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Forum Post: Support OWS and all others of like intent. Unite in common cause.

Posted 2 years ago on May 20, 2012, 5:41 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Get out in the streets and protest - HELL YES.

Keep in the eye of the public.

Show how The Powers That Be Are Trying To Deny Free Speech and Legal Protest.

Show How Our Rights Are Being Attacked and Denied.

But also support those who would support us. As we try to regain Our Government and our Country.

Protest in the streets - But do not forget to own our Democratic Process as well.

Support OWS and the world.

Vote out any and all politicians that do not support the Constitution.

Look at voting records - some politicians actually are trying to support the Constitution - The People.

Support those who support a stronger EPA.

Support those that Support regulation of WallStreet.

Support those that support OSTA.

Support those that support the repeal of corporate personhood.

Support those that support getting money out of politics.

Support those that support ending earmarks.

Support those that support ending insider trading in government.

Support those that support ending subsidies to fossil fuel tobacco and other subsidies like them.

Support those who support green power and transportation technology.

THIS IS A MULTIPLE FRONT AGAINST GREED CORRUPTION AND CRIME.

Anarchy: A Definition

What is anarchism?

Anarchism is the movement for social justice through freedom. It is concrete, democratic and egalitarian. It has existed and developed since the seventeenth century, with a philosophy and a defined outlook that have evolved and grown with time and circumstance. Anarchism began as what it remains today: a direct challenge by the underprivileged to their oppression and exploitation. It opposes both the insidious growth of state power and the pernicious ethos of possessive individualism, which, together or separately, ultimately serve only the interests of the few at the expense of the rest.

Anarchism promotes mutual aid, harmony and human solidarity, to achieve a free, classless society - a cooperative commonwealth. Anarchism is both a theory and practice of life. Philosophically, it aims for perfect accord between the individual, society and nature. In an anarchist society, mutually respectful sovereign individuals would be organised in non-coercive relationships within naturally defined communities in which the means of production and distribution are held in common.

Anarchists, are not simply dreamers obsessed with abstract principles. We know that events are ruled by chance, and that people’s actions depend much on long-held habits and on psychological and emotional factors that are often anti-social and usually unpredictable. We are well aware that a perfect society cannot be won tomorrow. Indeed, the struggle could last forever! However, it is the vision that provides the spur to struggle against things as they are, and for things that might be.

Whatever the immediate prospects of achieving a free society, and however remote the ideal, if we value our common humanity then we must never cease to strive to realise our vision. If we settle for anything less, then we are little more than beasts of burden at the service of the privileged few, without much to gain from life other than a lighter load, better feed and a cosier berth.

Ultimately, only struggle determines outcome, and progress towards a more meaningful community must begin with the will to resist every form of injustice.

In general terms, this means challenging all exploitation and defying the legitimacy of all coercive authority. If anarchists have one article of unshakeable faith then it is that, once the habit of deferring to politicians or ideologues is lost, and that of resistance to domination and exploitation acquired, then ordinary people have a capacity to organise every aspect of their lives in their own interests, anywhere and at any time, both freely and fairly.

Anarchism encompasses such a broad view of the world that it cannot easily be distilled into a formal definition. Michael Bakunin, the man whose writings and example over a century ago did most to transform anarchism from an abstract critique of political power into a theory of practical social action, defined its fundamental tenet thus: In a word, we reject all privileged, licensed, official, and legal legislation and authority, even though it arise from universal suffrage, convinced that it could only turn to the benefit of a dominant and exploiting minority, and against the interests of the vast enslaved majority.

Anarchists do not stand aside from popular struggle, nor do they attempt to dominate it. They seek to contribute to it practically whatever they can, and also to assist within it the highest possible levels both of individual self-development and of group solidarity. It is possible to recognise anarchist ideas concerning voluntary relationships, egalitarian participation in decision-making processes, mutual aid and a related critique of all forms of domination in philosophical, social and revolutionary movements in all times and places.

