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Forum Post: so when are we gonna start fighting back?

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 13, 2011, 10:23 p.m. EST by blackbloc (-19)
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the movement needs to come up with a comprehensive plan for protests this next year all of the new world order organizations and their off shoots should be targeted (g-20, the trilateral commission, multi national corporations, financial institutions, mass media companies, council on foreign relations and the other various entities that make up this group) as well as the political conventions and anything else that maybe supporting the status quo and lets shine the light of day on these treasonous monsters.

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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Is occupy the dnc happening?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i sure hope so dnc and rnc

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

I know RNC is, because Im helping with it, since I live in Tampa. My main worry is DNC doesnt, and hence this becomes even more partisan than it already is.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

na we will be at dnc in charlotte guaranteed

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

The Revolution has a new theme song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-GOHa5-YQ

http://occupywallst.org/forum/in-the-name-of-allah/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i liked his music better when he was cat stevens sorry

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

Not the end of the world. The main goal is bring attention to Toshiba and Enterprise Rent A Car.

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

bastards they are

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

They are worse than bastards. Toshiba has done what the OWS fears most, obtained power right under everyone's noses. As for those parents who lost their daughters to Enterprise's greed, it's so heartbreaking, words can hardly describe their sorrow, especially now that Christmas is coming up. Everyday is a downfall of tears for them. :(

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

is fucked

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

You mean you haven't started yet?

That's OK there is plenty of time to begin.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

of course i have

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

I know at least one person on this site who would probably think you were their soul mate. Where are you Leynna/Renaye/Sovaye? Or could it be . . . ? Hmmm . . . I wonder.

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 12 years ago

Well hello there gnomunny! I saw your post to me last night. I went to answer this morning and couldn't find the thread. I just posted the name post above to blackbloc.

I've been keeping an eye on your posts and I love what you do. Keep up the great work!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

Thank you, sovaye, the feeling is definitely mutual. Your dedication is admirable. It's good to see others like blackbloc looking at the global picture as well so it looks like we'll be turning up the heat on the power-mongers next year. 2012 should be interesting to say the least.

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 12 years ago

I think you're right. Hang on tight!

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

thats cool

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

Words are easy - action is hard
HELP ME FIGHT BACK

Are you ready
.....................FOR ACTION
Are you ready to
.....................DO SOMETHING REAL ?
Are you ready to
......................join 83% ........ of Americans ?

We must not
DEMAND that we WANT THEM.to give to US
We must
DEMAND GOALS THAT WE WILL ACHIEVE FOR OURSELVES


Because of the Supreme Court's decision,
we cannot accomplish anything significant, without FIRST -
Overturning Citizens United !!!
Ending Corporate Personhood !!!


83% of Americans already agree on it
as stated in the ABC/Washington Post poll

.........................................

In the the PFAW Poll -

85% of voters say that corporations have too much influence over the political system today.
77% think Congress should support an amendment to limit the amount corporations can spend on elections.
74% say that they would be more likely to vote for a candidate for Congress who pledged to support a Constitutional Amendment limiting corporate spending in elections.


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


Our only immediate goal should be to pass a constitutional amendment to counter Supreme Court decision Citizens United (2010) , that enables unlimited amounts of anonymous money to flood into our political system.
“Corporations and organizations are not a persons &
have no personhood rights”

We don’t have to explain or persuade people to accept our position – we only have to persuade them to ACT based on their own position. Pursuing this goal will prove to the world that we, at OWS, are a serious realistic Movement, with serious realistic goals. Achieving this goal will make virtually every other goal – jobs, taxes, infrastructure, Medicare – much easier to achieve –
by disarming our greatest enemy – GREED.
IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


THE SUCCESS STORY OF THE AMENDING PROCESS The Prohibition movement started as a disjointed effort by conservative teetotalers who thought the consumption of alcohol was immoral. They ransacked saloons and garnered press coverage here and there for a few years. Then they began to gain support from the liberals because many considered alcohol partially responsible for spousal and child abuse, among other social ills. This odd alliance, after many years of failing to influence change consistently across jurisdictions, decided to concentrate on one issue nationally—a constitutional amendment. They pressured all politicians on every level to sign a pledge to support the amendment. Any who did not, they defeated easily at the ballot box since they controlled a huge number of liberal, and conservative and independent swing votes in every election. By being a single-issue constituency attacking from all sides of the political spectrum, they very quickly amassed enough votes (2/3) to pass the amendment in Congress. And, within just 17 months, they were successful in getting ¾ of the state legislatures to ratify the constitutional amendment into law. (Others were ratified even faster: Eight —took less than a year. The 26th, granting 18-year-olds the right to vote, took just three months and eight days.)


If they could tie the left and right into a success -
WHY CAN'T WE ??????????

IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


I feel that we should stay with this simple text to overturn CU:
”corporations are not people”
for four simple reasons and one – not so simple:
1
83% of Americans have already opposed CU in the ABC/Washington post poll and the above
IS THEIR POSITION ALREADY.
2
We don’t have to work to convince people on the validity of our position.
3
Simple is almost always better.
4
This simple Amendment is REQUIRED to overturn CU.
And all other electoral reform can be passed through the normal legislative process. 5
OWS and these pages are chock full of ( mostly ) excellent ideas to improve our country.
All of them have strong advocates – and some have strong opposition.
None of them has been “pre-approved” by 83% of Americans !
Pursuing this goal – without additional specifics is exactly what Americans want.
What do we want? Look at that almost endless list of demands – goals - aims.
Tax the rich. End the Fed. Jobs for all, Medicare for all. So easy to state! Can you imagine how hard it would be to formulate a “sales pitch” for any of these to convince your Republican friends to vote for any of them?
83% of Americans have ALREADY “voted” against CU. And 76% of the Rs did too.
All we have to do ask Americans is to pressure their representatives – by letters - emails – petitions.

Wanna take your family on vacation?
Convince the 7 year old and the 10 year old to go to Mt Rushmore.
Then try to convince them to go to Disneyland.
Prioritizing this goal will introduce us to the world – not as a bunch of hippie radical anarchist socialist commie rabblerousers – but as a responsible, mature movement that is fighting for what America wants.
YOUR ACTION ----> JOIN US TO ACT MAKE A DIFFERENCE


I feel that using the tactics of the NRA, the AARP an the TP – who all represent a minority – who have successfully used their voting power to achieve their minority goals - plus the Prohibition Amendment tactics – bringing all sides together - is a straight path for us to success that cannot fail to enable us to create and complete one task the MAJORITY.


Join the OWS Restore Democracy Working Group at
..............http://www.nycga.net/groups/restore-democracy
regular meetings 6-8PM @ 60 Wall St – The Attrium @ Wednesdays
Plan details with supporting documentation at:.... http://bit.ly/vK2pGI


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE

TO END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD


Whereas --

The OWS Declaration of the Occupation of New York City states that
"a democratic government derives its just power from the people,
not from corporations."

and --

the ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 83% of the entire US population
opposes the Supreme Court Citizens United decision,
which affirmed that corporations are people.

and --

by supporting the overturning of corporate personhood,
OWS clearly aligns itself with the vast majority of the American people
who support ending the fundamentally flawed and anti-democratic concept
that corporations are people.

therefore --

We support a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood.


[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

corps have control over how much we work and how much we are are paid and when

that's a great deal more influence than the government ever had

[-] 1 points by tellmewhy (4) 12 years ago

You obviously do not know the meaning of the word "treason", but I suspect from your various posts there's a LOT you don't know!

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

actually subverting the constitution of the united states while holding public office is treasonous but i dont expect you to understand by your name obviously you need everything explained to you and i quite frankly don't want to waste the effort

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

stick with the banking institutions, demand justice where fraud can be demonstrated

demand an end to foreclosures

demand an end of bush era tax breaks, corporate loopholes

focus on issues related to global warming

target candidates who won't fall in line with protests, mic.checks, petitions,

and support the Sanders amendment

that kinda stuff - forget that nwo stuff - nobody understands it

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

but these organizations are the 1% we need to shine a light on them

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

so are the banking institutions

they are the primary beneficiaries of the current economic model of deregulation, which is largely responsible for the economic collapse

with them out of the picture it will be easier to make progress on these other issues

it's an intricate web of power and relationships, alliances - the banking and investment industry has fucked up, they are vulnerable, once that piece is gone we can expose others.

it's going to take time, this is just beginning

keep the faith

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i worry that they have plans "for OWS" that are dark and if we don't shine a light on the whole picture we may only be headed off at the pass later

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

don't freak

of course they have plans

once they move, we'll use their plans against them

just like every single incident of pepper spray

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

easy for you to say you are zendog

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

so are you man

you just don't know it yet

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

well if they will blow kennedy's brains all over dealey plaza think what they will do to us i know you have seen the bill in front of obama

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

i know you have seen the bill in front of obama

?

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

oh, right

well, they haven't killed me yet, and I'm certain it's easy enough to accomplish

not that I'm all that special really

I think once we get rid of the economic philosophy that depends on deregulation and unlimited donations to political candidates we can roll that piece back

if they try to use that part of the defense authorization act against the Occupy Movement it'll work in our favor

the ACLU will be all over it.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

what if they stage some sort of false flag ows terrorist attack and throw us in the fema camps

