Forum Post: So explain the motives...
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 8:20 a.m. EST by l31sh0p
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Block the Police, attack the police, then when his brethren come to his safety chant 'shame'.
Got it.
I dont know what you are seeing, but i saw one guy run up to the motorcycle, and the police went after that one guy while the rest of the protestors backed away. Kudos to them...
3 individuals block the officer, 2 assault him/his motorcycle. This is at least the 3rd or 4th time this has been caught on video, how many other times has it happened without evidence?
So out of hundreds of people, a tiny fraction behave badly... While i do think there are ordinary people who simply want mayhem, i am not so naive to as to think steps would not be taken to try to discredit the majority of peaceful protestors by hiring mercenaries to stir trouble...obviusly the hope would be to instigate a riot, so bravo to those who distance themselves, literally and figuratively, from violence.
I enjoy how anything and everyone that has a different opinion or thought process than OWS is a 'hired government lackey' or a troll.
People have different opinions you know. That's all a protest is; an opinion.
It should be a strategy, not ridiculous opinions.
Study history just a little bit... Even just focus on the 20th century and you will see the evidence of the interference by people paid to be interferring. I did not even hint at what you have twisted meaning to imply, but am commenting on the people in the video you posted. I acknowledged that individuals can choose to be violent, but i do think it is wothwhile to investigate who they are and how they ended up where they are.
Violence is not just a difference of opinion...it is an action that takes a legal protest into the illegal realm of riot, insurrection, and treason...
Try electing a new slate to congress in 2012. That takes work. Get off your OWS asses. Allow me to speak. We can win if we try now. The timing is perfect. You want to get bogged down with BS. OWS finally formed for reasons we all know about.. Repeating the same crap over and over and over is useless.
Just like when that woman died of a drug overdose, all of the occupiers shunned cameras. When women AND men get RAPED, you all want to solve it internally. When something bad happens; 'oh it couldn't have been us, it's someone trying to make us look bad'. That defense may work once, but it seems it is a daily occurrence.
You can hide your problems in the shadows, but they are still there.
Kinda like the banks. Out of millions of banks out there, the tiny fraction that behave badly give the rest a bad name. Hmm..
What millions of banks? Remember the whole "too big to fail" thing?
Local banks, Credit unions etc.
Um. That is why ows is behind transferring accounts to community banks and credit unions...because they are just all bad.
You are stirring the pot with a sieve... Im here for serious discussion. Good bye.
Thank you. Corzine/MF Global ripped off customer funds. II
read more -- http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
CNBC broadcasters reported that the CME Group is searching for $600,000,000 that vanished from customer segregated accounts that no one except Corzine had the power to rip off unless Corzine specifically involved other people. CNBC broadcasters actually believe that the $600,000,000 might be hiding someplace and might magically reappear from its hiding place. Also CNBC reported that the Obama appointed commissioner of the CFTC, Gary Gensler recused himself (after he spoke with Corzine) from his own job.
This will be the same as the NYC Judge and DA who protected Strauss-Kahn from a trial for raping the black hotel maid. They are going to protect ex NJ governor, ex US Senator, ex Goldman Sachs colleague Corzine from being arrested for his crime. If OWS sitting in the park near Wall Street (as if being blocks away from Wall Street gives them some knowledge) had any idea of why they are protesting, they would be screaming about the Corzine $600,000,000 crime and his privileged status by the FBI.
America has become a nation of dolts in a trance. The most powerful American leaders and their shills reporting on TV are ignorant crooks. Go back and read prior SCREWED AGAIN reporting about the CFTC and CME Group as it concerns the PIMCO fraud. The OWS protest actually believe that sitting and freezing on the ground in the park will magically force a happy ending for the misery of 50,000,000 Americans whose work is now being done by Chinese slaves. The 50,000,000 Americans have been told by the privileged to go back to school and learn a new occupation so they can return to the middle class life they had enjoyed.
I thoght they found that money in another bank already...Question remains, what was it doing there?
The money is gone forever. The report they found the money is 100% false. The accounts are segregated. Money doesn't walk off, money has no legs and brains. Money can only sit in an account until it is withdrawn. Corzine is guilty.
When will OWS people learn that the media is a giant conspiracy of liars. Read my blog. That's my reason for writing the actual stories on my blog.
I watch the media everyday to catch them in their propaganda lies. This needs to be a huge OWS attack. Don't keep throwing away my knowledge to help OWS win the protest.
Send my blog link to every email address, Facebook, etc to destroy the media. Don't sit in the park and freeze. The internet is the weapon they can't stop.
Fellow OWSers. Be cool. Those cops are only trying to keep order. Protest peacefully and follow any of the following advice you can. We have to do our part to reverse this obscene concentration of wealth.
