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Forum Post: The National Defense Authorization Act is the Greatest Threat to Civil Liberties Americans Face

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 8, 2011, 10:49 a.m. EST by bakerjrad (0)
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/12/05/the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-the-greatest-threat-to-civil-liberties-americans-face/

Please read this, and all other news articles! There is a media-blackout on one of the worst bills ever to be passed in the US. This dictates that Americans can be held under custody by the military without charges, legal representation, or trail indefinitely.

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[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/code-red-if-these-two-horrible-bills-pass-in-congr/

Please check the update on this bill listed on my thread. This bill picks up where the Patriot Act left off (which robs us of our 4th amendment rights), now with this bill we can be picked up and arrested here and abroad without charge or trial and thrown into a military prison indefinitely. Americans need to wake up to what is going on in Congress. There should be huge outrage over this and protesting and marching in the streets. This is so un-American and un-Constitutional. I wish that this movement would take this up, but for whatever reason they are not doing this at this time. This is something that can't be ignored.

Please look at the list of House committee members who are resolving the differences between the Senate bill to their own bill. Call them and let them know how you fell about it. Pass this message along to all you family and friends. The word has to get out. People need to wake up before all our constitutional rights go out the window.

[-] 1 points by MonetizingDiscontent (1257) 10 years ago

:::::Obama to sign NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law in a Few Days?:::::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiKvSz_wX8&feature=player_embedded

(by poiqweruadjfkewrijo) As soon as December 13, the President will sign NDAA Section 1031 into law, permitting citizen imprisonment without evidence or trial. The bill that passed Congress absolutely DOES NOT exempt citizens. The text of Section 1031 reads, "A covered person under this section" includes "any person who has committed a belligerent act". We only have to be ACCUSED, because we don't get a trial.

  • Confusingly, Obama threatened a veto for 1032, but NOT 1031. 1032 is UNRELATED to imprisoning citizens without a trial. He has never suggested using a veto to stop Section 1031 citizen imprisonment -- in fact, it was requested by the Obama administration. Watch the video for proof.

  • The Feinstein Amendment 1031(e) is dangerously misleading. Don't be fooled: In the text of 1031(e), "Nothing in this section shall be construed...", the only word that matters is "construed" because the Supreme Court are the only ones with the power to construe the law. The Feinstein Amendment 1031(e) permits citizens to be imprisoned without evidence or a trial forever, if the Supreme Court does not EXPLICITLY repeal 1031.

  • Any time you hear the words, "requirement for military custody" this refers to 1032 NOT 1031. We MUST not confuse these two sections. In its statements, the Obama administration has actually contributed to the confusion about 1032's "requirement for military custody", which is COMPLETEY UNRELATED to Section 1031 citizen imprisonment without trial. These tricky, misleading words appear even in major news stories. Don't fall for it!

If we act urgently to tell our friends, family, and colleagues, we may still be able to prevent this. Here is what we can do:

1) Americans must know about this to stop it. Urgently pass this petiton as widely as possible: http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-ndaa-section-1031-citizen-imprisonment-l...

2) To spread this C-SPAN video evidence, Thumbs Up and comment on this video. People deserve to watch this before he signs it.

3) Congress can still block the law before December 13. Write and call your Representative and Senator telling them to stop NDAA Section 1031 and the dangerously misleading Feinstein Amendment 1031(e). Contact your Representative: http://writerep.house.gov/writerep/ Contact your Senator: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

4) Write and call the White House to tell the President you won't sit by and watch NDAA Section 1031 and the dangerously misleading Feinstein Amendment 1031(e) become law: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Excerpt property of C-SPAN. Fair Use: http://legacy.c-span.org/about/press/release.asp?code=video

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 10 years ago

If you have not seen the hearings in which the top military and homeland security brass, gave sworn testimony, while setting the state for a seamless transition of our nation's military and local police forces, you very well should.

Look on CSpan or CNN.

They are chilling and the LIST of identifiable persons they purpose to immediately detain under this bill, certainly are not limited to Al Queda or any other similar groups. By far, the list includes all participants of OWS and many other activists in this nation, even PauI supporters and religious groups!

If the evil powers that be make it this clear they do not want Mr PauI as the executive officer of this nation, there has to be a good reason.

Note, nary a single wall streeter, banker, mortage/finance criminal has be charged or brought to trial while Obama postures and lips off about PASSING LAWS that will enable him to persure the criminals.

News flash, the laws already exist and every decent person with common sense knows this. However, what we can reasonably assume he means, is changing things up to protect those of which are in the same billionaires club.