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Forum Post: Social media campaign ‘#notamartyr’ seeks to challenge taboos

Posted 9 months ago on Jan. 4, 2014, 7:23 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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But on top of giving people a visible, albeit temporary, outlet to express their frustrations, the idea was also to stop the label “martyr” being applied to people who, rather than willingly dying for a cause they believed in, were simply unwitting victims of violence.

The word is “overused,” said Muhannad, and just covers up the brutal fact that “the [dead] person was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

“Our problem with the word is not in those cases when someone wishes for themselves to be a martyr,” he explained, “but when an innocent victim is appropriated by larger political forces through that word.

“It’s the appropriation that we don’t like, no one has died for any good reason in any of these bombings,” he added.

The other problem with the word, explains fellow blogger Gino Raidy, is that it can be used to absolve authorities of the responsibility they have to find and punish those behind attacks.

“The word ‘martyr’ used to have a certain respect attached to it,” he told The Daily Star. “But it’s now become an instant reaction to any death ... they are called a martyr so we move on, no investigation needed.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2014/Jan-04/243072-social-media-campaign-notamartyr-seeks-to-challenge-taboos.ashx#ixzz2pToD2K5b (The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

Do read the entire thang.

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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Now - I always thought that a martyr was made. A martyr to my understanding - never died willingly - no they were put to death by TPTB - but they did die " not willing " to give up their beliefs. No true martyr ever sought death or the taking of innocent lives by/at their own hand.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Martyrdom is always a political weapon and involves exploitation. This political tool feeds off hopelessness, helplessness and futility of effort.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

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Yes - a political weapon - this includes religion as a political weapon as well as the source ( common source ) of many a proclaimed martyr.Huh one of the 1st ever political weapons? I mean like this sort of thing predates Christianity - right?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

No, it really doesn't predate Christianity. Christians were never persecuted for their religion. The twisting came later and is utilized to stifle dissent and is the first that utilizes a reward system for it. That's pivotal.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Follow-up - the Romans didn't ever martyr anyone prior to the formation of the Christian Religion? No One Did?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Nope. You have instances of heroes or resistance but again, there was no reward system.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

No lions in the arena?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Nope. In fact, there are accounts of Christians begging to die from Roman soldiers and they were like-um, no. Perpetua and Felicity? BS.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

interesting

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

It's easy to recruit suicide bombers - if you have a populace that lives in misery. Those would be martyrs though - should take note that their recruiters aren't blowing themselves up - what does that - should that say to the suicide-rs? Perhaps that there is something wrong with their thinking? But - NO - as - if there was nothing wrong with their thinking - they would not be looking to commit suicide in the 1st place.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Well, if you perpetuate the feelings of helplessness then you can have easy pickings. That's the problem.

No, the recruiters aren't dead. That's a point that I made in a prior thread. And the thing about the above interview is that she was highly educated. It's culture.

This is Hamas current BS here and they are hurting because Morsi's gone. It's all a bunch of egotistical crap.

4 died and 77 injured in a suicide bombing in Beirut and Hezbollah are promising to fight back. A female suicide bomber killed 16 in Volgograd last week. Muslim Brotherhood injured 130 and killed 16 last month. It's time for a better way.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

It's time for a better way.

Long past time - as the whole world can witness/testify.