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Forum Post: Who caused the death of Leola Anderson? Mitt Romney or Bishop Jean Vilnet?

Posted 2 years ago on June 2, 2012, 2:47 p.m. EST by OccNoVi (415)
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[Mitt Romney and Chappaquiddick. Google: Bishop Jean Vilnet -- you will find an exemplary life.]

Bishop Jean-Félix-Albert-Marie Vilnet. A.k.a., "Albert Marie" if you listen to Mitt Romney and his Team Lying gang.

Chappaquiddick, Massachusetts on July 18, 1969. The road between Bazas and Bernos-Beaulac, France on June 16, 1968.

Same difference. Two tragic deaths with major American presidential candidates driving. Romney's cover-up of his responsibility and his claim of a "three day coma" afterward are the dominant stories.

Bad driving, a car wreck, a woman killed, obscured and missing police reports, statements describing the aftermath to the incident that are implausible -- that is what we have for both drivers, Ted Kennedy and Mitt Romney.

Kennedy was driving his mother's Lincoln or his own Oldsmobile. Romney was driving a Citroen DS arranged by his boss. Thisa same man H. Duane Anderson was also the husband of the deceased.

Kennedy was not familiar with the island's roads or with the car. Romney was a new driver out for the first time driving that car and had never driven the Citroen DS.

Kennedy blamed no one but himself.

The car at Chappaquiddick was going slowly, maybe 15 or 20 miles an hour at the most, so Kennedy was not injured as the car slid off into the water. Kennedy has said that he tried to save Kopechne by diving back in to the water and swimming down to find her -- ultimately unsuccessful as the car was upside down and Kopechne was in the back seat. Descriptions of the aftermath to the accident were where plausible truth and media-aimed stories diverged at a rapid pace.

Romney injured, but only seriously with torn tissue in his right elbow in what was a moderate-speed head-on collision. Mormon sources say that French police at the scene wrote "Il est mort" in his passport. However, "La dame est morte" is more like it. Leola Anderson is the person who was dying. Photos of Mitt Romney in the Bazas hospital show him in a normal hospital bed on the Monday morning after the accident. He was never in the ICU. He was not monitored for coma. The evidence indicated that the "three day coma" claim published in "The Real Romney" is bogus.

One verified fact is that Romney was thrown out of the Citroen DS. Local witnesses saw him on the roadway.

Media coverage has been pitiful.

-- http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/11/article-2085412-0F6B762200000578-270_634x409.jpg

No one was charged in the Romney accident. The other driver was a Catholic priest, identified repeatedly in the statements of Romney and his friends as "Albert Marie, 46" was driving a Mercedes-Benz. Supposedly this bad driver was carrying his mother, identified as "Marie-Antoinette Marie," and a friend identified as "Marguerite Longué, 48."

We are unable to confirm any such priest with the name including "Albert Marie" with Marie as the surname and anything like the right birth date.

However, there was a close match to a priest born in 1922. That is, Bishop Jean-Félix-Albert-Marie Vilnet. Then there comes out a news photo of Mgr. Vilnet from 1969 from an investiture that certainly resembled one of the 1968 photographs from the Bazas hospital. (Boston Globe has that photo mislabeled.) Additional photos were obtained in France from the early 1970s and going back to the 1950s and early 1960s. On the photographic evidence and additional investigation with people who know him, this is Bishop Vilnet.

The other driver was Bishop Jean Vilnet. Then it turns out that he spoke with Andre Salarnier at the Bazas Hospital that same Monday morning after the accident. Both of them remembered it.

Bishop Vilnet had participated in the Second Vatican Council. From 1981 to 1987 he was president of the Council of Bishops of France. He had been a professor of theology and headed the university where the first Catholic fertility assistance was performed, getting involved to write standards allowing this procedure that were adopted generally.

