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Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 3:06 p.m. EST by demonstrator (167)
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http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/peopleandpower/2011/10/2011102683719370179.html

By People & Power reporter Bob Abeshouse

Charles and David Koch are each worth about $25bn, which makes them the fourth richest Americans. When you combine their fortunes, they are the third wealthiest people in the world. Radical libertarians who use their money to oppose government and virtually all regulation as interference with the free market, the Kochs are in a class of their own as players on the American political stage. Their web of influence in the US stretches from state capitals to the halls of congress in Washington DC.

The Koch brothers fueled the conservative Tea Party movement that vigorously opposes Barack Obama, the US president. They fund efforts to derail action on global warming, and support politicians who object to raising taxes on corporations or the wealthy to help fix America’s fiscal problems. According to New Yorker writer Jane Mayer, who wrote a groundbreaking exposé of the Kochs in 2010, they have built a top to bottom operation to shape public policy that has been "incredibly effective. They are so rich that their pockets are almost bottomless, and they can keep pouring money into this whole process".

Koch industries, the second largest privately-held company in the US, is an oil refining, chemical, paper products and financial services company with revenues of a $100bn a year. Virtually every American household has some Koch product - from paper towels and lumber, to Stainmaster carpet and Lycra in sports clothes, to gasoline for cars. The Koch’s political philosophy of rolling back environmental and financial regulations is also beneficial to their business interests.

The Kochs rarely talk to the press, and conduct their affairs behind closed doors. But at a secret meeting of conservative activists and funders the Kochs held in Vail, Colorado this past summer, someone made undercover recordings. One caught Charles Koch urging participants to dig deep into their pockets to defeat Obama. "This is the mother of all wars we've got in the next 18 months," he says, "for the life or death of this country." He called out the names of 31 people at the Vail meeting who each contributed more than $1m over the past 12 months.

In the 2010 congressional elections, the Kochs and their partners spent at least $40m, helping to swing the balance of power in the US House of Representatives towards right-wing Tea Party Republicans. It has been reported that the Kochs are planning to raise and spend more than $200m to defeat Obama in 2012. But the brothers could easily kick in more without anyone knowing due to loopholes in US law.

The Kochs founded and provide millions to Americans for Prosperity, a political organisation that builds grassroots support for conservative causes and candidates. Americans for Prosperity, which has 33 state chapters and claims to have about two million members, has close ties to Tea Party groups and played a key role in opposing Obama's health care initiative.

This year, Americans for Prosperity spent at least half a million dollars supporting Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's efforts to cut social spending and roll back collective bargaining rights for public employee unions. The legislation passed by Walker makes it more difficult for unions, which are major backers of Democratic candidates, to secure funds for political purposes. Americans for Prosperity is also very active in a battle against unions in Ohio, another important 2012 presidential state. Its president, Tim Phillips, says that the organisation is winning in Wisconsin and around the country "because on the policies of economic freedom, we're right". He refused to tell People & Power reporter Bob Abeshouse how much the organisation is spending to combat the unions.

The Kochs have also poured millions into think tanks and academia to influence the battle over ideas. According to Kert Davies, the director of research for Greenpeace in the US, the Kochs have spent more than $50m since 1998 on "various front groups and think tanks who ... oppose the consensus view that climate change is real, urgent and we have to do something about it". As operators of oil pipelines and refineries, the Kochs have opposed all efforts to encourage alternative sources of energy by imposing a tax on fossil fuels.

Patrick Michaels, a senior fellow at the CATO Institute, often appears in the media to contest global warming science. CATO was founded by Charles Koch, and the Kochs and their foundations have contributed about $14m to CATO. Since 2009, there has been a sharp drop in the percentage of Americans who see global warming as a serious threat according to Gallup polls. Davies argues that the change can be attributed in large measure to the efforts of scientists like Michaels and others who are funded by the fossil fuel industry.

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[-] 1 points by louise (6) 12 years ago

These two guys have such a hatred for other people I have often wonder if they were abused.

[-] 1 points by OurTimes2011 (377) from Arlington, VA 12 years ago

We expect recent efforts to boycott products produced by companies owned or controlled by the Koch brothers, (Charles and David), (pronounced "coke"), to grow in 2011, and will eventually include an effort to have pension funds drop the company's bonds. Their company, Georgia Pacific, has $10 billion in outstanding bonds.

The organizers of the boycott are suggesting people not purchase things that their company produces, including: Brawny Towels, Dixie Cup Products, Angel Soft Toilet Paper, Mardi Gras Napkins, Quilted Northern Toilet Paper; and Stainmaster Carpets.

