Forum Post: SYRIA - the 10% stick
Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 5, 2013, 7:36 a.m. EST by bensdad
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We must attack because we must prove our commitment to stop poison gas attacks - and Assad will stop the gas attacks because of the attacks
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We must not attack because we must avoid the quagmire
OR
If the House or Senate are 10% short of approving an attack & Obama does NOT attack, Assad will stop the gas attacks because of the "10%" threat of attacks
walk softly and carry a big stick - the 10% stick
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/09/03/full-text-senate-foreign-relations-committee-resolution-on-syria/
tl; dr
Thursday: Assad is as bad as Hitler and we have the moral obligation to stop him
Friday: umm he's bad and legally I can stop him but I'm going to let these other guys decide
Saturday: hey world, this whole red line business is your deal, not mine. Don't look at me.
And you think he's gaining status? The faster this farce goes away, the better
and if assad, goes away, whats next ? I certainly see assad = hitlr = mao = stalin etc etc etc.
but if assad is killed, millions of alawites will be slaughtered
and who controls the chemical weapons stockpiles ?
I do NOT know the answer, but I cannot see any "American only" involvement producing positive results.
The only solution is America + Russia + Iran + China
assad & the minority Alawites are fighting for their existence
consider what would have happened in South Africa without Mandella
their are too many groups ( each a minority ) who want all of Syria -
from fundamentalists to "modernists"
I cant imagine how it would happen, but maybe partitioning is a route to peace -
Alawite [ 2,600,000 ]
Islamist
Druze
Democratic secular
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/French_Mandate_for_Syria_and_the_Lebanon_map_en.svg/725px-French_Mandate_for_Syria_and_the_Lebanon_map_en.svg.png
lets also attack kim jong un
I believe in police brutality - don't you ?
I don't think these Keystone Cops in the WH, with their the response should be “just muscular enough not to get mocked” and it"ll be an “unbelievably small” attack could take on Kim Basinger at this point.
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Where did you get that 10% thing from? I wish something would scare Assad enough, but when Obama passes the buck on even his "red line" comment, that's not going to happen. Assad's even taunting him and calling him weak in public.
I confess the 10% idea is mine.
look at the numbers
If Obama does not get majorities in both houses -
say he gets 48 / 100 Senators & 210 / 435 Reps -
and he does NOT attack:
"I believe that the president must abide by the will of the people & their representatives"
Now imagine you are assad - you are 12 votes away from being attacked by the largest military in the world - would you use gas again ?
There is a new book out - The Dictator's Handbook - that helps explain the assads & hittlrs & saddams - they only care about themselves and their core supporters.
America does NOT have the answer to this mess.
Saudi Arabia & Turkey have been trying to get rid of assad for years
let them deal with this monster
If the US military stops ,
the US economy will loss production sales
With us doing this
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-26206-Yosemite-Sam-keeps-crossing-Bu-vFRB.gif
I don't think Assad's worried
cute - but I have listened to many advocates on both sides, but I am convinced that Obama's foolish comment WILL NOT be compounded with an attack.
The overwhelming percentage of Americans are against it, and Obama actually will GAIN national & international stature if he behaves as his citizens want and as most countries want.
FYI- read the latest Senate resolution - it is about as close to a declaration of war as you can get - MUCH worse than the original.
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Not gaining just yet
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/05/1236599/-AP-Reporter-Was-there-some-sort-of-group-spine-removal-op-procedure-at-the-White-House
Does this guys crossed the line? http://rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-execute-teenage-boy-460/ Or maybe this guys crossed the line in 2008-2009? http://www.vtjp.org/background/gazaweapons.php Don't you think that we have to stop supporting them with our tax money? How about this guys? This are bad motherfuckers, nobody wants mess with them. http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2013/03/iraqi-birth-defects-as-direct-result-of.html?m=1 AND THIS http://www.a-w-i-p.com/index.php/2010/07/27/usa-wmd-america-s-covert-hiroshima-in-ir