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Forum Post: The 99% funded the Walker campaign…

Posted 6 years ago on June 6, 2012, 2:24 p.m. EST by AlternativeSynergy (224)
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Because every time we buy something a percentage of the profits go to the corporate-supported Super PACs. Is there a way we could opt out of these mandatory donations?



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[-] 2 points by lancealotlink (147) 6 years ago

Why are polls so accurate ? I think Gallup called this one a few days ago and then last night in trade at Walker at 93%. There's just something screwy about this whole thing. Does Wisconsin use electronic voting machines?

I bet if we had hand counted ballots opened to the public eye. Walker loses.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

Doesn't it seem strange that 37% of card carrying union members were suppose to have voted for Walker? I don't trust electronic voting machines ever sense I heard of NEGATIVE votes being counted in other auctions. How can you have a negative vote?

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[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

If that's true we're really in a world of shit

[-] 1 points by JOELEWHITE1 (14) 6 years ago

You can blame big money, but the republicans in Wisconsin blocked the recall.Why? I think they are motivated by the (Blue Nose Syndrome): They don't like the idea of public sector employees making too much money---

[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

The point I was trying to make in the OP is that when corporations fund campaigns they are using money we gave them when we bought stuff from them. The unfairness of a partially unionized workforce is a different idea.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 6 years ago

94% of the people who raise the most money win. Why? Because the people are too slow to catch on.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Short answer?

No, you can't.

[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

But can't we smoke them out somehow and scare them into not donating? I'm trying to think of some solutions here.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

There isn't one. It all ties back to WallStreet.

I've long considered it a kind of hidden tax. I still believe that.

It all comes down to getting the hidden money out of the political system.

All of it.

[-] 2 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

But I think there is. Don't you think there is some kind of way we can threaten to boycott any company if it and it's owners donate to political campaigns of any kind?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Broaden your view. It goes far beyond simple, or even covert donations.

It includes entire marketing, PR, corporations and various think tanks...Even to entities like ALEC.

We the people, pay for all if it. Every single dime.

[-] 2 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

Exactly. That was the point of the OP

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

The simple cure?

1.) Get the money out of politics.

2.) Rethink and then rewrite every single corporate charter ever granted, with the full understanding that, We the People granted said charter.

Such charters, it must be understood, are a privilege granted, not a right.

Why grant a charter that provides no benefit, to We the People?

[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

Agree with cure #1, #2 seems unworkable, too many corporations

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Don't be so negative on 2.

If it needs to be done. It can be done.

We the People also grant the privilege of a drivers license.

A pilots license. a fishing license.

A charter isn't really much different. It's a license to operate.

It's a privilege, not a right.

[-] -3 points by Freemantake (-21) 6 years ago

Gotta love that Gov Walker, he really stuck it to shit for brains Trumka and the rest of the union trash

[-] 1 points by SingleVoice (158) 6 years ago

Don't buy anything.

[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

Or only buy from companies that are owned by people that refuse to make political donations (I don't care if they give to the left or right wing, either way it is corruption).

[-] 3 points by SingleVoice (158) 6 years ago

It's best if you buy from mom and pop stores because they are just trying to make a living and support their families. Plus the money stays in the local communities.

[-] 2 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

But the mom and pops can't buy in volume enough to offer the lowest prices. How about if we start the 99% store and compete with Wal-Mart?

[-] 2 points by SingleVoice (158) 6 years ago

You either support the mom & pops or support the corps. It's your choice. What they do with their profits is up to them. This is a free country for now. You either make a choice for principle or a choice for money.

[-] 2 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

Yeah but people aren't going to think like that, they are going to buy things at the lowest prices. That's why they never listen to the "buy in america" advice as well.

[-] 2 points by SingleVoice (158) 6 years ago

People in general, maybe...but believe it or not, there are many people who believe that principle trumps money. There are fewer and fewer every generation because principle seemed to get lost somehow along the way.

If people are going to protest corporations but then continue to buy and use their products, who are the hypocrites?

[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 6 years ago

It's not so much people are hypocrites they are simply buying the product they want at the cheapest price. No matter how strong your politics, the lure of getting something cheaper will always be stronger.

[-] 1 points by SingleVoice (158) 6 years ago

Then what's the point of protesting corporations and still buying their products. They're not acting on principle. It's an excuse and it does make them a hypocrite if they're protesting against corporate money but still buying their products. Only by principle can any worthwhile change happen. If not, it must not be that worthwhile a fight. Corporations will never get the message if no one hits their bottom line. Change can only really be affected by people who are willing to work together and stand on principle.

We're all having a hard time. Find the bargains elsewhere or stop protesting corporations.

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 6 years ago

With wages as low as they have been, the unemployment and underemployment rate high, cost of fuel and foods high, its understandable for people to look for bargains, especially when raising a family and living paycheck to paycheck.

I would not be so harsh.