Elsewhere, the less formal practices and struggles of the more indomitable among the propertyless and disadvantaged victims of the authority system have found articulation in the writings of those who on brief acquaintance would appear to be mere millenarian dreamers. Far from being abstract speculations conjured out of thin air, such works have, like all social theories, been derived from sensitive observation. They reflect the fundamental and uncontainable conviction nourished by a conscious minority throughout history that social power held over people is a usurpation of natural rights: power originates in the people, and they alone have, together, the right to wield it.

de·moc·ra·cy/diˈmäkrəsē/ Noun:

A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. A state governed in such a way.

re·pub·lic/riˈpəblik/ Noun: A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president...

un·ion/ˈyo͞onyən/ Noun:

The action or fact of joining together or being joined together, esp. in a political context. A state of harmony or agreement: "they live in perfect union".

Wherein lies the conflict?

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[-] 6 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Vote out any and all politicians that do not support the Constitution.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

NO WAR

[+] -5 points by gamm789 (-10) 2 years ago

Why were you posting here when OWS protesters who badly needed support were less than 500 miles away from where you claim to be, DKAtoday?

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

DKAtoday has it right. I agree with this post. Get out into the streets. Don't let up the pressure, the 1% continue to malign, and attack our young movement! Do you disagree Gamm?. Are you trying to stop OWS?. "If you aren't behind us your in our fuckin way". Get in line. Support OWS. Vote out anti epa politicians

[-] -1 points by lkindr (58) 2 years ago

EPA is just a means for the big corporations to eliminate competitors.

[-] -3 points by indy456 (0) 2 years ago

You are an idiot, VQkag. This challenge to "Get out into the streets" was made to DKAtoday - who lives only a few hours from Chicago - and not by him.

[-] 4 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

DKAtodays forum heading states at the top get out in the streets. Gammies negative post challenging DKA is rooted in his personal issues with DKA. Has nothing to do with OWS and marching. your name calling clearly has nothing to do with OWS. You and gamm want to tear down? Yes? We must lift up. name calling is childish. should be below you. Support OWS vote out pro bully politicians

[+] -4 points by carl321 (0) 2 years ago

Factsrfun admitted he's a Democratic Party hack. Why don't you do the same thing, VQkag, and get the fuck out of this forum...

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/americans-have-three-choices-in-november-bushbamne/#comment-739976

[-] 4 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

LOL. how many logins do you have? Why should I get off the forum? I have a right to express my opinion. Don't you agree. Or maybe you are republican and don't think any opposing opinions are allowed. Support OWS. Vote out anti wall st reform politicians

[+] -4 points by doug654 (-2) 2 years ago

You are here to do one thing, VQkag, and that's plant pro-regime propaganda. So fuck off, poser. You are outed!

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Doesn't matter how many different logins you use. the reality is we just have a difference of opinion. I want to change the regime from within. you want to silence opposing views. My position is more powerful. Yours is like that of a little middleschool bully. Sorry. Support OWS. vote out anti Social security politicians

[-] -3 points by doug654 (-2) 2 years ago

"Vote for Obama" is the only "position" you've got, VQkag.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

my positions are issue specific. I have great problems with the lack of progress the President has made. I believe republican obstruction and peoples apathy have contributed to the slow progress. I do not expect 1 President/party to do what needs to be done. The people are responsible for our fucked up situation. YOU and me. We've been sleeping. Get up. Stop playing schoolyard games. protest like the rest of us. get more people to the movement. stop pushing people away. Stop trying to silence people. Embrace all views with understanding and intelligent discussion. Ignorance and exclusion are your tools. I support changing the system from within. Co opting an existing party, but have not asked anyone to vote for the president. Support OWS. Vote out pro ALEC politicians.

[+] -4 points by eboz987 (-7) 2 years ago

Bullshit: "Vote for Obama" is the only "position" you've got, VQkag.

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Never said it. Wouldn't say it. Vote your interests. Stop tryin to silence people! its so fascist. So totalitarian. Support OWS. vote out anti liberal judge appointing politicians.