Spend your money as wisely as possible. Especially in middle and lower class communities. Check the Fortune 500 list and limit your support of high profit/low labor industries (Hollywood, pro sports, energy, credit, pharmaceutical, cable, satelite, internet advertising, video, and music, cell phone, high fashion, jewelry, ect.). Cancel all but one credit card for emergencies only. Call the provider and demand a lower rate. Be persistent. You may get it. (By the way. I gave this piece of advice long before NBC. I'm not looking for kudos. I'm telling you that NBC is directly affiliated with the credit industry. They could have given you this piece of advice years ago. Instead, they stood by and allowed their parent company, sister companies, and network sponsors to RIP YOU OFF. Even now, they give the occasional 'good guy' financial advice only because they are pressured to do so. They carefully balance every piece of 'good guy' advice with their primary goal to GET YOUR MONEY. Which is why their 'good guy' advice is so often followed by a plug for one of their sister companies, sister channels, network sponsors, or coorporate partners. For example: They tell you to pay down your credit card debt. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. Then, they tell you to GET MORE CREDIT CARDS and use them. Bad advice. One week Jean Chatzky tells you to avoid the 'free credit report' scam because it is always followed by a monthly service charge. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. The following week she stands by as her paid fellow advisor Carmen Wong strongly implies for you to have your credit monitered on a monthly basis and praises a caller for doing so. Bad advice. This is actually a plug for one of their network sponsors, coorporate partners, or parent company. The praise is nothing but a psychological trick. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Don't take ANYTHING they say at face value. Instead, read between the lines. Carefully weigh every piece of 'good guy' advice given against their primary goal. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.). If you need a cell phone, then do your homework and find the best deal on a local pre-pay. You may be able to get one for as little as $10 a month. Don't text. The charge may seem low at the time but their profit margins are obscene. If you want home internet access, then check for a locally based provider. They can be found in nearly every city nationwide. Otherwise, use the least expensive big name provider, and share accounts whenever possible. If you need to search, then use the less popular search engines. They usually produce about same results anyway. Don't pay for any internet download. Their profit margins for such data transfers are obscene. Don’t pay to see any blockbuster movie. Instead, wait a few months and rent the DVD from a local store, borrow it, or buy it USED. Then loan it to a friend or family member. If you prefer the outing, then choose a film produced by the lesser known studeos with lower paid actors. If you want to see a big name game or event, then watch it in a local bar, club, or at home on network TV. Don’t buy any high end official merchandise and don’t support the high end sponsors. If its endorsed by a big name celebrity, then don’t buy it. If you can afford a new car, then make an exception for GM, Ford, and Dodge. If they don’t increase their market share soon, then a lot more people are going to get screwed out of their pensions and/or benefits. Of course, you must know by now to avoid those big trucks and SUVs unless you truly need one for its utility. Don’t be ashamed to buy a foreign car if you prefer it. Afterall, those with the most fuel efficient vehicles consume a lot less foreign oil. Which accounts for a pretty big chunk of our trade deficit. Its a reasonable trade-off. Anyway, the global economy is worth supporting to some extent. Its the obscene profit margins, trade deficits, and BS from OPEC that get us into trouble. Otherwise, the global economy would be a good thing for everyone. Just keep in mind that the big 3 are struggling and they do produce a few smaller reliable cars. Don’t frequent any high end department store, mall, or any business in a newly developed center or upper class community. By doing so, you encourage greedy developers, make them richer, and draw vital support away from industrial areas and away from the middle and lower class communities. Instead, support the local retailer and the less popular shopping centers. Especially in lower or middle class communities. If you can afford to buy a home, then do so. But go smaller and less expensive. Don’t get yourself in too deep and don’t buy into the newly developed condos or gated communities. Instead, find a modest home in a building or neighborhood at least 20 years old. If you live in one of the poorer states, then try to support its economy first and foremost.
Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors, coorporate partners, and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. In particular, high profit pharmaceuticals and excessive medical testing. These plugs are countless, calculated, and VERY well written. They have commercial brainwashing down to a science. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Get off the couch and take care of your own body the way nature intended. There is no substitute. If you must see a doctor, then DEMAND that he/she give you more than 5 minutes of their undivided attention. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Be prepared with written questions about your condition and get them answered one at a time. If they refuse, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe excessive medical testing, then ask if they personally own the equipment or if they are paid a commission for each test. If they find nothing new or signifigant, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe a pharmaceutical, then ask for a generic. Better yet, concider a change in lifestyle or simple tolerance. If they still recommend the name brand pharmaceutical, then ask about any financial ties or conflict of interest. If they get offended, then dispute their unreasonable charges and consider a new doctor. If you must drug away your sniffles, worries, jitters, aches, and pains, then at least do your homework. Be aware of the possible side-effects ahead of time. Don't be surprised to find yourself back a week or two later feeling worse. In which case, you should dispute their unreasonable charges. If you are diagnosed with another medical condition, then ask your doctor what he/she has done to rule out those possible side-effects. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't let any greedy doctor treat you like a number, make you wait an hour, or rush you out of their office. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't fall for this CRAP that doctors have no choice but to over-book their time or over-charge their patients because of a high overhead. ITS A LIE. YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The same goes for their bogus claim to over-test so many of their patients because they are afraid of missing something and being sued for it. THAT IS ANOTHER FLAT-OUT LIE. Afterall, if this were true, then it would only explain some of the unnecessary testing. NOT THE OBSCENE CHARGES. It also wouldn't explain their own financial ties directly to the manufacturers of said testing equipment. Thats right. Most doctors hold stock in the very same companies that produce that equipment. Its another conflict of interest. So don't fall for their CRAP. Demand their undivided attention and respect. Afterall, they took an oath. If you have the opportunity before being admitted, then check the record of your hospital. Check to see if they have been investigated or sued for providing unnecessary treatment, excessive medical testing, or fraudulent billing. Dozens have already been caught doing so. Do all of the above regardless of your coverage. Don't force your employer to cover the obscene and often fraudulent charges of a corrupt health care industry. By doing so, you make the problem worse. Keep your guard up when watching ANY talk show. These people are not your friends. They are not your advocates. They are paid actors hired to get your attention and your money. Some of them are also executive producers (Oprah Winfrey, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil.). Nearly every word, smile, and stupid joke is rehearsed ahead of time. Including those which take place so often during what appear to be 'technical oversights' (Today Show. Even their stage hands are mixed in behind the scenes so that you can hear them laugh at every stupid joke.). Its all fake. Its all calculated. These people are not trying to make the world a happy place. They are trying to entertain you only because their marketing studies have shown that you are more likely to drop your guard and support their sponsors. Nearly every segment is about marketing some over-priced product or service. They will use any excuse to plug a gadget, fashion item, travel destonation, credit card, university, drug, medical test, surgical procedure, movie, TV show, book, magazine, song, website, ect. Almost all of it over-priced. Almost all of it resulting in higher profits for their sponsors, partners, and parent companies. DON'T FALL FOR IT.
Big business is fine on occasion depending on their product, ethics, employment, profit margins, and profit sharing. Do your homework. If they are screwing up our economy or society, then don't pay them for it. If you want to support any legitimate charity, then do so directly. Never support any celebrity foundation. Don't be fooled by the sale of baby photos, lies about percentage of income donated, or praise from other well known public figures. Celebrity foundations are CRAP. They spend most of their funding on PR campaigns, exotic travel, and super high end accomodations for themselves. Thats right. Filthy rich public figures have been jet-setting the world in the name of 'humanity' for years. Riding in personal jets, staying in super-exclusive resorts, and living it up in exotic locations around the world the likes of which most people could never afford even if their lives depended on it. They bring along agents, advisors, publicists, hair, make-up, wardrobe, lighting, and photo crews who are also in it for themselves. They are paid six or seven figures for their part to schedule, manage, document, showcase, praise, and publicize the 'good will' of said public figures and their respective industries. Every possible expense is passed of as 'incidental' or 'necessary' and billed right back to some 'foundation' named after said public figure and/or respective industry. Every possible tax deduction is claimed. Which are incredibly vague and diverse thanks to our sold-out government. Deals are cut with major networks who agree to praise the 'good will' or 'humanitarian' effort of said public figures and plug their latest commercial project around the same time. Others from around the world pick up the story and save these industries billions in advertising every year. Resulting in higher profits and paychecks for the 1% club. When its all said and done more wealth is transfered from poor to rich. NOT the other way around. So don't support any charity named after a living celebrity. Don't be fooled or inspired by any photo you see in a magazine, any clip on TV, any affiliation, or any short term short sighted progress report. Instead, go to Charitywatch.org and look up a top rated charity to support your favorite cause. Its all there. For example: 'Habitat For Humanity' is a top rated charity. They have been for many years. They operate with a low overhead, volunteer workforce, and donated materials. They have built homes for the less fortunate in nearly every city nationwide. Including New Orleans. They do so as we speak. No similar effort can match their progress hour for hour or dollar for dollar. So there is no legitimate reason to support a slower, less efficient effort represented by a filthy rich Hollywood actor who flies in on a personal jet, takes most of the credit, and makes a deal with a major network for plugs just days before the premier of his latest film or DVD release. By doing so, you support not only the inefficient effort, but also the filthy rich actor. Concentrating more wealth and dumbing down our society further in the process. Instead, support 'Habitat For Humanity'. Its not perfect. It is affiliated with some big business. However, it is MUCH more efficient, effective, and less corrupt than 'Make It Right'. The difference is profound. In general, support the little guy as much as possible and the big guy as little as possible.
Original ideas supersede Ctrl+v. THINK instead of spewing the same inane garbage.
Now, I see. You're not trying to make OWS more peaceful. You're trying to discredit it entirely. That's why you're upset with me.
DEAL WITH IT.
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Gracious sakes what a witty and thought provoking retort, I must be weary of you from now on.
Gracious sakes. It was all that was necessary. Remember that the next time I brush off your lame psychological tricks. You can't intimidate or embarrass me. You just can't.
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I was looking for a response to my video and all I get was this hippie.
Read the first few lines of my first post.
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Constant bickering.