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Forum Post: The Big Media Lie:::The US Government's Purchase Of 1.4 "Billion" Rounds Of Anti-Personnel Ammunition

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 19, 2012, 8:48 p.m. EST by Hanssen (36)
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The big media lie about the US government's purchases of over one billion rounds of anti-personnel ammunition

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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4020) 1 year ago

This is a problem.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

that is an insane premise. The government has no plans to subjugate the U.S. population with overt and widespread violence . . . no, no, not at all.

There are, however, vast portions of the bureaucracy, in conjunction with conservative think tanks and business interests, intent on undermining our beliefs - in self, in the Constitution, in its interpritation . . . and they have such cool tools . . .

and if they get their way, we will become the land of ten cent zombies

[-] 1 points by NLake72 (510) 1 year ago

Ok, even if there was no plot whatsoever to subjugate the population by force... Can we all agree that this sounds like government overspending?

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't know - how many kids we got in the military?

I mean, because if we are going to send kids to a war zone, they damn well better know how to shoot.

You can't just turn a screw to dial in the eye, hand coordination and acclimate to the charge of the shell - it takes practice - about 2,000 rounds of practice, more or less. Then there is, you know, patrol. Another 2,000 rounds for ten patrols - and hope they don't have to use them.

So I dunno. How many rounds is that?

And given the circumstances, it might even have been wise spending. I haven't seen the contract - it might not stipulate a firm price, but leave it flexible, based on market forces. You know how they love market inputs - especially when demand can be induced by . . . extraordinary circumstances -

  • how many more wingnuts are going to go on shooting sprees between now and November?


[-] 1 points by Proteus (141) from Quebec, QC 1 year ago

Think of what is not publicly known, that's just a contract among many, we can't keep track of military assets in truth, we have just a fraction of the image, and we don't remember or care about past contracts, there will be another one in the future, will you remember this one?

My point is that we should not believe our governments to be saints because they are elected democratically, and nobody have more knowledge about how things may develop in the future than governments, and they won't tell the truth of such predictions, you're lucky if some documents get on wikileaks.

My belief Is that in somewhat 10 years, there will be widespread troubles, and there may be no other solution to control the population than using military personnel, and that may go to the extent of, yes, civil war. I see those wars in the middle east as target practice, every chances we get we send troops play there with weapons while singing democracy, which is just a coat to make capitalism pretty, but when people will revolt against Democracy-Capitalism, who will come to the rescue? You think it will react differently than all those countries? No, it will do exactly the same, defend its institutions, attack opposition, 2 clans will form, those who want to keep the current political ways, and those who want a new way of doing things.

I have chosen my side long ago, even if it is the wrong side...


[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

This is CRONY CAPITALISM at it's finest

[-] 1 points by jbgramps (159) 1 year ago

I don’t remember all the details, but what they actually did was to sign a contract to buy up to X number of rounds of ammo to be delivered as needed at a set price. They aren’t having a billion rounds delivered. Just a contract signed to set a good price. Also, If I remember correctly, a lot of it is target ammo, not hollow point. That makes more sense since you use fifty times more target ammo for training.