Forum Post: Teddy Roosevelt would be protesting with occupy
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 22, 2011, 9:06 p.m. EST by Doc4the99
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We need to bring back glass steagle. That is a fact.
Hi Doc4, Agree.
I second you. But that's half of the narrative: END THE FED, END FRACTIONAL RESERVE Lending.
Teddy don't protest he just kicks ass. He don't have to protest he just look at you and you do what he says.
Isn't that the truth. He wouldn't have tolerated what has gone on in America for the last 30 years. Neither would he be supporting the people in OWS protesting in the park, doing drugs and living like animals. He was not an enabler. Too bad Teddy wasn't around when FDR was pushing his New Deal, he would have stopped that nonsense also.
You mock peoples suffering. You are morally bankrupt. I hope your 401k isnt in stocks because the billionaires are at it again. Karma is a cruel mistress. Hope you dont lose your job in the next several months and have to start protesting in the park and slide back into alcoholism with all the stoned hippis who are too lazy to get a job. Fool. You are a victim of your own ignorance. Vets are getting beaten by cops in oakland while you mock the protestors. Joke is on you.
hey doc I live in Brooklyn I have spoke with protesters..ready Three of them had the nerve to say 99% means/stands for that people feel the 99 weeks of extended unemployment given by the federal govt should have been more and extended..THIS IS FOR REAL and I am not a reporter..I know BUNCH of homeless people there ONLY for the free food and cigarettes and company cause they fit in and nobody is "judging" them from their looks,...not many of them even know what this was all started over (egtrra and jgtrra),some say it was started by students cause student loans should not have to be paid back,they are there because there are no jobs(which I know there are loads of them)..yes this comes STRAIGHT FROM THEIR mouths down there.
I get it, things seem to be going in weird directions
I dont mock people suffering lots of those people in the park are rich kids for one. I do lots of drug and alcohol counseling and help the homeless and inner city youth. You have no idea what i do. And one veteran getting beaten after getting in the officers face and cussing him is not 'vets getting beat down'. The joke are the protesters who have no unified message that are being pawns of people with an agenda, being hurt or injured and they don't even know why.
You are dead wrong. I see combat vets everday who cant find jobs. You tell yourself what you do because you are nervous and anxious about the potential reality. Look around america is shuttered their are no factories and china holds 30 percentages of our debt. You are a like poor coutier before the french revoultion. The FDIC is on the hook for 75 trillion in bac toxic assests likely many of which are euro debt. Stand by and amuse yourself by watching the next economic collapse. A few greedy billionaires make a profit or they dont and it will come out if your pocket. Enjoy. Keep mocking the dirty hippi rich kids who are playing with poop in the park. Get educated.
I am one of those manufacturers who shut down my factory pal. I have employed over 650 people over the last 20 years, but im not doing it anymore. I'm saving the rest of my hard earned money until this time is over with, and then i will reconsider hiring people again. And you said vets were getting beat down, now you are changing it to can't find jobs. What you don't know is i support the veterans 100%. The way we treat vets in America is horrible. And i know all about the $150 trillion the FDIC is on the hook for with BoA and JPMorgan. I am very educated. You get pissed because i am not a follower. I am a leader. Always have been, and i am not an enabler or a hand holder or an apologist. This OWS movement is being run very poorly because the people running it have a completely different agenda than they say they do, and the supporters are mainly uneducated and definitely inexperienced at setting a plan and implementing it.
Ok keep going. I like your last post.
Proresting is the only thing. Look at what happened in congress what a joke. People bring it to the stteets when they feel they have no outlet. This has been ongoing for 2 months. Heres how I see your post, yout missing the big picture. Sorry the ows protest drunk hippis cant call fox news for better spin. What is your alternative. This movement is interesting because it is a reaction to disenfranchisement. When you chim in about drug use to me it takes away from the heart of the issue. Seems like your on the same page. But ok blast the protest in the parks. What do you recommend. Go home or just do nothing. I have never seen anything like this in the US. People are involved the old channels to me have failed or people have been ignorrd. If they had jobs like in the 60s people would go back to work. The resilt here is social unrest. I am a combat vetern and army officer. And I refuse to see cops controlled by billionaires beating civilians who are trearting them like enemy combatants. The force they use is not appropriate. They do so at the green light of mayors who are getting the advice from feds. From a gov. Who is controlled by billionaires. What are you thoughts. You got my attention sir.
