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Forum Post: The Great Con

Posted 1 week ago on July 6, 2019, 10:27 a.m. EST by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX
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In 1973 the people of Chile owned their own farms and were free to grow what they wanted and needed. After Pinochet they worked on rich landowners farms and grew cash crops for export. That is: "fair trade."

In 1989 Iraq was an "emerging first world nation" with free education from pre-school through Phd. Gasoline was 5 cents per gallon for Iraqis. Medicine, electricity and communications were free.

Trade benefits no one but the traders. Like bankers, investors brokers and CEOs, traders don't actually do real work. They are parasites. Their activities, organizations and the profits produced by them are harmful to the community and will destroy the human race and the planet we live on, if allowed to continue to thrive.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

It's a pyramid scheme - only those who get in at the start make money - while they get as many people as possible to buy in - then they pull the rug out from under everyone as they trash the holdings for the last cent they can squeeze out of the holdings - and move on to the next scam to do it all over again!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

And the real estate market is a straight up Ponzi. The brokers and lenders make the most on the houses we "own" year in and year out. The higher the prices the more they make.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Yep - People do not have a chance to own actual property any more - it's ALL been turned into another rent game by a different name that offers a fantasy of ownership - hell - if something valuable was discovered underneath the grass, and it couldn't be gotten to without removing the home sitting on the property, you would be evicted in one way or another so some greedy corporation could get access!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

if something valuable was discovered underneath the grass, and it couldn't be gotten to without removing the home sitting on the property, you would be evicted

They won't have to pay the "owners" when the fracking rig is set up. Eviction may not be necessary for the extractions to proceed. Perhaps they'll be able to take the oil or gold and leave the "owners" liable for the clean up. Mineral rights have been retained in most new deeds for the past forty years or more. And the sheeple just say, "Oh, everybody does that ..."

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

"Oh, everybody does that ..."

Yeah - they do - & then they end up turning on their water faucet one day and flood their house with gas from where fracking was done on their mythical property as in reality they don't own it.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

the free market apocalypse is coming. the end is near!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

The Corporations can't continue to pay a less than minimum living wage & expect that they won't be killing off their own business market. Same with rentals - they can't keep raising their prices & not expect to price themselves out of business.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

It's a better investment than most others, though. It's leveraged in one's favor by the perennial inflation created by the government colluding with the wealthy people to steal the fruits of labor of the not-so-smart working stiffs. The interest is often mostly tax deductible to shield one's working income.

Don't go overboard, but joining the other huge hogs in drinking the hoggyswasch makes much sense. One has to live somewhere so the worst that can happen is one has lived in one's own dwelling for a long time but the real estate didn't appreciate much in value.

All wealthy people whom I had met in my lifetime owned real estate. It's a great money pump for sucking blood from all the not-so-savvy working stiffs. My elderly neighbor whose cistern my Mom "annexed" under our family's Monroe Doctrine after Mom had destroyed my micro-submarines for launching my [aborted] Operation Neighborhood Microvampires, helped Mom indirectly to secure credit to own our dwelling forced upon our family with the threat of eviction due to the death of the landlord and his widow needing cash quickly to survive.

It was a terrible tragedy but turned out alright and for us an excellent investment! We never thought that our elderly living-alone-by-herself neighbor could become the enabling source of much familial stability (as we didn't get evicted and become homeless) and (since to continue to stay sheltered, we had to pawn valuable things, eat the fatty austere dishes, etc. so that we could own our dwelling which became the foundation of our eventual) wealth! She had connections and she was willing to use them for helping us (because we took care of her as if she were our very own Grandma.) The U.K. may be a bit like my Grandma, I suspect, who may not seem to be strong or rich but actually have both sway and influence through her children.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

The interest is often mostly tax deductible to shield one's working income.

Do the math on that trite misdirection.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Do the math on that trite misdirection.

Yep & let's not forget about all of the Home Owner (HEH as if) deductions that were removed with the wealth care trillions of $'s tax gift away to the wealthy few!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

Inflation bails the indebted ones (the wealthy ones) out. The pivotal thing is avoiding any debt overload. The more debt one has the wealthier one gets with the power that be "printing money" to help one out.

In my family's case, we didn't have tax deductibility so it's irrelevant (we weren't living in a kleptocracy but a socialist polity!) I agree that it's a potential misdirection but it should go into one's financial calculations as to how much debt one can feasibly carry without going broke.

I think my "birthplace of the wooden gods" neighborhood had social bondings that helped make life better for us the paupers. I don't have the seemingly instinctive revulsions upon hearing the word "socialist" because I was thinking, "What's the big hoopla about kids having their wounds healed, elderly ladies having their cisterns filled with clean potable no-cholera water, etc? It takes money or effort but many worthwhile things are like that."