[-] 1 points by AZvotenow (44) 12 years ago

Ir would be appropriate for all demonstrators to read this post. I found a few other intelligent posts that reflect accurate current and historical evidence for the current collapse of American democracy. Unfortunately there are few rational voices among the screaming youth who are derailing what could be a meaningful rescue. The only tool everyday America has against power is to register and vote. They do not believe in voting and have little knowledge of true power.

[-] 1 points by jssss (71) 12 years ago

another tool- put your $$ where you mouth is.

buy products that support things you agree with. whatever that might be- used, family owned, american made, fair trade... etc.

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 12 years ago

if demonstrators believed that voting could bring back democracy- ( in a corrupt system ) then then they would not be demonstrating.

those screaming youth- are the hope of our future-

now i also accuse you of being a agent-lol

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

Meanwhile Obama has received more from wall street than any other President EVER and is backed by a man far worse than the Koch bros. George Soros.

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 12 years ago

a paid agent-welcome-lol

[-] 0 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

Givien a choice between Koch Bros and George Soros I wiould side with the Koch Bros. And are you a paid protester? Jeff Immelt and GE got $126 MILLION stimulus dollars despite making over $6 BILLION profit and paying ZERO TAXES at the same time. BaROKE Obumbler's $852 STIMULUS bill to create JOBS and start SHOVEL READY PROJECTS turns out to be a SLUSH FUND FOR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS LIKE SOLYNDRA, GE, JEFF DOERR and STEVE WESTLY, other DONORS, fictitious zip codes,etc.. Obumbler blew $852 BILLION, NOW HE WANTS $450 BILLION MORE---SHOW US THE MONEY, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE $852 BILLION?? Criminals always return to scene of the crime, Obumbler's BACK TO STEAL MORE MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS! Millions went to foreign banks, $529 MILLION went to Finland to build hybrid cars, MILLIONS went to Hezbollah, MILLIONS TO CRONIES. The same type of CRONIES are on his JOBS BOARD! All we'll get from them is more LIES, DECEIT, FRAUD!

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 12 years ago

i rest my case-thanks-agent

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

You made no case at all. And i belive it is you who is being paid. Again useful idiot. 14,000,000,000,000 (fourteen million million) plus $1,600,000,000,000 added each year. We currently can not pay the interest on this money with our tax revenue. Taking all of the money, not taxing all of the money, of those making over $250,000 per year does not fill the gap. The clear implication, taxes do not do the trick so "taxing the rich" is nothing but a Democratic buzz word to incite support. We must stop spending and that means some are going to suffer, some. If we do not control this insanity, we all will suffer, ALL. Are you aware that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of wealthy Americans making contingency plans to leave America if this thing blows up? No? It is true. Are you aware that millions of Americans are making plans to unite for mutual protection if this thing blows up? No? Well, it is true also. On the verge of collapse and the damned Democrats are still name calling, finger pointing, twisting words, lying and any thing else they can do to further a failing ideology. No? Read:

  • The ten poorest cities and percentage of population below the poverty level:
  • Detroit , MI 32.5%
  • Buffalo , NY 29.9%
  • Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
  • Cleveland , OH 27.0%
  • Miami , FL 26.9%
  • St. Louis , MO 26.8%
  • Chicago, Ill. 26.4%
  • Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
  • Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
  • Newark , NJ 24.2% U.S. Census Bureau, 2010 What are the common threads? Democrats and unions Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961. Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954. Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984. Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989. Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor until now and he was recalled St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949. Chicago, Ill (7th) has never had a Republican mayor. Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908. Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952. Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.
  • In the history of our federal government: 5 Representatives have been expelled. All 5 were Democrats. 14 Senators have been expelled. All 14 were Democrats. 21 Representatives censured. 16 Democrats, 5 Republicans. 7 Senators have been censured. 4 were Democrats, 3 were Republican. 2 Presidents have been impeached. Both were Democrats. The troubling facts: 80% Democrat offenders, 20% Republican A ten year old child can look at the facts above and see the common threads. The nation is next if this insanity is not stopped, now and forever
[-] 2 points by louise (6) 12 years ago

I find your comments interesting but then again Mr. Republican if I voted for a party that took this country to war on a lie for oil and war profits and the end results were not only the billions of dollars spent but the thousands people who were killed. I guess I look for a scapegoat too.

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

As I remember the vote on the war was BI PARTISIAN and was overwhelmingly approved by both side. You can't say that for Lybia which was Obama's war. Then he doubled the troops in Afghanistan. And I have been a life long Democrat. The party is a long way from the JFK days.