As for the police force being used. You do realize that it is the marxists radicals behind OWS that wants that exact reaction. They want the police to be violent to say 'look at the police violence". From everything i have seen in all the acts of violence the police were either provoked or they gave fair warning and were ignored. You don't want to get maced or beat up? don't get close to them, and when they say move, you move. These young kids in this movement are pawns to the radicals who are reading right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Are you aware that the OWS leadership has been consulting with the Serbian Revolutionaries who have advised 37 different countries all in revolt including Egypt. 5 successes so far for the Serbian Advisors. They are world renowned, and OWS has been using them. That is where the FIST logo came from. As an army officer are you happy that the organizers of the OWS are hell bent on bringing down our Republic and collapsing our economy?
There will be always be anarchists ... they dont own the movement. I agree with you in what your saying. Bu what we are seeing isnt because of anarchy. I think its quite different. Theirs staright up drug dealing gang bang ers in the military. We get by. The vast majority are good. But be careful about whose who and whats what. Could a few mislead anarchists ruin ows. Yeah. Could a dozen billionaires ruin this democracy sure. There always a risk. Also think communism during the 50s were their communists trying to actually infiltrate. Yes. Just lets not go on a witch hunt just yet. I also think the spin of anarchy via the corporate lobby is far greater a threat then the reality.
They are both just as dangerous. I am a planner. I like to bust up the plans of powerful people or those with bad intentions. I have had several successes in my life, because i don't screw around. I lay it on the line with people, i get committed, i work hard, and i make sure the plan is implemented. On top of it i always get as much information about the other guy as possible. Right now i am fighting my county from screwing over the citizens in a certain area with a new scheme. I have been warning the community for years now, and they didn't listen but 1 time, now its getting too late and they are in a panic. People come to my door, call me, whatever asking me to help them stop the county. If i can dedicate the time well break the county's corrupt plans when i show up with 2000 people and overflow the council chambers. Then everyone will march up there and threaten to recall them if they vote for their proposed measure. It works everytime. Why OWS is misdirected. They are mad at the wrong people.
They need your guidance clearly. Carry on.
I do what i can brother. Thank you for your service. I have several vets in my family so your sacrifice is always greatly appreciated.
Thank u. Keep doing what u are doing sir
I have posted numerous times about several things to do and protesting is not one of them. The first is to draft campaign reform negating the CU ruling, and getting all of these protestors to gather signatures to put on the ballot as a constitutional amendment in all 50 states for the coming election. The second is to gather professionals, business owners, and anyone who has lost significant assets whether in the market or in property in the last three years, and sue the Fed, the Treasury, the big bankers, and our elected officials for fraud and negligence. I mean when someone screws you out of money, don't you sue them? Those are defined plans that the country could get behind with a definite action plan. Hows that?
Thats good. It needs to be done. Basically the protests have peoples attention. There does need to be another step as I fear ows could be waying on the nerves of those who dont want to be bothered. I saw a main stream media article trending that said something like un occupy movement and it consisted of like 5 people compared to several hundred occupy ers it got strong attention. The media is chomping at the bit for bad pr. But i thnk if the protests stop we loose our power as the threat of socialthe unrest is gone. That list of demands might then go right in the trash.
They need to push aside the marxist/anarchist leaders, and influential people, if they really want to succeed, and focus on one issue about ending corruption in politics and they can get the whole country behind them. Thats what i care about. I am not into destroying capitalism, or seeing an economic collapse that would cause massive starvation and violence. You and i would have to defend our families from gangs of starving violent people. i really don't want to have to do that. That is the dream of these people who want to crush our republic, like Van Jones, Angela Davis and other long time communist/marxists. I feel sorry for the youth who are being used as pawns in this game. They need to be directed in healthy participation in our political system and i can't think of a better way to do it than to push forward with a popular reform of how our government operates. That is America.