[+] -4 points by eboz987 (-7) 2 years ago

"Vote for Obama" is the only "position" you've got, VQkag. "Never said it" my ass. You say it a hundred different ways...

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

never said it. That is why you are so frustrated. Never would. Don't have to say it. Vote the issues. Vote your interests. If you are the 1% or you have been co opted by them (like tea party) then the choice is clear. If you Support the 99% you should believe that one party can be made to serve the 99%. We can take it back. It's our only hope. But won't work without continued, growing peaceful protest/pressure on all pols. Support OWS. Vote out climate change denying politicians.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Fight prejudice educate people must learn to think for themselves:

prej·u·dice (prj-ds)

n.

1.

a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

b. A preconceived preference or idea.

  1. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.

  2. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

  3. Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others. tr.v. prej·u·diced, prej·u·dic·ing, prej·u·dic·es

  4. To cause (someone) to judge prematurely and irrationally. See Synonyms at bias.

  5. To affect injuriously or detrimentally by a judgment or an act. [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin praeidicium : prae-, pre- + idicium, judgment (from idex, idic-, judge; see deik- in Indo-European roots).]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

People of Chicago you are awesome!

Get out in the streets and protest - HELL YES.

Show how The Powers That Be Are Trying To Deny Free Speech and Legal Protest.

Show How Our Rights Are Being Attacked and Denied.

[-] -3 points by eboz987 (-7) 2 years ago

Why the Hell aren't YOU out in the streets, DKAtoday? If I lived as close to Chicago as you do, that's where I'd be!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Where do you live?

Why do you attack me for supporting the fight against greed corruption and crime?

I have made no secret of my personal status. I just don't go around whining about it. But if you insist that I repeat my status.

So be it. I am retired due to illness I have an autoimmune disease that attacks the central nervous system. I am currently living on SS Disability.

So now since you appeared to have missed this before - there you go.

Attack away SFB.

[-] -3 points by eboz987 (-7) 2 years ago

"I am retired due to illness I have an autoimmune disease that attacks the central nervous system. I am currently living on SS Disability."

Bullshit, DKAtoday. Word on the street is when you get doxed it'll show you have a six-figure income and a valid drivers license. So either post proof to the contrary or grow a pair, fill up your tank and get to Chicago!

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I do have a valid drivers license.

What feed a monster like you my personal information so that you can make my life more of a living hell? I don't think so.

How about you show documented proof of who you are?

[-] -2 points by eboz987 (-7) 2 years ago

You have a valid license and at least two cars. Grow a pair, grab your keys and drive one of them to Chicago...

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I used to have a nice car it was a 2002 Honda Insight. I got an average of 45 mpg in stop and go rush hour traffic and my best recorded mileage was 60mpg cruising at 65 mph on the freeway.

I lost that car shortly before I lost my home after I had lost my job in 2008. My 401K money ran out as I could not get unemployment and had no other assistance available because my 401K money put me in a position of having too many assets. It took over two years to get my disability approved and for several months I was homeless.

Now because I know how to live frugally I have a beater car with over 185,000 miles on it that only gets around 20 mpg, but it gets me to the Doctors office when I need to go and it allows me to get my grocery's. As I am mostly home bound I only drive when I have too - so if I am careful and plan my outings to be efficient I can avoid the gas station and only need to fill-up about once a month - this is a God send as gas is hugely expensive.

[-] -2 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

Am I suppose to feel pity? I don't. Your story is overly romanticized. It might make a good movie called "Lost Hope", but apart from that, I don't see the use of posting it here.

One stinkle for you mister.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Nice another sock puppet. I did not volunteer my situation your other sock puppet demanded it.

You think my story romantic?

Try living it.

[+] -4 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

Sell the rights to Hollywood, and stop complaining. We're all in the same boat buddy. You ain't special, you really ain't.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I did not bring it up and I don't talk about it. But your sock puppets want to attack and discredit me - so they brought up the subject. I am happy to let it go and get back to business.

[-] -2 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

No sock puppet here champ. Doggy want a pity bone? Pity pity.... What a poor DKAtoday. Here, jump jump, catch the pity bone.

