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Forum Post: The 1% are trying to shut down the internet again

Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 5:36 p.m. EST by aquainted (268)
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They want to carve up the internet and serve it to their friends like ATT, Mediacom and Comcast. Call your senator and bitch like hell. Occupy their phones!

http://act2.freepress.net/call/rod_call_champs/?akid=3007.9353128.TwtAVp&rd=1&t=2

I tried calling and they hung up on me.

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[-] 1 points by efschumacher (74) from Gaithersburg, MD 2 years ago

You need to read the introduction to the original FCC Rule (FCC 10-201, December 21, 2010) before fulminating about the distilled froth. It's here: http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1223/FCC-10-201A1.pdf. The full thing is 194 pages, but the 10 page Intro should do.

It is not about "shutting down the Internet". It is about rolling back Net Neutrality: in summary, Net Neutrality means the common carriers (Comcast, Verizon, ...) are not allowed to block or censor applications that run over their network infrastructure to reinforce some monopoly application of their own. Applications they would love to block include Skype, Vonage, Google Talk, Instant Messaging, since these give you a choice beyond their own pay-per-call services.

So it isn't "shutting down the Internet". It is simply making you pay twice for packet transport - or make you pay a premium for their applications while at the same time denying you an alternative. The usual rent-seeking monopoly activity in other words.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

except none are actually doing that

[-] 0 points by aquainted (268) 2 years ago

Ah, thanks

[-] 1 points by efschumacher (74) from Gaithersburg, MD 2 years ago

The chance of the republican minority in the Senate getting this 'censure' bill passed is slim anyway, and the chance of the President overturning this rule promulgated by one of his Agencies is zero.

But the prevention of any such slimy activity post-November 2012 is extremely important.

[-] 1 points by Bookworm (42) 2 years ago

Jesus I hope the governments level of censorship never reaches the level of OWS.

[-] 1 points by AlexQld (10) from Darling Heights, QLD 2 years ago

Have a look at how Australia intends to censor the internet. When many ISPs declined †o participate Australia created a monopoly government owner wholesaler. The US appears hell bent on creating the same thing as an oligopoly.

[-] 1 points by AlexQld (10) from Darling Heights, QLD 2 years ago

Write a letter. Send it registered mail. Make them (well their staff) sign for it. Three way win. Supports the Postal Service. Provides gainful employment for staff. Fits their 19th century mindset.

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 2 years ago

Meh, it doesn't matter. We have the tools right now to make our own internet. Meshbox + Wifi dishes = internet.

[-] 0 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

I haven't havd a problem

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[-] 0 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

is this a solution in search of a problem? my internet seems to be working pretty well thanks.

[-] 0 points by aquainted (268) 2 years ago

sure, for now.... Thanks to others fighting for internet freedom

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

more like, thanks to me switching ISPs if they ever really screwed me.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

You don't understand.

[-] 0 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

you don't understand that there's not really a problem. or that you could even keep an ISP and get around a block if there was one, because that's one of the magical powers of teh intarwebs and technology.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

Are u being purposely dense or are you a fool? There's nothing the powers that be would rather do than put the genie of the internet back in the bottle. That can't be allowed.

[-] 0 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

no, i just have a degree in computer science and understand how the internet, innovation and programmers work. do you? how are they going to put the genie back in the bottle hmm? the only time i've ever seen the internet shut down was when the government did it.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

I think you misunderstand. #1. They're trying to censor the internet. That's a problem. And #2. If you think the internet can't be shut down, make sure you're online Wednesday at 1:00 CST. You'll probably change your mind.

[-] 1 points by Skoalman (56) 2 years ago

It can easily be done. China and other countries do it all the time. While I'm sure some of the Chinese have figured out ways around this, most of the population hasnt.

[-] 0 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

who is trying to censor the internet? there's no way to truly censor everything, you can always find a way to get to something. i'm not saying the internet can't be shut down, i'm saying the government has enough power over it already, i'm not interested in giving them any more. also i think you are mistaken they are even shutting it down wednesday as a test.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by Tommiethenoncommie (211) 2 years ago

What's ever on the internet stays on the internet. It's bound to be on someone's server. And we could block them just as easily too.

[-] 0 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

OK now you're going to tell me how you live in a "free" f*cking "country"...You're as free as they want you to be and they depend on your BS religion and tradition to keep you exactly where you are ..Jerking off to porn, that you should feel guilty about, that they say is evil, while not giving a fuck about the reality of what's really going on.

Me? I've learned to do both..I'm ambidextrous....

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

copyright bill is not net neutrality. it would work as well as other anti-piracy techniques i imagine. i'm going to bed

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

i have a real problem in that my tummy wants food and there is none in front of me. you have this fake problem about giving the government more power, to protect me from the internet service providers blocking me from going somewhere or something. but 4chan still works on every service provider, and i don't even care to go there. what's the problem i should be concerned about over a hamburger again?

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

The government works for MPAA and the service providers. Get used to being outside and enjoying the great outdoors..The government shutting down the internet might actually be a positive thing ..for the movement.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

i have real problems to worry about rather than the made up ones. what is this doing for me again?

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

Your real problems aren't exactly real....They've been made up also...Shame to say..I mean you could die from your so called "problem" but that doesn't make it anymore a product of a sick society trying to keep you in control.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

Dude...Here's a number...1001/1010/1011/0001...You tell me how to not block this or the DNS associated with it...are you fucking stupid?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Who you calling stupid, nick? Nobody's talking about blocking anything. Check my two links above, then make your own decision about what it means.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

I'm with you..Buddy..I'm on piratebay 24/7 for fucks sake.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

what is so special about that ip? if you tried to block anywhere people wanted to get to, they would find ways to get around it. here are 9 ways to get around the great firewall of china:

http://www.randomwire.com/how-to-bypass-the-great-firewall-of-china

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

Nothing is important about any IP...But when the shit gets out of control you'll see your fucking government block everything that isn't strickly commercial.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

but the bill is about corporations blocking things. and i just did a quick google and gave you 9 ways to circumvent a government block. so... i hope you can undertand... how i'm not getting excited... who's fucking stupid again?

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

Look..you or I may be able to circumvent whateva. But this Bill is to prevent people from accessing data that was once available..Limiting their choices...AKA Fuck you, pay me, a million times.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

like what? who is doing that? all i hear is about theoretical problems that someone might do. i don't care. if there is a real problem then maybe the government should fix it. if there is a fake one, well, they can sit on their hands. they've already "fixed" too many problems for me.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

I know you or I won't care too much..it's the idea..More government trying to prevent shit from happening so someone else can profit..even more.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

The government wants to fix it by: 1. preventing the sharing of information (sharing files...etc) 2. blacklist websites.

There's lots more to it....Let's just say your internet experience will be allot more controlled.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 2 years ago

BTW. I downloaded "Rollerball" from the PB..it's a fucking old movie ..But I'm certain some asshole wants to still get paid for that piece of shit!

[-] -2 points by raines (699) 2 years ago

0bama is going to shut down the internet.