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

well, that would be bold

they'll probably get caught

ultimately it doesn't matter - what matters is this is our country

we have got to stand up and attempt to correct things

if we don't then we just give up

that's un-American

We're not un-American

those who depend on the current economic philosophy are un-American

as long as we stick with that as a party line

we can't lose

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i don't think so i just don't think so knowing what in know about the immensely complicated plan for a new world order, psychedelics and quantum physics and consciousness and esoteric mysticism and having witnessed this fantastic ufo phenomena with my own eyes there is a lot more at play here than meets they eye unraveling the mystery is extremely daunting but it is fun there is a big picture most people just cant see it be cause they only have a little piece and even if you fit all the pieces together you may not see it because well it is so big that you lack perspective like something that is only visible from the sky but you are on the ground and those that poses the true knowledge of mankind today to enslave him with it instead of setting him free for there is no power or control with freedom but by the people themselves

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i also witnessed this strange strobe phenomena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VOI1ufmqW0&feature=related

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

trust me once you see this shit in person you think different i witnessed ufo very similar to this in pinebush ny with a friend who saw the same thing it is not human technology no way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufRAwFIVMsg&feature=related

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

yeah-ya

i've seen strange shit too -

props man.

that's all it is

props

they are actors on a stage

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

9-11 was bold jfk, rfk, mlk were all bold covering up ufo's and ete's is bold iran contra was bold the invasion of iraq was bold hell the whole new world order plan is bold

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

take a breathe man

there are no aliens

that's just a lie

told by actors on a stage

I admit, the actors have great props

but that's all they are

props

fuck'em

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

ufo's oy vey. this website is infested with disinformation types.

[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 12 years ago

An old post of mine, I thing you may get a kick out of.~

What I don't understand is, why are none of the names of the criminal elites on all the signs that the protesters are carrying? The thing that the elite cabal fear MORE THAN ANYTHING, is the knowledge that we know who they are personally...and total exposure is the only thing that will stop them! "End the Fed" is a great start, but it is still too benevolent. We should be carrying signs that show loudly and clearly that we know exactly who they are! That way they can't hide behind the faceless blanket term "GLOBALISTS", 'BANKERS', "ELITE", "FEDERAL RESERVE", "1%" or "NWO".

Most people think the Federal Reserve is a government entity. It is not. It is privately owned by the world's wealthiest families and royal families who have violently protected their identiites from being connected to the federal reserve. They are responsible for a countless loss of life to try to keep this secret for many, many, many generations. The internet has been their worst enemy and hopefully will release their strangle hold on us.

The signs should read things like "ROTHSCHILDS END YOUR RULE", "ROTHSCHILDS SHOULD BE IN JAIL", "ROCKEFELLERS ARE GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINALS", "KISSINGER WANTS 90% DEPOPULATION", "QUEEN ELIZABETH & PRINCE CHARLES ARE DEPOPULATIONISTS", "KRUPPS ARE KILLERS", "ASTORS ARE BANKER THEIVES", "BUSH FAMILY ARE GENOCIDE PLOTTERS", "BUFFET ENGINEERED ECONOMIC CRASH", "GREENSPAN ENGINEERED ECONOMIC MELTDOWN", "GLOBALISTS DEPOPULATE YOURSELVES - END YOUR RULE", "MEROVINGIANS ARE THEIVES", "WALDORFS ARE KILLERS", "FREEMANS ARE CRIMINALS", "CARNEGIES ARE CRIMINALS", "SCHIFFS ARE BANKER CRIMINALS", "MONARCH FINANCIAL RULE ENDS NOW", etc.

Unless we expose the ROOT CAUSE, the invisible ruling elite will still be there to do these things to us again another day. The important but lesser problems will get fixed properly once the ruling elite are gone and honest people are elected. Always aim to take down the very top peak of the pyramid....or nothing will ever change. EXPOSE THEM!! If the whole world knows who they are, they can't hide. Each country that is protesting, needs to look up their countries ruling elite names, illuminati names, NWO names and get them on as many signs as possible and show the whole world who they are! If we focus on this one idea, they won't be in power for much longer. Spread the word!! Don't do this by yourself! This has to be done en masse....if only a few do this, they'll be escorted away. But if tens of thousands do it at the same time, what are they going to do? They can't get all of us. Strength in numbers!

There are many more North American criminal ruling elite families that need to be exposed;

CLINTONS, WARBURGS, LEHMANS, MORGANS, SOROS, RUSSELS, COLLINS, RUMSFELDS, CHENEYS, GATES, KOCH BROTHERS, KUHN LOEBS, LAZARDS, VANDERBILTS, DUPONTS, MCDONALDS, DESMARAIS, WINDSORS, CAPETIANS, BORJAS, VATICAN BANK, LI'S, SAUDI ROYALS, MONSANTOS, and others....

EXPOSE THESE CRIMINAL RULERS!!!! They need to see their own names on tv.

Watch:

The Money Masters ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs

History of The Federal Reserve ~ Enlightening! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7757684583209015812

Your fellow human being

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

great post here are some names as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants and that is just the tip of the iceberg

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 12 years ago

Great list. Yes, you're probably finding the same thing as me. No 1 list has all of them listed, so I end up cross referencing them.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

oh yeah same scumbags and their relatives by blood or marriage for the most part always a stray rich man or politician to be corrupted later on though