd, Yazd 12 years ago

I hope you can throw that pitchfork @ 3,000 fps

[-] 1 points by wdwgrotb (28) 12 years ago

The shot heard round the world why do we get rid of the British? Taxation without representation........get rid of all of the old cronies on capitol hill that owe their rich friends,who by the way bought their seat in the first place and we just might stand a chance to start anew until this happens its business a usual that goes for the supreme court too. Somebody needs to fire the first shot for freedom.

[-] 1 points by whatisthisfor (1) 12 years ago

Wow.... Yea.... No taxation without representation... Our founding fathers created this nation because we were being TAXED too much, sound familiar?! Let's just tax everyone the same so that everyone is paying his or her fair share. How much of a fantastic idea is that? How is "FREEDOM" now interpreted to mean "take the money away from the people who worked hard to earn it"?

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

lol

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

well of course, Pitchfork is just an old figure of speech, one that I don't advocate in any way, just trying to make a point here. Wake-up WS and the Government, your cover is blown...

[-] 1 points by Redmist (212) from Yazd, Yazd 12 years ago

Yes I know the adage, and what cover? Please humor me I am damn curious.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

It's an old saying that goes back to the American Revolution, when American all started, I guess way back then they all had pitchforks! lol.

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[-] 0 points by VladimirMayakovsky (796) 12 years ago

I have heard that for years now. Americans are not about to pick up pitchforks. That's too much like real work.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

that's the funniest post I've heard since I jumped in 2 weeks ago, lol. thanks Vlad

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[-] -1 points by OWSisawaste (133) 12 years ago

OWS is creating a class of people that are not willing to work for themselves and just want the government to had them money and a house and food. Well news flash, people have to work for a living and some people have to work even harder for a living. Thats the way the world works. BESIDES, ISN'T AMERICA THE 1% OF THE WORLD? we have the best living and the best overall country in the world.....we also run the fricken world! so welcome to the 1% you are trying to destroy, its America, we are the 1% of the world and if you do't like it feel free to leave....

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

thanks for releasing that..

I perdict, One day you will, hopefully, you will see from the OWS, I pray, is a new Party for the people, like back in old days before we were born...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Spoken like a true 1%'er OWSisawaste. Take your efforts to manipulate elsewhere.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

how's one of the most dedicate people to reform doing?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Just fine. Slapping down idiots (manipulators/abusers) like OWSisawaste is occasionally fun. But would prefer they wake up to the fact that things are changing.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

night DKA

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

I've been waiting since 2008 for this movement. Love all with the OWS!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I've been waiting since my 1st awareness of the world around me, back when I was still a child. Keep-on keeping-on OWS.

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

yes!

[-] 1 points by kerbauer (74) 12 years ago

Do you realize where the planet would be if every single person on Earth lived like Americans? We are up to 7 BILLION people, and the planet can't magically get bigger or produce twice the amount of oil. We are going to HAVE to change and reform our ways or else there will be major problems ahead. In the path we are headed the planet will be out of oil in 50 years!! I hardly think advocating greed and material items is the correct path for the planet's future. Thank God the rest of the world doesn't live like Americans do or else we would already be out of oil. Your style of living isn't sustainable over a long period of time, and instead of just leaving America, we need to change it!

[-] 1 points by OWSisawaste (133) 12 years ago

you sir/maam just made a great point.......not everyone can be Americans....so be fucking happy you can live like one and enjoy it! You are a very lucky person since you even get to bitch about your country...........

[-] 1 points by kerbauer (74) 12 years ago

You live a "me first" life, and it would take 7 Earths if every person wanted to live like an American. You are selfish and greedy and by your comments it is obvious you only live for yourself. You know what I feel lucky about, having a beautiful planet to live on. In less than 50 years this may not be the case, and we will only have selfish thinking to blame IF nothing changes. Lucky for future generations, we ARE changing, and you can come on this forum and scream and yell and curse all you want, but it won't make a bit of difference! In fact, you give everybody reading these forums a reason to dislike you, your opinions, and selfishness. Thanks for furthering our cause!!!

[-] 1 points by wdwgrotb (28) 12 years ago

I like that,but, ya know we just aren't bitchin loud or long enough.We at America that is what this is all about,money is good,but when only the few have all of it the rest of us becomes slaves to the ultra rich. I understand that there will stop be some that no matter what you do for them they will still think they are owed something for nothing.Let the rich help out and all of this will end. I predict not only in this country but in other countries the poor will get fed up with their position in life AND THEN LOOK OUT THE SHIT IS GOING TO HIT THE FAN. Peace to all and say some prayers for not only America but the whole world.

[-] 1 points by OWSisawaste (133) 12 years ago

well the more you bitch and moan, the more that you make America look bad..