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Forum Post: The American People are Refusing to Wake Up

Posted 8 years ago on May 15, 2012, 8:20 p.m. EST by occupybrains (30)
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Today, Jamie Dimon is allowed to remain head of a bank that just lost billions due to corrupted decisions as usual.

MF Global just got done ripping off the people for tens of billions.

All the same people are in charge of the nation's finances, and the same players are all still running DC.

The people are not going to "wake up" and get it together. Soon, they will be left with next to nothing. The people are not going to wake up and start looking for solutions....

They are going to be looking for who to blame.



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[-] 6 points by jbgramps (159) 8 years ago

The term “people not waking up” is just another way of saying people aren’t paying as much attention or don’t care as much about something as you do. Similar to calling people “sheeple” because they don’t follow your views.

Every social effort uses the same terms. One extreme example is the uber racist web site Stormfront. They use the very same terms to describe people who don’t subscribe to their philosophy. They say the Sheeple will eventually wake up to their point of view.

My point is saying people are not awake and are sheeple accomplishes nothing. People are awake and “people”, not sheeple. You just need to attempt ways to bring them to your way of thinking.

[-] 1 points by Shutoffthelights (-13) 8 years ago

Or that they simply disagree, something else that's unimaginable to many on these threads.

[-] -1 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

Such as? If unemployment doubling, multiple wars and a blatant devaluing of our money isnt working......

What do you propose?

[-] 4 points by jbgramps (159) 8 years ago

Oh, my friend, that’s a open ended question.

I strongly believe no one, not the politicians, Tea Party or OWS will be able to stop the inevitable collapse of the American economy. It’s past the point of political solutions. The American public is so divided on everything that nothing gets done. The gut wrenching hate the liberals and conservatives have for each other will not allow any reasonable discussion.

Americans are generally too comfortable in their lives and will not do anything that could jeopardize their serenity. So what I think will happen is that the banks and government will fail and cause a depression unlike the US has ever seen.

I believe in the SHTF idea. Small businesses failing by the thousands, 25%+ unemployment, rule of law lost in a lot of places, very little social services, etc … Multi-generational and extended families living under one roof out of necessity, and so on.

I think the romantic idea a lot of OWS folks have of tearing down the government and financial institutions are very naive. In spite of what they’d like to think, we won’t all join hands and sing Kumbaya. It’ll be more like bread lines and protecting your family with a gun. At that point the masses will support whoever provides jobs and safety.

Anyway, that’s my two cents on how things WILL happen.

[-] 2 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 8 years ago

so you are awake but you dont intend to try to do anything to prevent that scenario. getting the people to the point that they will support who ever , just for security is the plan of the 1%. those people will not protest, will not cause trouble, will crawl around doing the bidding of the power elites, to the point of shooting thier own mothers. that is what ows is trying to prevent. we dont want that of society. thats why it important that people act now to influence things ,, not just sit there waiting.

[-] 1 points by jbgramps (159) 8 years ago

OK, for the record, I’m not trying to troll or bait you; even though it may sound like it to those who disagree with my view. Also, this is way outside the thread topic and I’m not trying to hijack the thread, just responding to a post.

I am doing something, just not you think I should be doing. As I said I believe the US economy will fail and result in a depression. I am prepping for what I think will be a disaster; much like you prep for a hurricane. I have guns and ammo, some food stored, a bug out plan if needed, medical supplies, etc.. I’m just trying to get ready.

There are a couple of goofy survivalist TV shows which that show the more fanatical doomsday belivers. I’m not quite as pessimistic as those folks, but still want have some plans for when it does happen.

I don’t think I’m paranoid. One man’s paranoia is another’s reasonable precautions. I could be wrong about the whole thing, and OWS will save the world (read light hearted sarcasm). But it doesn’t appear things will get fixed soon enough to prevent the inevitable.

As it pertains to this thread, the sheeple need to wake up and see that I’m right (smiling emocon).

[-] 1 points by Normalperson1 (119) from Indianapolis, IN 8 years ago

Sadly I agree with you. We are at a crossroad in America and in the world. There are way to many that think that they are owed things because they live. There is also massive corruption every where. America will fall simply because we do not know how to say NO. We just want more and care not where it comes from if it comes to use for FREE.

[-] -3 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

I see a lot of the same things happening. Is this DKAtoday guy a troll on this site, he keeps trolling me.

[-] 3 points by jbgramps (159) 8 years ago

Nope, don't like the guy. I'm not a troll. I just a old guy who posts what he thinks. I don't intentially insult or bait anyone. just say what I believe. Glad you gave the chance to explain that.

[-] -2 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

I see most americans not wanting to debate anything political. Looking at most political forums, I cannot blame them.

[-] 3 points by jbgramps (159) 8 years ago

I know what you mean. I’ve stopped visiting political sites. They just make me angry. Everyone is trying to sell you their version of BS; and in the end it probably won’t matter anyway.

There are a couple of goofy survivalist TV shows that show people being fanatical on planning for SHTF. I’d like to believe it won’t get that bad. But I think there is merit to their thinking.

I don’t give much credence to OWS either, but at least they seem to care more about real issues than most. That’s about the only reason I visit this forum.


[-] 1 points by ronniepaul2012 (214) 8 years ago

What do YOU propose, aside from slinging insults. So easy to criticize. So difficult to offer constructive alternatives.

