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Forum Post: Syria: With the observers gone, the lie industry is back in full swing

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 5, 2012, 10:20 a.m. EST by GildasSapiens (266)
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"Now that Syria is again the only one in a position to provide another version of events, the lie industry set up for this operation is back in full gear. Once again the sole source recognized by the West and the Gulf is the self-proclaimed Syrian Observatory of Human Rights, based in London and led by the Muslim Brotherhood. No evidence is submitted; a few blurred photos, the juxtaposition of images showing demonstrations and explosions, and some anonymous testimonials will do: the "information" is instantly relayed, with no verification, by hundreds of media across the world.

While they are accused of defending cynical interests, the Russians and Chinese are essentially the last members of the Security Council to elevate the facts above communication strategies and international law above the lies."


The West's 1% want violent regime change, for Profit!



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[-] 3 points by bklynsboy (834) 6 years ago

The US and clients are bringing in Libyan mercenaries to fight in Syria. They the ones getting most of the casualties. This in order to weaken Iran.


[-] 2 points by Filozofx (3) 6 years ago

World dont need help from America , NATO, UN, UK, EU. Syria have different rights and traditions , they need to solve their problems alone.

  • Big corporations want to go in Syria becouse of fuel. And also in Iran- and UN and USA made excure for war "Nuclear bomb" like Iraq but the didnt find anything- So its clear why americans pay tax - for nothing, for army which serve big corporations...
[-] 2 points by timirjha (10) 6 years ago

Even if you proof your opinion by bringing hyperlinks you'll still be a conspirasy theorist. because people cannot accept indefinite point of view because it doesn't fit in their boxes. or, another word, they can't see this in their boxes: http://rt.com/news/syria-us-vote-russia-547/ Watch RT’s full interview with Nada Hashwi http://rt.com/news/syrian-opposition-warns-assad-145/

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

and there no live cams available to the the world view?

could there be?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 6 years ago

The purpose behind these conflicts is actually global depopulation. The elites see us and our protests movements as vermin which need to be eliminated.

Similarly, progress in the Asian countries cannot be tolerated as the western oligarchy's financial system collapses.

Solution - trigger a nuclear war between the US versus Russia and China, hide in your bunkers until its over, then reclaim what's left of the world.

[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 6 years ago

THe Russians and the Chinese are doing nothing other than looking out for their own interests. They have a long history (especially the Chinese) of insisting all human rights abuses within their own borders are nothing other that internal issues and demanding that the international community simply ignore them while continuing to do business as usual. They want no criticism, whether it be about Tiananmen Square or genocide in Tibet.

They are the LAST ones to be credited with "elevating" facts above communications.

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

And the US/NATO/Gulf Arabs aren't just looking out for their own interests?

US/NATO wants Syria thrown into the same chaos as Iraq was after the 2003 invasion to punish Syria for allying with Iran, & to serve the interests of Zionism, & they're shipping Libyan & other Arab jihadis into Syria as the so-called "Free Syrian Army". Where's the concern for Syrians' welfare & human rights, there?

US/NATO want no criticism of their genocidal wars in Afghanistan & Iraq, & their genocidal proxy wars in Pakistan, Somalia, Palestine, the Philippines, etc., demanding that the international community simply ignore them while continuing to do business as usual.

There's no moral high ground in the USA or Europe, either!

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 6 years ago

Straw man argument. I never claimed that the US had any moral high ground. You, on the other hand, claimed that China and Russian did. They don't. Syria is murdering its own people by the thousands, because those people want an end to dictatorship. Russia and China are defending the murderer, and helping him stay in power to prolong the brutality. They occupy no high ground whatsoever. Hating the US does not mean having to love China or Russia. Nobody's hands are clean. It's really that simple.

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

The final word "either" in my previous comment confirms that I recognize that Russia & China cannot, by definition, occupy the moral high ground.