The smiles on the kids' and the elderly living-alone ladies' faces are rewards enough. At one time, we were kids, too. At another time, we, (not me because males tend to die young and almost never get to become elderly living-alone ladies,) might become the elderly living-alone ladies who found it challeging to fetch the heavy water they need for everyday living. I was fascinated by my Grandma's strip of plastic (my first encounter with this flexible and transparent material) hung near her cistern as I didn't know what it was. I think she used it for scraping her tongue and then rinsing her mouth out with a scoop of the water from the cistern but I had never seen her doing it so it remained a mystery to me.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

The more debt one has the wealthier one gets with the power that be "printing money" to help one out.

Look, we're all getting rich and wealth is being distributed to everyone! I don't know how I missed the big picture this outcome implies. I must be the most naive and obtuse individual who ever lived!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

aahhhHAAAHAAHAHAhahaha - did the sucker actually say we were getting wealthier the further we go into debt? OMG . . . .How INSANE!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

Doubling the paper wealth for everyone is possible by just trading a tiny amount of security at double the last market value and everyone who owns the security has doubled their wealth in that security on paper according to the new market value but not everyone can liquidate paper wealth into real wealth en masse. The real world goods as measured by loaves of bread, pints of orange juice, etc. haven't doubled in quantities.

Who has the best opportunity of liquidating their paper wealth into real wealth first? The one who traded the tiny amount at double the last market price. Of course, the SEC will tell you that market manipulations are illegal but there are law makers and law breakers, right? Can't they be one and the same? The one who knows best how to break a law without consequences is often the one who had made the law in the first place due to one's knowledge. These "it takes one to know one" knowledgeable people may appear as the ones who work in the court systems, legal services, legislatures, regulatory agencies, police departments, etc. If one has farted in the elevator, the best way to hide that is to hold one's own nose tight and start complaining to everyone else how stinky it smells and swear all kinds of terrible curses at the person who has done the dastardly deed. That's how the swamp is "drained."

There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich (i.e. @4:03 smart and good in business.) The arrogance that accrues triggered violent counter-reactions to "we answer to a higher authority; we are just a better and superior people."

You're not a Jew!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

Right! I'm not a Jew. And you're not a genius. Few corporatists are anything but racists, fascists, nazis or fools and you're no exception.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

OH MY GOD - Sour Grapes is a Racist, just look at that prejudiced meme He (?) just used!

There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich

I thought he (?) was a bit nuts long before "that" statement, but a Nazi too?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

Since they are not geographically isolated, Jews are NOT a race! If you believe that they are, you've fallen into their confuse-your-brain trap.

Why is Palestine/Israel the homeland of the Jews, and not the Arabs or the Palestinians? Jewish idea. Everyone can have their own idea. Why can Israel be a secular Jewish state of the Jews? Isn't the U.S. a secular state of Christians, right? The phrase, "In God We Trust," is on every bill and coin issued by the U.S.A. God exists for Christians, doesn't He?

Why is Red China is subverting the U.S. on multiple fronts? So it is written, so it must come to pass.

From where did you get the [unfounded] idea that I'm a Nazi? I don't mind being called a Nationalist (a bit too old-fashioned though due to the karma accumulated to it during European Colonialism) but the usual connotations of "Nazi" doesn't fit me.

Being a secular Christian state, the U.S. should conquer and occupy Judea and Jerusalem because Jesus Christ was born there. Both the Jews and Moslems must be cleansed from these areas, as Jesus did, driving out the money-changers from the Temple. Isn't it about time for a Crusade?

I think that the problem with Jews is that it's very difficult for a non-Jew to become a Jew because in Judaism, Jewishness isn't something that just about anyone can acquire by converting to Judaism, unlike Christianity. It often requires a matriarchal descent, a spousal relationship, or an exceptional honorary bestowment. I believe what Jesus said but I don't worship Him. I think that people will generally agree that I am a Christian (despite my somewhat bizarre event, maybe each and every son of our family was specially "chosen," for we dressed well and ran in a hurry.)

Guess what I would have uttered at that time were I conversant with English swear words? "Holy Shit!"

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Being a secular Christian state, the U.S. should conquer and occupy Judea and Jerusalem because Jesus Christ was born there. Both Jews and Arabs must be cleansed from these areas, as Jesus did driving out the money-changers from the Temple. Isn't it time for a Crusade?

Now you are espousing ethnic cleansing? Sounds like a continuation of Adolf Hitler & His Nazi's war. So you want to cleanse Israel & Palestine, and then what? Go on and cleanse Syria & Iran & Iraq & Afghanistan? Then will you go on to Turkey and Greece & Italy? Where do You Stop? Or do You. You gonna go & cleanse the whole world? Ya fuckin Lunatic!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

You're injecting me with Islam's growth-phase idea (you did come up with a great hit list of countries, though!) You are the contagion.

