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Forum Post: The 5th Estate - a short dialog.

Posted 10 years ago on Oct. 17, 2013, 3:41 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN
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[-] 1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 years ago

"What are your problems with the film?"

"Where would I even begin"...

Perhaps there should be a boycott of this film? I suppose at the very least, people will see it or hear about it and then go and hit up the web afterwards. Of course, Google and Microsoft have probably buried the good stuff so far down its a futile effort at this point.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I really do not want to see someone butcher Assange.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

I really do not want to see someone butcher Assange.

This is what I am afraid the purpose of the movie is likely to be.

Like I feel the movie about the Somali pirate hijacking of that ship is likely aimed to fire support for more military actions in Africa.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

It very well could be.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Hollywood has always been in the propaganda business for Government.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Yes, it has. That's the problem that I have with it.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago
[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

James Cagney. Yep. Tho' if ever there was a viable pick me for propaganda use cat, it was George Cohan.

Yanno, there sure was a hell of a lot of that. Casablanca was also propaganda.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Pretty much every movie ever produced and now add in TV programs are propaganda to achieve certain results. Even Cowboys in black hats or white hats. Or Cagney shoving a grapefruit into a woman's face.

Unfortunately very few movies or shows have ever been done to promote a healthy society in a healthy world. Most of "those" being kept out of mainstream viewing.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I agree up to a point. Before Hollywood moved to California, it was in NYC. The move was an attempt to prevent government from dictating morals but.......by self censorship. To be fair, it seems to be more about instituting morals for the lower classes because lord knows that you could never be white enough. Even with the propaganda in certain movies there was still enough out there for the cinema to showcase talent. There is a huge difference between pre Hays Code and after it was fully implemented. It hasn't been until the last 25 years, and definitely the last 10, that it is overwhelmingly and undeniably propaganda.

Too, I definitely agree with the smaller art of black hat/white hat cowboy propaganda or the role of other by gender, sexual orientation, nationality or race.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

And today we have positive propaganda For the Not Your Police Department = Blue Bloods

And for HS and NSA and CIA and FBI we have = NCIS, NCIS Los Angeles

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Oh, crap. I just thought of something creepy. Have you seen this show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_%28TV_series%29

That right there fits it to a T. Have fun with all that.

'Night.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Big Brother invasion of Privacy - propaganda as to why it is a good thing to collect every least little bite of information on everyone.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Exactly. It will all benefit you. It is actually a semi decent show if you can forget that someone's social security number is the alert. I realize that life pretty much boils down to just how paranoid are you today?! I just happen to be paranoid every time that show comes on.

I live in a world where a guy makes a threat on twitter to Cruz and his name is broadcast across the US. A guy pushes a 170,000 rock down, receives hundreds of death threats, and nothing?

Cannot do the right thing with the fucking tools that ya got.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

And there you are - the tools are not necessarily bad - it is how the tools are used and who is using them. Til humanity as a whole grows quite a bit in maturity - emotionally - then the only collection of information for security reasons should stay out in public looking for the assaults the cases of road rage the corner drug sales the smuggling of items through import and export operations and watching the borders and such. No privacy invasion allowed in our homes or on our phones or on our computers.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Ya. No team of four or five super duper folks are rushing in now to protect the three guys.

Humanity has had thousands of years to develop maturity. It isn't coming because there is always going to be a couple of big ass doody heads.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

How often do you watch those?

How often do you watch reality shows?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21330) 2 minutes ago

Ya. No team of four or five super duper folks are rushing in now to protect the three guys.

Humanity has had thousands of years to develop maturity. It isn't coming because there is always going to be a couple of big ass doody heads.

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That's the whole point of our current protests = remove the doody heads from positions of power in government & remove their money from influencing/buying government etc. OH Almost Forgot to add - re-channel their money to proper use in/for society/country by TAXING IT PROPERLY.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

It sure feels like a scene out of the Walking Dead. The doody heads just keep coming.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

No Shit - where the fuck do all of these brain dead monsters come from? The legal sanitariums have been closed so that is why some of them may have been set loose on society - BUT - the really nasty ones - Well Hell - They Have Got to be made in a Frankenstein's lab - don't ya think? Sideline of monsatan or helliburton?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

I never watch the so called reality shows. The cops and robbers shows? All the time - generally thinking sarcastic thoughts about the intent of the programs and the reality they have nothing to do with.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

We should do a Mystery Theater 4500.

It would be fun.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

It would be fun - My brothers and I used to do that sort of thing when we were growing up at home - funny as it at times got the ol parents thinking along different lines as to programming and commercials.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

We could do it. This is the perfect time of the year, too.

It is inevitable that the dingdongs will find it necessary to check to see if the body is still in the casket, in the grave yard, and in the dark. After remarking that the vampire is out and about from dusk to dawn and arming themselves with a shovel..............

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21330) 2 minutes ago

We could do it. This is the perfect time of the year, too.

It is inevitable that the dingdongs will find it necessary to check to see if the body is still in the casket, in the grave yard, and in the dark. After remarking that the vampire is out and about from dusk to dawn and arming themselves with a shovel..............

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" We could do it. "

I kinda think we already do - when we critique TPTB BS plans/aims as forwarded by their lackeys. Though I suppose it being October and all - that we could put a Halloween flair to the critiques - GOD knows they are a bunch of real Monsters.