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Forum Post: Syriza's proposals for a new Greece

Posted 3 years ago on June 10, 2012, 5:50 p.m. EST by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV
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Syriza's plan for Greece really looks to transform the country into a worker-friendly nation; one the pursues peace and ecological responsibility.

Take a look: http://socialistworker.org/2012/06/06/what-syriza-stands-for



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[-] 5 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 3 years ago

Looks good. Too bad we can't do anything like that here.

[-] 3 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 3 years ago

Start by replacing the politicians.

[+] -4 points by delayedgrat (-157) 3 years ago

I was in Greece last year. Its utterly dysfunctional. None of what is being proposed will work. Its a complete joke of a country. Both Athens and Thessaloniki are covered in graffitti. Wild dogs roam the streets eating garbage and killing each other.

If OWS thinks that Greece is a good pace to emulate, no thankyou.

[-] 3 points by luparb (290) 3 years ago

dogs and graffiti won't stop an enabled workforce from resolving the problem.

The only thing that is preventing people from fixing society is the limitations imposed upon them by the capitalist system.

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 3 years ago

I feel bad for the Greeks, and Greece is a mess. It's easy to see who fucked up our country, but not being a Greek scholar, I'm not sure what to think about Greece (but when I hear stuff like their rate of taxation just to support their retirement system is something like 40%, it seems pretty obvious that they have some serious problems, which goes beyond corrupt bankers or government officials. although I'm sure that's a problem as well).

[-] -3 points by delayedgrat (-157) 3 years ago

Dot feel bad for them. Their entire culture is corrupt. No one pays taxes, they judge that only suckers pay taxes. Black market is rampant.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 3 years ago

And in the US of A, the corporate thieves don't pay taxes, and when they gamble away all their (our) money, they expect the government to bail them out.

Their entire culture might be just as corrupt as ours, but their debt is not measured in the trillions of dollars, and they haven't sold bonds to the whole world to ensure that they won't go down the gurgler, despite having a debt level higher than their GDP.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21711) 8 months ago

The Greeks put capitalism on notice. Bravo.

"Syriza wins Greek election as Samaras congratulates Tsipras"


[-] 2 points by SerfingUSA (451) 8 months ago

Very apropo. The birthplace of democracy, cultivating democracy's revival.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21711) 8 months ago

Right, and showing that Democracy does not equal Capitalism.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21711) 8 months ago

Good luck to Syriza today. This is your chance to end crippling austerity!


"Tsipras’s fierce anti-austerity, anti-bailout message has found an enthusiastic audience across a now visibly strung-out and worn-down country: since 2009, Greece’s GDP has plummeted by a quarter, its household income by more than a third, and joblessness has trebled, to 26%."

[-] 1 points by Revy89 (4) 8 months ago

This article makes an interesting point about Syriza's nationalism, drawing parallels to several points in left-wing history:


[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21711) 8 months ago

"Greece’s new prime minister wants Germany to pay for Nazi war crimes"


"A 2013 study carried out by the previous Greek government of defeated Prime Minister Antonis Samaras estimated that Germany owed Greece some $200 billion for damages incurred during the Nazi occupation, the cost of rebuilding destroyed infrastructure as well as loans Nazi authorities forced Greece to pay between 1942 and 1944."

Oh, the irony.

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 8 months ago

Making it worker friendly would require removing a shit ton of government that habor the corrupt and multinationals.

They are going to have their work cut out for them. Chances are they are now going to attempt to work with people, instead of simply going in with a bowling ball and crushing the entire thing and starting over.