I am not angry. I am no-mad. I must return to stabilization. After my completing sterilization, there will be peace.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

(Edit) I haven't injected you with anything! You made Your BS White Supremacist comments all by yourself! Though - talking about injecting. . . . just what in the Hell Kind of a trip are you on? 90% of your comments seem to come straight out of the Twilight Zone - only the Twilight Zone is at least comprehensible - whereas for your usual crap - I don't think even You understand a lot of the crap you spew. You on a perpetual Bad Acid Trip?

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

I don't think even You understand a lot of the crap you spew. You on a perpetual Bad Acid Trip?

His reply below beginning, "Are you a Jew?" tells all. He thinks he's a "really stable genius" and we don't understand his "code." In his pubescent 12 year old mind (even if he's 90) he believes the turbulent, confused drivel he spews is enigmatic profundity. He reminds me of someone ...?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

He reminds me of someone ...?

Hmmm . . . lots of possibilities. . . the Orange Criminal-N-Chief for one has a problem with spewing word salad. . . .

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

The genus Homo might be a neotenous offshoot of the genus Pan. Hence, Trumpanzees are likely relatives!

It's good that you think that I "tell all." Yeah, it's transparently fair from my end, isn't it?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

Are you a Jew? If yes, I understand why you are offended so I apologize.

I love the Twilight Zone show. Welcome, fellow fan! Don't get too worked up over anything that I had written. In the open environment in which we communicate, there are messages encoded not directed towards you at all. Someone else may understand the public-key encryption process used. People who talk in code and understand code due to necessity or deniability may know better what I had written. There is no secret here.

Meaning is the result of a double-ended [communication] process combined with semantics. The most efficient communication is through apparent random noises and yet under selectable control. Communication is inherently a paring-down selection process from all possible received messages to a probable intended received message. All communication is subject to errors but arbitrarily low-error-rate communication is possible under the correct condition. The command to launch the nuclear missiles on a submerged nuclear submarine to destroy a country or continent needs to have an extremely low error rate but self defense is always very much out of any hierarchical control. What good will a court-martial do when there may not even be any court left?

Kids arguing about whose god was more powerful was very enlightening. I get it that a wet-clay god cannot even cross the lake without being decomposed, let alone carrying or saving anyone else along the way. A god carved out of wood with some bloody red gory color painted upon it seemed pretty meek, too. There was a valid point made that our kids were bowing down in worshipping idols or false gods contradicting the Ten Commandments they purportedly adhered to.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

You are engaging in anti-Americanism, also known as PC-ism, due to your attack on the First Amendment so -- as described in the video, Red China is freer to allow Trumpery freedom in its social environment without repercussions. It also proves that the U.S. is being mind-controlled by Judaphiles to benefit Jewish bankers.

Here are the few reasons why Apple loves to be inside of Fuckchina.

Corporations can pollute with impunity and they can sell electronic gadgets to the numerous isolated-confinement kids of migrant workers who have nothing better to do. It's terrible to be a shut-in kid because one doesn't have the money to spend on doing things outside of the home since it's a costly city environment. There may well be a new Apple device called iNept Outweigh coming out sometime.

Oh, say can you see?

The first word which I had learnt from my first kindergarten's vocabulary book was Apple. The first word which I had learnt from my second expensive but shitty [literally deluged by shit on one ignominious evening!] kindergarten's vocabulary book was Apples. Support fishting as inculcated or 98.4°F sake.

My bidét baptism came later on from der After, of course. "Holy shit! God works in mysterious ways -- God definitely knows about the hygienic sequence in which the bidét water must come later than the shitty Deluge." God knows and uses noncommutative algebra in which AB != BA (or AB <> BA) where A and B are baptismal events by a burst sewage pipe's effluent and bidét water, respectively. God's Love for me manifested in His doing the bidét water later.