Totally. Yeah. Fear or the threat their of anarchy is a real factor for ruining this. I wouldnt be surprised if spin doctors via lobbyist dont go in that direction to ows this off. Maybe i am paranoid. Its tricky because to me its about making america better. I concur with your post above. My apologies for my histrionics. But its hard for me to see my civil liberaties dismantled. When a soldier with a missing limb who has to say i did this or this happened because i was defending freedom (agree or disagree) i kno it breaks their heart to see cops beating civilians.
But i concur overall with what u are getting at. But we need to maintain attention. Did u catch that in LA the city got so sick of the city hall campers they gave them a building.
Yeh and i think that's just great. Formalize them. It takes the radical aspect out of their movement somewhat and gives them some legitimacy where they might actually have a dialogue instead of shutting it out. Another area where the OWS planners are losing supporters. They will march into an area where someone is speaking and shout them down then leave. Very non constructive, but this is the marxist playbook. I am glad we came to a meeting of the minds. Lots of people here think i am an evil person because i don't support the protestors, and they don't take a chance to listen. Honestly i feel for them, i just see them being made into pawns by some people with a definite anti american agenda.
But your warning is smart
Glad we agree. There are some other like minded people on these boards who support the original intent of OWS but not the way it is being implemented or directed. My goal is to unveil the marxists and run them out of the movement. and focus these people onto a positive direction that is achievable. Ive also been working for a while to get the original Tea Partiers away from the GOP and to try to crush them once and for all. Would love to see three parties. The Dems the GOP and the Rational Party of everyone else who loves America and wants to do the right thing for everyone.
Rational party i love it
Yeah like shouting at Ron Lawl or disriputing obama to an audience who's booing the the 10 sneaky occupy ers makes ows look un legit. I would say however that history loves nostalgia and I think much of the protests in the 60s atpeople the start i repeat at the start were ignored or lauged at by the media.
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Sure i do. I actually do drug and alcohol counseling in my spare time. Imagine that. They get drugs by walking into the park with it. Posting videos about getting high all day while they sit around in the park. Reports of arrests for drug dealing. Reports of drug overdoses. Reports of rapes and other sexual assaults. Defecating in public or in the park. Don't try to play like everyone in the park is a frickin saint, you know that isn't true.
You should get off the crack dude because what does drug use have to do with Roosvelt???? You just like to pick at ipeople who cant defend themselves. If tou called me a drug dealer to my face I puld kick your ass because I don't do drugs. When u say something about people you dont know it's offensive. If you want to say a certain person did drugs after he was arrested then fine say he did drugs. But u make it sound like the columbia cartel is down there smoking crack.
Oh you are from dc that explains alot the whole city is full of drug heads??? Now I get it
No i didn't. The original poster said TR would be supporting OWS and i said he wouldn't because he would not identify with the people at OWS camping in the parks, particularly the drug use, and other issues. I did not say everyone was getting high, or committing crimes, but there are enough that he certainly would not supportive. I don't use drugs of any kind not even alcohol. And i doubt you could ever kick my ass so better calm down kid.
Fool go talk to the protestors you're reading the media spin. Get educated.
i have gone to 5 different ows locations. There were quite a few druggies in attendance at each of them, all wanting legalization of drugs. Shocker huh? There were also lots of older hippies who were clearly nuts and probably old druggies, and then lots of young people who had a gleam in their eye because they think they are doing something great, but when i talk to them, they have no idea what is going on, don't know their history, don't understand the Constitution or government. What am i to be impressed about?
Remember the Maine! Distrust official explanations!
Read your history books you morons. FDR was one of the worst presidents. That's why Obozo loves him so much and wants to be like him. Teddy wanted to be dictator of this country and almost succeeded. Obozo is following in his footsteps and you morons are too stupid to see it.
Pfft. Sort by aggregate ranking: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States#Scholar_survey_results
FDR is #2 of all time, #1 in the 20th century, based on 17 polls of presidential historians/scholars. Teddy, by the way, is #5.
TR, the Trust Buster - he definitely would understand OWS.
and crush it like an annoying fly. Remember the Maine!
Ummmm, Teddy wasn't Franklin.
Mebbe you should read up.
Who's Obozo? Never heard of him.
There are TWO DIFFERENT Roosevelts, or haven't you heard???