[-] -1 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

Same thing I always do- Erase the tax/trade/foreign/monetary policies and start over. It's a very simple solution, and not too hard to figure out.

Its just getting enough people elected who are serious about change, thats the hard part.

[-] 0 points by JackHall (413) 8 years ago

The 9 11 Truth organizations have momentum. They have confronted government tampering with the laws of physics and can bring science to the table. Some of the key proponents of 9 11 Truth have lost their jobs by firing or forced early retirement over publishing the Truth about 9 11.

By popular demand for the truth the goals are to have real investigations into the WTC buildings collapse and the attack on the Pentagon that are independent of the government. Then find out who planted demolition charges in the 3 WTC buildings,and the Pentagon who gave them access to the buildings and why.

9 11 is the reason for the War on Terror, Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the deaths of and injuries to thousands, the militarization of our country, and inflated defense spending.

The investigation will expose corruption in government at the federal, state and local level. (How can government administrators and officials throughout New York State deny or not recognize controlled demolitions collapsed the Twin Towers and building 7 on 9/11/2001 for over a decade???)


[-] 2 points by MsStacy (1035) 8 years ago

The people are awake, it's just that a majority are somewhat content. They see some of the problems pointed to in this forum as self inflicted or as not truly effecting them.

The view that Occupy seems to have of the world is a version of 1984 with corporations in charge. You've got the wrong book, it's Huxley's Brave New World. The majority are content, as long as they are kept that way you won't get change.

[-] 1 points by JackHall (413) 8 years ago

Only some of people are asleep. Many are on drugs. Many are faking being asleep, are in denial but just haven't opened their eyes. Some don't believe what they are seeing.



Obama will pledge to do more for the ordinary citizen, while Romney will pledge to do less. What will America do if Wall St loses? They have no institutions or infrastructure to replace it. Obama needs 4 more years to end the war in Afghanistan, defend or reconfigure national health insurance, and create jobs.

Does Romney expect the average American to open a franchise without government help as the way to create jobs and solve unemployment rates above 8%; any franchise: green energy, gas stations, 7-11s, pizza parlors, hamburger stands, newspaper stands, internet marketing, etc.? Cut taxes, shrink government, deregulate businesses are also what Romney has promised. And what does Romney offer the 99%?






[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5909) 8 years ago

Take a look at the quotes I have at http://occupywallst.org/forum/free-democracy-amendment/. The problem with people is worldwide and as old as civilization.


[-] 1 points by vats (107) 8 years ago

and they plan to increase H1 B visa and bring more people from out side, americans will lose jobs

[-] 1 points by niphtrique (323) from Sneek, FR 8 years ago

Most people are not stupid. They are afraid for change and they have good reasons for that. They want a better alternative and see it work before they will accept it.

[-] -1 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

When they want to see it work, before making the big risk of hiring a different company than the two we have been for over 100+ years, it shows how much they are refusing.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

Wall Street won big in the primaries in my state tonight.

Every person running for congress to win the nominee spot for their party supported the deregulation from the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Republican JOBS Act.

BOOO to ignorant people.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 8 years ago

No, media is refusing to share the reasons for waking up.

Freedom of speech is abridged. This is what it looks like.

An Article V convention is the solution but those who are awake need to stop being misled into paying attention to the endless problems the cognitive infiltration pretends are most important.

[-] 1 points by SteveKJR1 (8) 8 years ago

When you have share holders saying the president should stay along with giving him a hugh bonus what does that tell you.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 8 years ago

Kinda like boiling a frog, eh?

[-] 0 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

ya, with gasoline

[-] 0 points by occuman (-21) 8 years ago

"corrupt decisions" where did you get that information? What could you possibly know about what happened? explain it to me. what actually happened that can be labeled as corrupt/

[-] 0 points by occupybrains (30) 8 years ago

I can tell its JP Morgan and anyone with a shred of money and brains knows they are doing corrupted shit on a nonstop basis.

If you are expecting me to go into an in depth analysis of what JP Morgan has done that makes them untrustworthy, then you need to go hit the books...

[-] 0 points by occuman (-21) 8 years ago

no in depth analysis - just back up your claim with evidence.

[-] 0 points by Umong (0) 8 years ago

meanwhile the police spend their time do pursue these types of VERY serious crimes !! If only he had been a friend of Obama !



[-] 0 points by Odin (583) 8 years ago

People have been lulled into a coma-like state, and have lost thier sense of outrage.


[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

It can also be attributed to fear of rocking the boat.

They may feel - We are doing OK - I mean my family is getting along alright. What if I do something and put my job in jeopardy?

They do not necessarily want to acknowledge the danger hanging over their head. They may well be praying for someone else to make it go away.

Security - even false - is a powerful thing.

[-] 0 points by Odin (583) 8 years ago

Yeah, i guess that could be true too. whatever it is, it's frustrating. Good Night

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Good Night.

[-] -3 points by NiggerProblem (-1) 8 years ago

It's because AmeriKwans have been jewified and niggerized

[-] 1 points by Normalperson1 (119) from Indianapolis, IN 8 years ago

Sniff, Sniff............... I smell a Troll or just a stupid one from the KKK. But then i think the KKK are trolls.