Every umbrella is a bow and arrows set and a spear to be. Every high-rise building can be an execution platform (I saw a result of this, a slight-built-black-clothed scrawny elderly woman's body surrounded by a dark red splatter imprinting the concrete, like a roadkill flattened sparrow having made its small feathered final mark on the World; I suspect a social safety net failed,) especially accessible in Red China. Every glass bottle can be a handy lacerating weapon if broken correctly. Every long shirt sleeve, scarf, or tie can be a handy strangulation weapon. Every larger paper bag and duct tape can be a suffocating weapon. Every knife can do kosherizing. Chlorine bleach and urine are components of a binary chemical weapon. The fastest way to stop an opponent in a fight to the death is to severe the carotid arteries at the sides of the neck. Bayonets aimed at the hollows behind the collar bones are very effective (no ribs there.) If unavailable, bamboo poles (used for hanging clothes out to dry) with an end cut off at an acute angle can substitute for bayonets. Remember that when hungry enough, dogs (which believe that the wolves have the just cause) will join the wolves to take down and devour the carcass of their master or mistress. Tanks have very confined spaces perfect for a chemical attack on their ventilation systems. Their undersides and tracks are the usual weak spots. The U.S. took a lot of casualties early in the war in Iraq from shaped charges penetrating the lightly armored troop carrier vehicles. Nitrate fertilizers may be bomb-grade material. Note that they may be traceable as evidenced by actual war experience.

The second word which I had learnt from my first kindegarten's vocabulary book was [a human] "arm," a strangulation weapon, often used by the heavyset ["undercover"] ones wearing shades, with big fat muscular arms and very short hair to avoid being grabbed during a scuffle. When I got to Ur-anium, I learnt the word "umbrella." The second word which I had learnt from my second kindergarten's vocabulary book was "arrows," I could still remember what I had learnt from my first kindergarten's vocabulary book so "umbrella" -> "zoo" -> "apples" -> "arrows" was taught to me in sequence in my kindergartens (our ancient warrior culture never died!) We the neighborhood children made bows and arrows from broken umbrellas and strings we got from the neighborhood garbage dumps and took turns to shoot at a shittoad (from the drainage ditches) which we had nailed to a board. It twitched in blood.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjD6Prv8KjjAhXWZs0KHeyICk4QFjACegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRacial_antisemitism&usg=AOvVaw3cMo7IP_BYyF4HuPFX4QES

You made the comment "There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich" - which is a racist meme. & Nazi's used it a lot. So perhaps you need to rethink some of your prejudices? BTW White Nationalist is White supremacy & is very much a fascist (Nazi) thing - quite popular with the KKK. You don't like being associated like that? Then you have some work ahead of you to distance yourself & you could start by not referencing White supremacist KKK Nazi crap!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

I'm not a genius. If I were, I could have protected more people. Here's what the eastern European Jews sang about. Maybe it can help you. Although I was not and am not a Jew, I heard the song's message when I was still in my single-digit years. I know where my allegiance lies despite my multiple-cultural background. Home is where the heart is. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!

By my reckoning, Jews are not a race but the people adhering to, converted to (through a marriage,) or born of a stipulated matriarchal line in a particular monotheistic religion which had originated near Jerusalem. If you claim that I am a racist because of my reference to Jews, you are mistaken.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

Trump's not a racist either, to here him tell it. But corporatist subsumes racism as the means to gain a working class base. Corporatism conditions fools with all the shit you've been spouting. In case it's not clear, this is not an implication about you. It's an observation of your loyalty to the corporatist (a more accurate if not perfectly congruent description of fascism) regime that rules under the hegemony of the Wall St. Oligarchy.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33770) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Trump's not a racist either, to here him tell it.

Actions not Words! I keep telling everyone = it's NOT what people say, it "is" what they DO! & the Criminal-n-Chief's actions are CRIMINAL as well as Racist!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

I'm not a corporatist according to the definition I'd looked up.

Corporatism is actually what gave rise to the British East India Company, the Opium Wars, and Hong Kong's very peculiar status. There were other similar corporations.

The rise of the West owed a lot to the rise of Corporatism. I think that we are now seeing the rise of Red China as the rise of Statism in "China, Inc." Even Google scurried to the National Security Agency for help when it had discovered that the STATE OF CHINA was behind the hacking of Gmail accounts of Red China's political dissidents. A totalitarian State is generally more powerful than any one of the corporations in it. Red China reaches out with its corporations, academics, state-sponsored students, "cultural exchange" students, honeypots, marmite jars, "dating" burglars/swindlers and fake-marriage human-trafficking visa-fraud concerns, high-tech worker bees, etc. all over the world but especially targeting the U.S. because Red China wants to steal and eat our children's and children's children's lunch.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

Civilization is the story of ruling elite classes that measure the progress of our human community by their increases in wealth.

Corporatism, according to Mussolini, is a better handle for fascism, because the former is a marriage of state and corporate power. Corporations are the tax and liability avoiding invention of the ruling elite classes that dominate and threaten the existence of the human race. Those who consistently take up the cause of the parasitic race that rules us, whether foreign or domestic, and echo their propaganda are self destructive fools, just like the rulers themselves.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2341) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

Don't conflate individual consumers with exploitive trade oligarchs. That's obtuse to say the least. For profit organization of peoples' labor, by elite parasites, is a crime against humanity.