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Forum Post: The beatings will continue until the protests stop.

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 18, 2011, 7:16 a.m. EST by FawkesNews (1290)
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Clearly, that is the logic of ignorant police officers and corrupted officials, that are horrified at how rapidly this movement is growing and how uncontrollable it actually is turning out to be.

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[-] 1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 12 years ago

It does not have to be inevitable. Think OWS think! Outside around above below behind the box, but think of ways to change history without a necessary repeat.

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[-] 1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 12 years ago

Things to look forward to with shock and awe: as per this loaded cartoon:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/wall-street-mobs/2011/10/10/gIQAEkO6aL_video.html

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[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Barking police dogs and barking cops are not shocking or awesome to me, they are expected and currently a bit late. I anticipate the fire hoses again before this is all over.

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[-] 1 points by Dontwatchthis (174) 12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

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[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Great movie, the relevance at this time eludes me.

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[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

thats only the fast way to make sure we achieve critical mass sooner rather than later. Every beaten person has friends who will join when they learn their buddy has been injured. You can't beat them into submission. the fundamental problem of the occupy movement is how 1 percent wins the argument against the 1 percent for the 98 percents attention. beating the crowd simply ensures that happens quickly. The only rational way to have a chance of winning against the occupation is to ignore it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

I have been active here since the very beginning, and since the very beginning I have been trying to make some core points. These points clearly have not been digested or fully understood by the mob, and so I'm going to try to make a further attempt here again.

  1. Merely protesting in the streets will not bring change. In fact merely protesting in the streets is in fact a means to the end of avoiding the real work of a revolution, which consists of the evolutionary solutions, answers, problem solving process, and new political alignment we create.
  2. This forum is absolutely disorganized. It won't be read by most people and it won't and can't function as a core organizational system.
  3. Back at the very start of this, I petitioned the admin to add multiple sub forums and a wiki. Multiple sub forums were promised but have never arrived. I think that this tells us that the intention actually of this forum is message control and containment. The entire purpose really of this forum has always been to keep us spinning in disorganization. We are hanging out on a forum that expressly exists to actually keep us confused and disorganized.
  4. The real work of a revolution isn't going to happen on forums, it needs to happen in a much more organized fashion using collaborative software.
  5. The assorted other details about how to collaborate, how to work open source direct democracy, how to focus in on science instead of isms, how to become hyper rational about this, are details which are essential and crucial, without which we can predict the movement to fail.
  6. Technically speaking we are not 99 percent, we are one tenth of one percent attempting to represent the 99 percent. Our core mission must be to communicate to and with the 99 percent, and get them to join us. This forum will not accomplish that and neither will any of the other main websites.
  7. You can follow other people out to other wikis and other websites, where they will try to get you to get involved with what they want and their program, but frankly speaking, there is no other website and no other operation out there which understands the complexities involved with meaningful organization. In short, everyones being led to get involved here there and everywhere else, scattering the movement in directions which ultimately do not gain us critical mass, criticial momentum, or critical systemic lucidity.
  8. I have managed to get a wiki put up and have already put on that wiki evolutionary details which make it more organized than anything else. I can't do this alone. There are 10 or so wikis now out there, most of which were created in response to my pleas for a wiki, and several of which are in domains owned and operated by some corporation, (wikia, etc) And which we can thus assume will simply be closed, shut down, or deleted if they become useful to the movement.
  9. Probably at least half of the invites you have to go participate at some other site are people who are scamming everyone to waste time and energy, distort the movement, co opt it, and etc. When you walk off into a closet ask yourself how you know that the closet isn't created by some fed, or by some republican, or by some democrat, in order to sway things in their direction.
  10. The only meaningful strategic option we have for real change in this country is to create a new third party, and take every political office in this country.
  11. Once that is done, we can have an article 5 convention. If we have an article 5 convention before getting rid of the oligachs, that just opens the genie from the bottle for them to abuse that process with their corruption and evil.

For these reasons, I beg of you to please immediately join me on the wiki. We need to have all of these details and all of these ideas put together in an organized fashion, rather than posted in a long scrawl which will never be read.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ

http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw

http://www.opensecrets.org/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/our-new-wiki/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/

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[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Ignorance, has such a fundamental difficulty, with the most basic of rationale. When protocol, has replaced common sense, those dependent upon protocol, are unarmed and defeated, when it is circumvented or removed. Thx.

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[-] -2 points by NYGUARD (-6) 12 years ago

The beatings will continue until the Occupy Movement starts hitting back!

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[-] 3 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I don't see Occupy actually doing that. I see it staying the Non-violent Course. It is working very well. The thugs are confused and don't know very many words or ideas. It must be very difficult to be stupid, armed, confused and angry, with nowhere to release all that rage. Amusing? Yes.

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[-] 0 points by NYGUARD (-6) 12 years ago

Apparently they are releasing it along side the heads and in the eyes of non-violent protesters.

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[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I wonder if it feels all that good, when your face is permanently splattered across the world, as some douche who deserves scorn, ridicule and not another kind word. Let alone, the eternal fear of retribution upon ones self or a loved one, from some completely unpredictable member of society, with a vengeful hatred.

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