[-] 1 points by Keeku (31) 12 years ago

Yepper Ohhh... I so want to ignore your paid arse. lol It's just that your story seems to be lacking some cause and affect facts. Like.. if taxes don't do the trick. NAFTA (which was Republican President Reagan's idea) has pretty much taken away all the good paying, stable jobs in this country, as well as all the taxes people were paying on their paychecks. This also includes lost state and local taxes. The ten poorest cities.. Your list is comprised almost entirely of the cities that suffered the greatest number of middle class manufacturing jobs. Before NAFTA, those same cities were doing very well thank you. If Democratic cities and states are bleeding now it's because "job creators" are blackmailing them into following their agenda... threatening to move needed jobs to different states.. states that preserve their capitalist "freedoms". They demand their taxes are slashed or eliminated, labor laws are "reformed", public lands and water rights are given to them, and unions go away. Their message is: "We, your job "creators" and lords, are here to bless you with jobs if you prove yourselves worthy and repent for your "socialist" sins. Since we love this country and all it's tiny, ignorant, little, cheap laborers, so very much we feel pity on your lowness in our elevated realm of affluence. Because you are all so stupid and lazy we feel that we need to look over you and protect you from yourselves. Give yourselves to us and we will provide precious low-wage jobs and sub-standard, over-priced housing for you. If you resist you will be deemed unworthy and we will take away your homes, your health, your children, and all else you value in life." Yepper... Obviously, you are under 10-years old.

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

Thats it ignore what the Democrats are doing. Jeff Immelt and GE got $126 MILLION stimulus dollars despite making over $6 BILLION profit and paying ZERO TAXES at the same time. BaROKE Obumbler's $852 STIMULUS bill to create JOBS and start SHOVEL READY PROJECTS turns out to be a SLUSH FUND FOR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS LIKE SOLYNDRA, GE, JEFF DOERR and STEVE WESTLY, other DONORS, fictitious zip codes,etc.. Obumbler blew $852 BILLION, NOW HE WANTS $450 BILLION MORE---SHOW US THE MONEY, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE $852 BILLION?? Criminals always return to scene of the crime, Obumbler's BACK TO STEAL MORE MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS! Millions went to foreign banks, $529 MILLION went to Finland to build hybrid cars, MILLIONS went to Hezbollah, MILLIONS TO CRONIES. The same type of CRONIES are on his JOBS BOARD! All we'll get from them is more LIES, DECEIT, FRAUD!

[-] 1 points by Keeku (31) 12 years ago

Soo.. how do we fix it? Let a board of appointed corporate heads run the country. I believe that is their true agenda. They will call themselves the new "Gaurdians" of our (their) freedoms. The Republicans are already holding conferences to to figure out how to reform the constitution and our amendments. They will be rewritten to better serve the needs of multi national corporations and the super rich. Personally the thought of having corporations running the show makes me too scared to sleep at night. I work in a billion dollar global corporation. And I tell you.. they are all about rules and restrictions.They want to tell all the employees what to do every minute of the day, even what personal habits we are allowed. So how do we fix it?

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

well one thing you keep blaming the Republicans while the Democrats hold all the cards. Obama might be the most corrupt President ever. And a billion dollar corp is run by gov regulations.
You fix things with your vote. But there is a great divide. too many pay nothing and want it all for free. Both ends of the scales need fixed. Both ends are weighted against the middle class.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

The reason you are underemployed is that you have not realistically assessed your worth.

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 12 years ago

the judge just cast judgment- you lost and i won-

now put your tail between your legs and walk away-

you were no fun - no challenge- a battle of wits where you only had half of one-lol

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

I won't argue with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 12 years ago

yepper---i really,really, thank you for your answer to my post-

you were very knowledgeable- you presented an excellent case.

i gave you enough rope -to hang yourself - you climbed on the chair put the noose around your neck and kicked out the chair from underneath yourself-

you proved to anyone reading your posts that you were an agent- paid to disrupt this movement-- that was fun- we need to do it again-

and i will under a different name-

[-] 1 points by Yepper (277) 12 years ago

You ignore the facts. You are the paid Soros Acorn agent. http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=189197

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

What you fail to mention in this is polarization and our failing demographics. And polarization is nothing more than the creation of alliances, for reason.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

The very first thing Obama did after entering office was to board a plane to Europe for the purpose of inspiring confidence and encouraging investment in our market. How is it that a person who has never nationally governed is so suddenly adept at ascertaining its financial needs?

And I'm going to tell you something, I was of the Tea Party mentality long before the Koch brothers made their billions. And so was everyone that I had ever associated with.

[-] 0 points by anonymouse (154) 12 years ago

You may enjoy this.

More Koch Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8tbrYFoPEg