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Forum Post: The Force Behind Bills To Lower Wages and Suppress Workers’ Rights? You Guessed It: ALEC

Posted 1 year ago on July 30, 2013, 7:38 a.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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Other high-profile ALEC fights include battles over “paycheck protection” in Alabama, Arizona, Florida, and Missouri. In 2012, Californians battled an ALEC-style “paycheck protection” bill, disguised as campaign finance reform. Prop 32 was defeated at the polls in November 2012, but not until millions had been spent on both sides. Opponents were right to be worried. New numbers from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel show that Wisconsin's Act 10, which crippled unions' ability to negotiate for better pay and benefits, cut union membership in half and forced workers to pay thousands more in benefits.

Of course, these shmucks don't want talk about this. http://inthesetimes.com/article/15355/special_report_the_alec_fueled_race_to_the_bottom_in_wages_and_workers_righ/

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[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (28241) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

In compliment:

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Careful there, that might be an issue. Issues bad. Fortune cookies good.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28241) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Silly me - thanks for calling that to my attention. {:-])

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Oh............any time.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28241) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Your a good egg - GF.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Thanks, Filbert.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28241) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Welcome - definitely not a gmo - and that's for sure. {:-])

[-] 1 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

ALEC must carry a cost. I agree after we expose and conquer the conglomerate. This conglomerate is powerful enough to control whether ALEC will thrive or not!

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

It's already been exposed.

[-] 3 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

Do you believe we should alter it or ignore it?

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I believe that you should stop ABCing the shit. We have had threads on it. Not every day is a brand new day.

[-] 2 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

It still seems to be in the proper stage, but I'm interested in learning about it in a deeper way. What stage of understanding do you believe we are in now?

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

No, you're fucking around.

[-] 2 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

I guess you're right. When is the debt ceiling show coming on? Aren't the pesky repubs going to shut down the government?

We might have time to discuss immigration or even ALEC, but my heart will no longer be in it, because the suspicions of a financial world mafia do indeed exist and because they control all of those issues, they must be stopped.

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You aren't interested in any of the above. Frankly, you are more into blowing smoke up each other's asses and dumbing shit down. And socks.

[-] 3 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

My point is there's no reason to care about any of those issues when a, "super-entity" exists to act like a casino to the world. The super-entity will choose the result of each particular issue. Hope dies.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Bullshit.

[-] 2 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

We are discussing whether disagreeing slightly on just one of many issues can prevent formulation of the 99%. This forum is an excellent example of a group of like minded people not being able to unite against tyranny.

Discussing issues other than the super-entity is possible as long as all of us keep in the back of our mind that we are aware that taking care of the conglomerate has to be step one.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Again. Bullshit.

[-] 2 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

Cockroaches should be smashed.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by windyacres (777) 0 minutes ago

Cockroaches should be smashed. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


You will be.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6638) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I believe she was talking about wedge issues, GF, not all issues. The multitude of wedge issues the government uses to keep us distracted.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Oh--I understand this precisely.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6638) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Renneye's not stupid enough to believe "issues don't matter." I can pretty much guarantee you she was talking about wedge issues. The difference between talking about Zimmerman and Zurich, if you know what I mean.

Not that SYG is unimportant, mind you. That's not my point.

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3749) 1 year ago

It's ok, 'G'. GF has been trying to indirectly pull me out through one liners with other posters for days.

If she has something to say to me, she knows where I am. Just like she tells everyone else to do with her.

No need to get involved. Thanks, but I've got this.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I did. It was the biggest line of shit. It still is.

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3749) 1 year ago

Disagreeing with the post is one thing, which is fine. I usually don't bother answering simple differences of opinion...but, you've since gravely distorted my words in your posts to several people here, and you're too smart to not know that that's what you're doing. In my book that's a lie.

I never took you for that kind of a liar. But then, with your ever increasing vulgarity, I haven't paid as much attention to your posts as I used to. So, something changed with your intentions here, along the way.

Once I realized you intentionally lied to make me look bad, well...what can I say, I lost all respect for you. I know you could care less about that, and that's fine. No biggie.

But, you're a part of the 99% and have a right to be here. I do wish though, that you would quit with the extreme vulgarity on this forum...and I find it head-shakingly unbelievable that you haven't, at the very least, been reprimanded or warned, even slightly. Many people have mentioned this now. There are times when the recent comments section looks ridiculous.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I watched you lay a line of shit out. It was shit. I told you it was shit. Still think it's shit. No lie. And I am making fun of the shit. No lie. Because it was shit.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3749) 1 year ago

"Issues are bad", That's about one tenth of the comment I made. You purposely have repeated those words out of context. Distortion with mal-intent.

You are a liar. One could argue that everyone lies. But lying to purposely make another look bad...is the worst.

I have no interest in a discussion with a liar. And I have no interest in a 'discussion' with you. I've seen your discussions, and they're not my cup of tea. Try and refrain from making the forum look like hell.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You must have me confused with someone that gives a fuck with what you think. It was a shit post-no lie. It was a shit line-no lie. I'm making fun of it-no lie. It's still a shit post. Go fuck yourself. Go build a bridge to the ground on............facebook.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3749) 1 year ago

Heheheheheh....a contortionist.

You can think my post is no good, and even say so. No problem. But don't take my words and rearrange them to suit your own purposes.

Behave yourself.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Hehehe. Listen, you dumb fucking bitch. You fucking jumped someones ass stating emphatically that issues were bad. Several people came and pat you on your fucking head. There's nothing to twist. Fuck. Now. Off.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I have this down. Precisely.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6638) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

No. You don't.

But you guys keep on thinking there's some grand conspiracy against you if that's what it takes for you to feel important.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I have this down precisely.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28241) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

BTW - TWEET

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday Protected account 36s

The Force Behind Bills To Lower Wages and Suppress Workers’ Rights? You Guessed It: ALEC - In These Times http://inthesetimes.com/article/15355/special_report_the_alec_fueled_race_to_the_bottom_in_wages_and_workers_righ/

Affects U??

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Careful now, there are those among us who have difficulty putting together cogent sentences with the Koch's or ALEC. in them.

John Engler, former governor Michigan is one of those that tie their tongues.

A Koch industries trainee, and a member of ALEC, during it's "formative years", he is today, Rick Snyder's mentor and go to guy.

I suppose it's to help him find the loop holes in the law Engler left there during his tenure. .

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/John-Engler/665090801

That's correct, ladies and gents........TPTB have actual names and relationships with lobbies and industry.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

".TPTB have actual names and relationships with lobbies and industry."

Lets hear em. And then lets see how many you purposely left off.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

here's 3 of the most damaging ones

Charles Koch

David Koch

Pete Peterson

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

I agree. Would you like to add anyone else? Maybe Jamie Dimon?

Who do you think the Koch brothers answer to? Because the ones with the real power are the ones you never hear about, the ones who arent in the Forbes maagzine.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Sure...toss him in. No problem.

I'm sure there's a conspiracy theory out there about who the Koch's answer to.

For now?

They run the most insidious anti Democratic campaign in the country.

Fucking libe(R)tarians.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

property ownership laws ?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Which ones?

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

The Libertopians will save us!! Oh, no, wait.............never mind.