Forum Post: Smart 'ALEC' ; "Lobbyists, Guns and Money", by Paul Krugman (NY Times).
Posted 1 year ago on March 26, 2012, 3:47 p.m. EST by shadz66
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Recently a well respected 'forum-poster' linked to the following article, which deserves re-posting, hence :
OP-ED COLUMN : Lobbyists, Guns and Money,
by PAUL KRUGMAN ; Published: March 25, 2012.
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Florida’s now-infamous Stand Your Ground law, which lets you shoot someone you consider threatening without facing arrest, let alone prosecution, sounds crazy — and it is. And it’s tempting to dismiss this law as the work of ignorant yahoos. But similar laws have been pushed across the nation, not by ignorant yahoos but by big corporations.
Specifically, language virtually identical to Florida’s law is featured in a template supplied to legislators in other states by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a corporate-backed organization that has managed to keep a low profile even as it exerts vast influence (only recently, thanks to yeoman work by the Center for Media and Democracy, has a clear picture of ALEC’s activities emerged). And if there is any silver lining to Trayvon Martin’s killing, it is that it might finally place a spotlight on what ALEC is doing to our society — and our democracy.
What is ALEC? Despite claims that it’s nonpartisan, it’s very much a movement-conservative organization, funded by the usual suspects: the Kochs, Exxon Mobil, and so on. Unlike other such groups, however, it doesn’t just influence laws, it literally writes them, supplying fully drafted bills to state legislators. In Virginia, for example, more than 50 ALEC-written bills ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/opinion/the-big-money-behind-state-laws.html?_r=1 ) have been introduced, many almost word for word. And these bills often become law.
Many ALEC-drafted bills pursue standard conservative goals: union-busting, undermining environmental protection, tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy. ALEC seems, however, to have a special interest in privatization — that is, on turning the provision of public services, from schools to prisons, over to for-profit corporations. And some of the most prominent beneficiaries of privatization, such as the online education company K12 Inc. and the prison operator Corrections Corporation of America, are, not surprisingly, very much involved with the organization.
What this tells us, in turn, is that ALEC’s claim to stand for limited government and free markets is deeply misleading. To a large extent the organization seeks not limited government but privatized government, in which corporations get their profits from taxpayer dollars, dollars steered their way by friendly politicians. In short, ALEC isn’t so much about promoting free markets as it is about expanding crony capitalism.
And in case you were wondering, no, the kind of privatization ALEC promotes isn’t in the public interest; instead of success stories, what we’re getting is a series of scandals. Private charter schools, for example, appear to deliver a lot of profits but little in the way of educational achievement.
But where does the encouragement of vigilante (in)justice fit into this picture? In part it’s the same old story — the long-standing exploitation of public fears, especially those associated with racial tension, to promote a pro-corporate, pro-wealthy agenda. It’s neither an accident nor a surprise that the National Rifle Association and ALEC have been close allies all along.
And ALEC, even more than other movement-conservative organizations, is clearly playing a long game. Its legislative templates aren’t just about generating immediate benefits to the organization’s corporate sponsors; they’re about creating a political climate that will favor even more corporation-friendly legislation in the future.
Did I mention that ALEC has played a key role in promoting bills that make it hard for the poor and ethnic minorities to vote?
Yet that’s not all; you have to think about the interests of the penal-industrial complex — prison operators, bail-bond companies and more. (The American Bail Coalition has publicly described ALEC as its “life preserver.”) This complex has a financial stake in anything that sends more people into the courts and the prisons, whether it’s exaggerated fear of racial minorities or Arizona’s draconian immigration law, a law that followed an ALEC template almost verbatim.
Think about that: we seem to be turning into a country where crony capitalism doesn’t just waste taxpayer money but warps criminal justice, in which growing incarceration reflects not the need to protect law-abiding citizens but the profits corporations can reap from a larger prison population.
Now, ALEC isn’t single-handedly responsible for the corporatization of our political life; its influence is as much a symptom as a cause. But shining a light on ALEC and its supporters — a roster that includes many companies, from AT&T and Coca-Cola to UPS { http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/09/alec-corporations-are-big-spenders.html }, that have so far managed to avoid being publicly associated with the hard-right agenda — is one good way to highlight what’s going on. And that kind of knowledge is what we need to start taking our country back.
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fiat lux ...
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[This article is copied verbatim under "Fair Use" from : http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/opinion/krugman-lobbyists-guns-and-money.html?_r=1 ]
Here's some more on the "castle doctrine".
Is there anything good about ALEC?
http://becauseican-2old2care.blogspot.com/2012/03/alec-gun-owners-of-america-2nd.html
Nothing.
I've been looking for while and have yet to find a single good piece of legislation written by them.
Like the Council on Foreign Relations or the US Chamber of Commerce, they're just another working group of the 1%.
I was speaking of ALEC, but if you find one good piece of legislation written by the ones you mention, please post it............:)
They've all written "model" draft legislation at some point. ALEC is the one that got itself caught with their name still on the legislation. But they all do it and I see them all as working groups of the 1%.
There's nothing to argue there............:)
pLease don't hit me.....I'm bOOmer.............................LOL
Ha!
I'm not THAT bad! ;-)
You came on a bit hard, but I understood and concur with most of what you said.
I know some of those jerks......................:)
Thanks. :)
I'll deny we had this conversation should you require it in future. ;-)
Too late...I've recorded it and filed it in my OWS archives! :-)
Nice post. Sure to be a favored target for the trolls once they see that it is not going to fade away.
Good food for thoughtful consideration by the sane.
Thanks again for bringing good stuff to the table.