He was used for international diplomacy by the Vatican, including rather tricky work that took him to Cuba for working out problems with Fidel Castro. He was an active bishop from 1964 to 1998. Today he is 90 and lives at Saint-Dié-des-Vosges.

-- http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7317464200_6aa546215e_z.jpg

This is hardly a man to get drunk, go off speeding, and kill a woman.

Today Romney says that he "believes there was a criminal proceeding against Marie (sic)." That most certainly did not happen. No criminal investigation was registered with the national police agency. Romney's passport had certainly not been annotated to say that he was dead -- that would have required a medical examiner or a coroner.

"We were all talking about how dangerous how the highways were and the French highways," Mr. Romney said, reported the Boston Globe in 2007. "Literally as we were having that conversation, boom, we were hit. It happened so quickly (that) there was no braking and no honking."

Romney's version is quoted in a NY Times piece from 2007:

"We were driving, as I recall, through a curvy section of road where the speed limit is very low - I can't remember what it is, but a very low speed limit - and suddenly there was a car in my lane that appeared so quickly around the corner or over the hill, I just don't recall the topography terribly well at this stage, but it happened so quickly that, as I recall, there was no braking and no honking - it was like immediate," Romney said. "My understanding was he ... had been passing a truck and the truck driver said he estimated his speed at about 120 kilometers, which is about 70 miles per hour. And so we had an immediate head-to-head kind of collision."

-- "My understanding" is a tell that Romney is lying.

-- The "truck driver" is nonexistent. Romney ascribes his big lies to others.

-- Check the photo of the two cars after the accident. Here's a photo of what happens to a Citroen DS after a real highway speed head-on collision:

-- http://flic.kr/p/c5SRyW

That road would not support driving at 120 kph under any circumstance. No such reports from any witnesses nor any truck driver were reported in local accounts. The accident did not occur on a "mountain road" either.

The various stories put out by Romney's supporters assert that Mgr. Marie was speeding and also that he was drunk. Both at the same time with his mother sitting beside him in the parish Mercedes.

As you might have guessed, no substantiation exists for either claim. This is a middle-aged bishop on a Sunday afternoon after mass with no record of bad driving and surely not a drunk.

No report by French media of the time -- including the virulently anti-clerical Left Wing press -- contains any complaint against the behavior of the priest.

No charges were filed. If the priest had been drunk and killed Leona Anderson, status as a priest would not have protected him. That is part of what the French Revolution was about.

No investigation was registered. No arrest was made. Routine statements were taken by local police and from there a special privately leased railroad train returned the survivors from the Anderson car to Paris four days later. Insurance paid for the Mercedes. Considering the general confusion of such an accident, there is no reason to expect that there would have been a different result -- no one was speeding and no one was drunk.

This model Citroen DS was susceptible to understeering because the rear wheels were set narrower than the front wheels -- 1295 mm vs. 1500 mm. The young Mr. Romney could easily have misjudged the roadway at the N524 and Rue de la Poste intersection. He was not likely to be comfortable with the Citroen DS's "mushroom" shaped brake pedal. When he saw the Mercedes 180 in the Left Turn lane ahead of him, he panicked.

Le Monde had a piece with quotes from an article they were provided saying it was published in Sud Ouest:

-- http://worldcrunch.com/mitt-romney-french-years/4838

“I was frightened of driving a car,” said Mitt Romney to the Boston Globe in 2007. “I had a sense of vulnerability I had not experienced before.” It is not clear why H. Duane Anderson chose to have Romney drive the car in the first place.

The Anderson's Citroen carried Romney, H. Duane and Leola Anderson, David Woods, and Suzanne and Bertin Farel.

Seems that a half-dozen events of Mitt Romney's life have resulted in cover-up operations. If it's not being at the wheel for this fatal automobile accident, then it's the state residency requirement in 2002 to run for Massachusetts governor, or it's using Bain to take a $60-million "fee" out of Ampad while arranging $100-million in loans prior to bankruptcy and stiffing the lenders and employees and the employee pension fund (dumped on the public insurance system.)