But all they wanted was the UN draft resolution to include even-handed wording, & to call on Western-backed violent groups (who have probably murdered a significant proportion of those thousands you mentioned) to stop their violence as well as Syrian government forces. But the West & its cronies rejected that - obviously, then, the West wants violent revolution & civil war, not peace as it claims, & shares responsibility for the deaths.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 6 years ago

The West was right to reject it. It was an attempt to conflate issues, so Assad would get off scott free. If China and Russia wish to introduce a resolution about Western violence in the region, it should do so. But not scuttle a resolution that would put pressure on a mass murderer of his own people.

It's really simple simple: two wrongs don't make one right. And China, in particular, is outrageously hypocritical in its action here.

But then again, your double standards are showing, too. OWS, absolutely rightly, condemns the police for excessive use of pepper spray on protesters. It, rightly condemns the use of batons. But when the dictator of Syria murders protests by the thousands, using heavy weapons, snipers, machine gins, mortars and tanks, he gets a virtual pass, and that's OK because others are guilty of violence, too? Sorry, it doesn't wash.

Regime change in Syria is very, very, very long overdue. The mass murder it has repeatedly inflicted on its own people is legend. The West is not the one advocating violence in order for that regime change to occur. Assad is the one being violent in his efforts to quash any change.

Other issues are just that: OTHER issues.

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 6 years ago

Please look up the meaning of "genocide". Right now you don't know what it means.

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

I know exactly what genocide means, thank you, & I use it advisedly.

Just because a conflict hasn't been declared a genocide by the corrupt, imperialist US Congress & its cronies in the UN & client states, doesn't mean it isn't a genocide!

[-] 0 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 6 years ago

America cannot be the police for muslim countries. as you have seen... the killing and oppression does not dissipate just because you remove any certian leader.. it onlly escalates.. whom ever is in power then begins the killing themselves.... see. lybia.. and iraq... egypt. this is a way of life for these people.. they cannot comprehend a society with out slaughter.. no one should interfere. you do know.. after all this bloodshed.. america is in negotiations with the taliban there was nothing accomplished and no one was saved. get switzerland or germany or whatever to take up this fight and stop calling on america to fix the world.

[-] 2 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 6 years ago

It's not often said, but the Taliban was ready to hand Bin Laden over in 2001. All this misery, all this waste. For lies!

New offer on Bin Laden | World news | The Guardian www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/afghanistan.terrorism11Oct 17, 2001 – For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return ... Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over | World news ...

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5Oct 14, 2001 – 9.30pm update: Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt Second week of airstrikes starts * Taliban urges US to halt bombing.

[-] 1 points by timirjha (10) 6 years ago

to make GEO political observation more clearly i say that Syria is #1 Iran supporter against Israel expansion.

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

"this is a way of life for these people.. they cannot comprehend a society with out slaughter" - way to be a xenophobic racist, dude!!!

"stop calling on america to fix the world" - seriously, dude? Most of the world wants America to STOP "fixing" the world, before it "fixes" us all to Hell in a handbasket!

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 6 years ago

its the warmongers in america that want america to fix the world.. not the world. im sure your right about the world wanting america to stop as for xenophobic.. i dont think soo. im only going off what has happened in all these cases of killing off the king or leader of one of these countries.. those protesting like the idea of killing as long as it is the other side.. .

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

Revolutions often result in long periods of civil violence: e.g. the Glorious Revolution, the American Revolution, the French Revolution, the Mexican Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Chinese Revolution, the Spanish Revolution, etc.

None of those involved the "these people" you referred to (i.e. Arabs/Muslims), so to suggest Arabs &/or Muslims are inherently & uniquely inclined to civil violence IS xenophobic &/or racist.

[-] 0 points by BannedForTruth (233) from Christiana, TN 6 years ago

This is why we need to be interventionists.

[-] -1 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 6 years ago

I'm surprised you had faith in those so called "observers".

[-] 1 points by GildasSapiens (266) 6 years ago

Only in some of them - many of them were there to serve the US/Israeli/NATO/Saudi/Qatari "How to Smash Iran & all its Allies" agenda.