[-] 0 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Nasty, bullying! Personal attacks. You put people down to lift yourself up. It is pathetic. We're not in the same boat you are clearly far worse off. Your lack of compassion betrays your absents of soul. No wonder you don't support OWS and the 99%. you are obviously a republican.

[-] -2 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

Not new. Wrong answer! your login shows you started yesterday. Are you saying his treatment of you justifies yours of his. HA! You only have insults and bullying tactics! You have done nothing else. You don't post about issues that matter. You only attack those that do. Support OWS Vote out pro bully politicians

I'm the user here with the most posts. That includes the most serious posts, the most lame posts, the most humorous posts, the most attacking posts, etc...

[-] 0 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

You mean since yesterday? You're a bully, and a coward hiding behind one login after the other. Support OWS. Vote out pro citizens united politicians!

[-] -2 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

You're new, it shows. If you knew how much DKAtoday treated me and others badly in the past you would be laughing. The guy is a major troll on this forum.

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Not new. Wrong answer! your login shows you started yesterday. Are you saying his treatment of you justifies yours of his. HA! You only have insults and bullying tactics! You have done nothing else. You don't post about issues that matter. You only attack those that do. Support OWS Vote out pro bully politicians

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

F U

My story is far from unique.

Illness has screwed the lives of many and continues to do so to this day.

Many of those like myself lost their employment due to the illness.

Many of those have been refused aid without 1st taking legal recourse.

Many of those end up homeless for a time.

Many of those suffered like situations as mine even before the economic meltdown and it was so much worse through the worst of the meltdown period.

Things have not gotten better either for those afflicted.

[-] -3 points by ClaraSprings (91) 2 years ago

Oh my, many dogs jumping for many pity bones.

I think someone needs to down vote you pity boy. Systematically, if you know what I mean. Jart answer your question yet? Didn't think so. Seems like you got left standing in the dust. All alone. pitiful.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Not much of an original asshole are you?

[+] -5 points by fred234 (8) 2 years ago

Yeah right, DKAtoday...

Were you once abducted and abused by aliens, too?

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

F U

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (5968) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

05/21/2012????? yet you know soooo much, WTF?????

are we suppose to believe some of your lies while not looking at the rest?????

WHO the FUCK are you?

[-] 0 points by lkindr (58) 2 years ago

Don't use meaningless and fear-inducing terms like anarchism.

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[-] -1 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

you are a brain washed idiot. get some ambition...and stop the begging.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Whose begging?

I am demanding.

The corrupt as they are defeated may beg.

I wonder if Madoff felt like begging when he was run through the wringer for his crimes.

Time to end white collar crime and corruption.

That about says it all.

[-] -1 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

Look in the mirror ...and get honest with yourself my friend.. And then you will see the face of the corrupt.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

TryingForAnOpenMind - I believe I can see the reason for the failure of your quest so far.

Let me offer a helping hand.


1st you must understand the concept:

o·pen-mind·ed    [oh-puhn-mahyn-did] Show IPA adjective

1. having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.

2. unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.


Then you can seek to fulfill your quest.

[-] 0 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

go check out your own mind...and endeavor to see what is causing the disturbance, evidenced by your words.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Sheesh blame a guy for trying to be helpful.

Do you also drive around in an unfamiliar area until you run out of gas before you ask for directions?

[-] -1 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

don't get that comparison. go soak your head in a vat of apple cider vinegar. I hear that is a great detoxifying agent. There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke..

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (22318) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I heard that apple cider vinegar is good for the relief of sunburn.

The more you know.

I am happy you are having such a good time of it. I mean yeah there are moments of humor but you have to be in a place to appreciate it. For all too many life is a living Hell. I'd like to be able to get them into a place/environment where they could enjoy humor.

Life is a joke all right. Unless of course it is not funny at all.

[-] 0 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

that's a line from: all along the watch tower. today is bob's b'day. There must be some way out of here said the joker to the thief...there's too much confusion..I can't get no relief. Hooray for Bob Dylan. 71 years old today !