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Forum Post: Social Programs

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 19, 2012, 10:30 p.m. EST by kingscrossection (1203)
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We are the only nation who will completely to quote toukarin, "eradicate a native population" then give them land and pay them to drink themselves to death. This seems completely ridiculous.

OWS wants to take a look at fixing problems you should look at programs like this. And before anyone says anything about me being a racist or a bigot, I myself am a 3rd generation indian and I think these programs are ridiculous.

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[-] 2 points by TitusMoans (2367) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

I'm not quite sure what programs you're talking about?

I've lived close to the Navajos, the Hopis, the Zunis, and the White Mountain Apaches for years and never knew of anyone that paid them "to drink themselves to death."

Some, a larger percentage than in the off-reservation population, do drink themselves to death, but not because they're paid to do so. Also, the vast majority of reservation residents are decent hard-working people. Unfortunately, very few industries have chosen to locate to reservations, so unemployment on the reservations remains disproportionately high, as does poverty and its offspring: substance abuse, crime, sickness, and hunger.

The federal government has set up the Indian Health Service for Native Americans, which basically amounts to complete medical care; it provides low-priced reservation housing; and operates various social programs that are most often also available to non-Native Americans.

Tribal governments now exert considerable autonomy: allocating housing, setting the agenda for local education, controlling law-enforcement on their land, except in major cases or those serious offenses involving non-reservation residents, in which case the FBI steps in.

Most reservation residents choose to live there, in spite of the disadvantages because they want to use their native language, participate in their native culture, and--most hope--to pass on that culture to their posterity.

Do not denigrate the vast majority of Native Americans by lumping them into a stereotype, which has little basis in truth.

You say you are third-generation Indian, which I assume means one of your ancestors was a Native American. If you don't mind answering from which tribe?

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

I guess I should have included substance abuse but it makes more sense to say drink to death than substance to death does it not?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

Still working on settling disputes like here

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

Can you name a specific program?

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

The AoA run through the Department of Health & Human Services.(http://www.aoa.gov/aoa_programs/hcltc/native_americans/index.aspx). The ANA program run by the same people(http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ana/programs/program_information.html).

Those were the first two I found.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

So, you just ran a search to find a program?

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Yes because I don't have a website for the program I'm actually referring to here but these do similar things they just aren't as old.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

No, because you don't have any clue as to what the program is.

You just wanted to claim that you were Native American in the high hopes nobody would call you out. I call bullshit.

Why don't you go learn about what the hell it is that you are so desperate to cut before trying to get it cut.

[-] 0 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Whatever. I know what I know and you'll be an idiot who won't do her own research.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

The only idiot here is you. From the time that you started this bullshit thread until today, you had ample time to actually figure out what you are talking about. However, you didn't.

The purpose of this thread was for you to be a dick. Congratulations, your a lying Koch whore. Yay you!!!

[-] 0 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Yay me. I love when I get praise.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

Only you can prevent forest fires.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Only you can stop your own stupidity. I was simply giving programs that you could easily find if you chose to conduct your own search.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

You started this on another thread. You brought it here. It is quite obvious what your intention is and that you know nothing about any of the programs.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 2 years ago

I would like someone to pay me to Drink.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Yup. Incredibly constructive comment here. Thanks for that.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 2 years ago

Not a problem,your very welcome.Have a drink on me pal.

[-] -2 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Throughout history many nations have been conquered. It's time for you american Indians to GET OVER IT!!

[-] 1 points by MaryS (678) 2 years ago

You're obviously a sensitive fellow

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Sensitivity levels has nothing to do with it. This perpetual victimization bullshit is fucking old. I've been hearing this garbage all my life. It's time for all these whimpering assholes to grow up.

[-] 2 points by MaryS (678) 2 years ago

You talk about history but sound like someone who has never cracked open a history book. Why don't you try it sometime, you don't really even need to read it. Just look at the pictures....

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21780) 2 years ago

giggle

That was great with coffee.

[-] 2 points by MaryS (678) 2 years ago

Happy to oblige. I have my moments.

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

I posit I know more history than you. History. Not ideology and shithead propaganda you retarded liberals espouse.

[-] 2 points by MaryS (678) 2 years ago

Settle down, beavis. I really don't feel like arguing. Just hope your Grandma doesn't ever need one of those social programs you hate so much- or you..

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Shithead propaganda. Don't worry what my grandma needs. Just continue to believe in your murderous Marxist garbage....Daria.

[-] -1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

i completely agree. They lost and we pay them. Granted some of them were enslaved but that didn't last any time at all.