Trolls ?! I'll munch 'em for 'the lulz' !! Only problem is they stick in the teeth ... or is that 'craw' ?!!! ... and the indigestion - ooh, :-( ... ilol!
verum ex absurdo ...
Careful I've heard they are toxic worse than blowfish.
{:-O
They sure do sting on exit as well !
However, they do then end up in the right place !!
"Toxic" is Absolutely The Right Word, though, bro' !!!
caveat actor ...
LOL - survival and a following need for preparation-H, ouch. Strain on sewage treatment no doubt too.
But there's the hope that their 'broken down mulch' may nourish the 99.99% ...
because Resistance Is Fertile !!!
dum spiro, spero ...
LOL LOL
Good antibacterial E-coli killer?
Recommended use no stronger than .01% topical.
More stuff on castle laws.
The problems with it's interpretation are only just beginning.
http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Castle%20Doctrine.pdf
Again, thanx for this really solid link for people who are serious about these matters.
fiat lux ...
We can never have enough threads on the malfeasance of ALEC.
Thanks for another.......:)
http://www.politicususa.com/stand-your-ground-alec/
Thanx for the link, further to which I proffer this somewhat historic yet highly relevant video from http://www.democracynow.org/ :
"Secretive Corporate-Legislative Group ALEC Holds Annual Meeting to Rewrite State Laws" : http://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/5/secretive_corporate_legislative_group_alec_holds .
e tenebris ...
Let's keep ALEC high on our lists......................:)
They have become a monster in our democratic republic.
I concur. 'Lobbyists and Lobbying' have long been a major source of corruption and corrosion on the body politic of The U$A but 'ALEC' has taken this silent and creeping menace to the next level !
Is The U$A and more precisely it's long suffering 99.99% the victim of a 'slow motion' coup d'etat ?!!
et ... cui bono ?!!!
lobbyist should post their actions publicly
if they can lobby the congressman,
they can lobby the people
Lobbying needs reform, not destruction. It's a 1st amendment right for God's sake.
What's G0D got to do with it ? & That sounds like a 'Corporate Double Speak Talking Point' to me !
The "1st amendment right" was NOT ever by any stretch of any imagination, envisioned to be apply to anyone who was not a 'natural born person' !!
No matter how many 'Corporate Lawyer Dual Think Mendacities' you wish to employ and manipulate ...Corporations Are NOT People !!!
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veritas vos liberabit ...
I'm actually an athiest but "for God's sake" is just a saying. I never said corporations are people (they're not) but lobbying is still important.
Thanks for posting this, Shadz66.
For someone of Krugman's stature (whether you like him or not) to link back Trayvon Martin's death and the "Stand Your Ground" law to Alec and the Koch's, we'd be fools not to pay attention. The American people must take a stand and regain control over the direction this country is going in.
Succinctly true 'bw' !
The 'smart ALECs and KOCH's suckers' in American Politics have to be exposed and dragged out into the light, where they and their 'dark intentions' will wither in the Light of Love and Logic !!
Sorry for the language ... i'm feeling a tad belligerent !!!
fiat lux et fiat justitia ruat caelum ...
Great post, shadz. I say boycott all corporations with an obvious hard-right bias. These corporations consider the 'consumer' (their lifeblood, by the way) 'the enemy' and have said as much in internal memos and at board meetings, where they devise clever ways to suck yet another dollar out of our wallets. The (mostly) men that run these businesses are clinically insane.
'gno($i$)' : Boycott, Divestment & Sanctions ... will be an essential 'm.o.' in many social movements on myriad matters in future because http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7dBBCHYcZs !!
respice ; adspice ; prospice ...
With ALEC, it's not only about guns.
Is ALEC the real cancer of our Nation?
http://truth-out.org/news/item/8136-alec-climate-change-denial-model-bill-passes-in-tennessee
Not surprisingly, there's been a resurgence here of denialists.
Citing a op-ed by Krudman has no cred. He's an idiot. Nothing more than a Lefty ideologue who tends to wrong all the time.
All said whist your pre-programmed head is jammed far up your Corporate (x) !!!
Maan, that's quite a talent !!
D'you juggle too ?!
nosce te ipsum ...
The people have a Constitutional Right, AND EVEN OBLIGATION, to lobby/petition congress........ however, when doing so requires money, it is no longer democratic lobbying or petitioning, is is nothing more than Bribery.
Of course, it's admirable and honorable when done on behalf of the other side, at least that is what the majority of forum addicts here would like for everyone to believe. The other side only does it because the wrong side makes them.
So 'VP', further to your comment - what "other side" are you talking about ?!!!
Are you living in some kind of dualistic, 'Manichean' parallel reality where you believe that there is some kind of substantive and meaningful difference between "Republocrat and Demoblican" and between those who own and pay for them both ?!!
WTF kind of "Vantage Point" can you have with your 'Corporate Owned Head' jammed so far up your 'Corporation Loving' (x) ?!
So again : "No matter how many 'Corporate Lawyer Dual Think Mendacities' you wish to employ and manipulate ...Corporations Are NOT People !!!"
Geddit Mr. 'VP from NumptyCorp. Inc.' ?
et nosce te ipsum ...
Oh yes of course!
Just vote D/O and everything will be ok!
Seriously, it must be true, I've read it here countless times with R's actually acknowledging them as if their dominance of a corporate owned DC will cure things.
Now don't type ugly and hurtful things to or about me or I WILL cyber shove my massive fist and forearm about a foot down your esophagus.
So, V.P. of PR & BS from 'NumptyCorp.' - IS that a threat ?
Maybe you should learn to spell first before you get such ideas above your station !
Gnothi Seauton ...
Really Daddy? You will show proper respect for the CEO of the Planet, ME!
Now off your knees and stop suck polishing my jack boots.