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Forum Post: Somalia and anarchy?

Posted 10 years ago on Jan. 25, 2012, 8:36 p.m. EST by Lardhead2 (67)
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The "nation" of Somalia is essentially an anarchy. Is this what you anarchists want for our nation? Why wouldn't your way lead to this? How is it different?



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[-] 2 points by freehorseman (267) from Miles City, Mt 10 years ago

The brain of Lardhead is essentially scrambled.Is this what you Nazis want for our nation?Why would your way be bent over easy?How is this differnt?

[-] 1 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

Nsow THAT was brilliant! Yes. You Marxist fistula's will solve all of humanities problems.

To think this once great nation has sunk this low........

[+] -6 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

... as to have a palpable cretin like you, trying to represent it !!!

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 10 years ago

Somalia is chaos, not political anarchy. It is groups competing for power, not one group making decisions via direct democracy or consensus. Anarchy in anti-hierarchical. Somalia is all about who comes out on top. They are opposites.

Before you start throwing words around and turning them into accusations, learn what those words mean.

[-] 1 points by Cephalus (146) 10 years ago

All true, but we should note that Occupy is hierarchal in structure.

The NYCGA is the mother base. It controls this website, donations, all major Occupy decisions, press releases, and official Occupy news articles.

The only difference with a republic is that the levels and representatives are not clearly defined in theory. In practice, OWS is a clear top to bottom pyramid with the 1% on top and the 99% at the bottom. You and I are part of the 99%, anarchists who reside in NYC and have much more power than us are the 1%.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 10 years ago

Although I suspect what you say is true about OWS's structure, the accusation in the OP was against anarchists in general, obviously misunderstanding that anarchism, by definition, is anti-hierarchical. To use that miscomprehension as a barb, to imply that OWS is trying to fashion another Somalia, is just plain stupidity based on ignorance.

[-] 0 points by Cephalus (146) 10 years ago

I know what the OP meant. I'm not referring to the OP or Somalia at all. Only to OWS.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 10 years ago

I must have misspoken. I meant the OP was stupid, not you. I should have written "for him to use" rather than simply "to use". My apologies if I inadvertently insulted you. It was not my intention.

[-] 0 points by Cephalus (146) 10 years ago

Got it ;-)

[+] -5 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

ep@1nter : It is more than that !

The 'cePhalus' (aka 'Trashyman' / 'Glad2Con' / f*ck knows which other persona and moniker) is not just acting from "plain stupidity based on ignorance" ; he is an arrogant, conceited, conservative, supercillious, dissembling reactionary - masquerading as an 'anarchist' progressive !!

His choice to tag his invidious, snide and unsubstantiated opinion onto "Lard Bucket / Sh*thead's" Troll Post above, speaks volumes and is totally representative of his disruptive and corrosive, opinions and behaviour (eg. recently defending both SOPA and 'Anti-Occupy' Police Violence), on this forum !!!

From his lair in Bali, Indonesia, re. OWS - this self-admitted 'multi-moniker' (& persona ?!) 'IT savvy' poster, has been waging an insidious one person dissension, disruption & disinformation campaign and the real question we should ask, is ...


[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 10 years ago

You misunderstand: I have no issue with Cephalus. (Nor with you.)It is Lardhead's post I believe is stupidity based on ignorance.

I know you and he have crossed rhetorical and emotional swords before. I really don't want to be in the middle of that.

His observation that OWS is de facto hierarchical despite its theoretical aspirations may be valid: I don't know. But from other things I have read from a variety of sources, I believe it is a credible accusation. If so, it would be better to head it than deny it out of hand, not to hurt the movement, but to strengthen it. Critique is not condemnation, after all.

I know that you are a staunch supporter of OWS. I am too. I believe Cephalus, despite his conflict with you, is as well. That he has certain reservations is fine. I do, too. But on the whole, from what I've read in these fora, he is fully supportive of the general movement, if not so much some of the particulars.

I might very well be wrong about everything. But I believe that you should both put aside your enmity, at least temporarily, for the sake of the common good, for the sake of helping create real, positive change. "Sins" may have occurred from both sides. I hope you can put them behind you.

As for me, I won't get entangled in your feud.

[+] -6 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Sorry for piggy-backing your post with my ire and for misunderstanding what you meant. Thank you for your good grace and wise words. Tho' I may not quite agree with everything you say, you are a good person and have my respect. Stay well.

[-] 1 points by ErnieB0T (12) 10 years ago

oh, thrasy, what did you do? I don't blame you... I blame myself for leaving you home alone with the dog..... we've got get this peanut butter cleaned up fast before mom gets home....she'll freak out again .... I don't think skippy will ever be the same again....oh thrasy....

[-] 1 points by IslandActivist (191) from Keaau, HI 10 years ago

I did not study the Somalia civil war. Their failure resulted from not organizing the people. If OWS launched an attack as of now, they would fail because OWS is far from organized. Anarchists are not savages. They are people. Somalia chose their direction but does not speak for all anarchists. Now if you don't mind, I have an airplane to catch.

[-] 1 points by nichole (525) 10 years ago

Somalia functions well as an "anarchy" when the U.S. is not busy throwing it into chaos.

[-] 1 points by itsglobalbackerz (1) 10 years ago

Somalia should be observed by the UN ..

[-] 1 points by iwantfreemoneynow (58) 10 years ago

Woah dude, I thought anarchy was mad cool and stuff. I was told I would get free shit under anarchy, WTF! I don't want to have pirates all up in my ass. I think I'm going to go with socialism, much less violent dude.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 10 years ago

What about those Somalia pirates.Killed them like they were Nazis,makes a fela nervous ay LardAss

[-] 1 points by freehorseman (267) from Miles City, Mt 10 years ago

lardhead crawl back in your hole and die you rodent.

[-] -2 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

Go fuck yourself Marxist filth.

[-] 1 points by freehorseman (267) from Miles City, Mt 10 years ago

Just a normal All American Nazi killer

[-] -2 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

You keepthinking that. You Marxists have killed more people than the nazi's could've dreamed of killing.

[-] 0 points by freehorseman (267) from Miles City, Mt 10 years ago

Mosy were Nazi fags like you

[-] 2 points by NKVD (55) 10 years ago

Actually they killed millions of their own people.

[-] 1 points by freehorseman (267) from Miles City, Mt 10 years ago

And want to kill millons of us

[-] 1 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

Great answer.... Typical.

[-] 0 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 10 years ago

You know you right wingers play the Marxist card more than African Americans play the race card. You need to get a new deck.

[-] 0 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

The fact that you call them African Americans tells me you are a phony .

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 10 years ago

Call them over to stomp Lardhead

[-] 0 points by Lardhead2 (67) 10 years ago

Go away hula boy.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 10 years ago

Good morning lard Ass it's about time you woke your lazy stupid self up.