The Republicans checked out this guy 'bout the same as they checked out Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney. That is, they didn't do it. Republicans provide the same level of Self-Regulating Organization (SRO) operation that you see with the New York Stock Exchange.

Team Lying defeats the Republicans' current approach, apparently every time there's a serious test. Occupy Security's MMOG crew beat the Romney lies with six-weeks effort, then a couple months follow-up to get the details.

(Let's see if/when this post disappears off google and the other search engines.)

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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

A more interesting puzzle - why were Mormons the only ones given this missionary right to avoid military service ?

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

They were not. Either the only ones or to use missionary assignment as a means to avoid service. Altogether Romney got four deferments.

This was a delay. Then he went back to school. Then he stayed in school.

Bill Clinton got a high draft number. In the 300s. Lucky Bill.

Romney got a lucky 300 in 1970. He would have been expecting to avoid the draft at that point based on the lower draft calls.

No way, no how would he have been in infantry.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

They paid good money for that privilege!

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Romney's Dirty Tricks shops are continuing all-out interference with search engines and to a lesser extent with internet sites to minimize distribution of this story.

We have a couple dozen examples of search engine interference.

They are criminals. The political party of frat-boy thuggery.

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Romney's Dirty Tricks shops have taken up burglary to prevent wider distribution of this story.

-- Catholic.com was invaded recently with a summary posting eliminated along with the tag for "vilnet."

-- Bogus web pages appear that use logo and emulate catholicanswers forum presentation.

Welcome to the modern Republican Party. A lot like the party of Richard Nixon. Just as criminal, anyway.

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Pro-Romney users are doubling-down on the "drunk priest" "Albert Marie" tale.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApCZR10Y.8osj3Og8G_xAPAjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20120703150130AAKLHrN

We've got photos of Bishop Vilnet. He talked with Andre Salarnier in the hospital room.

They're still into denial. Lack of skills at critical thinking, weighing physical evidence.

It's either on irrational Appeal to Authority for these folks or nothing much in the way of thinking. Denial replaces weighing evidence.

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

This post appeared on the Google seearch for [ Bishop Jean-Félix-Albert-Marie Vilnet ] immediately.

-- Forum Post: Slandering Bishop Jean-Félix-Albert-Marie Vilnet from ... occupywallst.org/.../slandering-bishop-jean-felix-albert-marie-vilnet-...

Chappaquiddick, Massachusetts on July 18, 1969. The road coming out of Beaulac going toward Bazas, France on June 16, 1968. Same difference.


Let's see what happens.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

It will be necessary for people like us to spread this truth around. The MSM are not going to go there in any serious way.

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

A documentary is in the works. Plan's for a 7 to 10 minute investigative piece similar to teevee news magazines. Also, timing matters. We certainly want to see Mr. Romney nominated at the convention and the campaign to get back in full swing before this comes comes out in a big way.

DVDs are dirt cheap to copy and hand out.

Facebook has an Occupy Security page that serves well enough as a comm center.

Personally, I think that the lying is a bigger story than the accident. Missing the turn and slamming the Mercedes was a one-off error. The kid wasn't much of a driver. Lying about this for 44 years ??? That's off in Aaron Burr territory.

The lying goes a mile wide and a mile deep.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Yes, anyone could have had an automobile accident as you say. The lying is what all the fuss should be about. Lying about everything - that's Mormonism in a nutshell. Well meaning people are brainwashed into thinking that any criticism of any religion is bigotry and equivalent to white supremacism. That's so wrong.

The White Horse Prophecy would explain the determination of the Mormons to put their man over the top.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

From Salt Lake Trib:

Romney says he doesn't believe in the supposed prophecy, nor did his father when he ran.

"I haven't heard my name associated with it or anything of that nature," Mitt Romney told The Salt Lake Tribune during an interview earlier this year. "That's not official church doctrine. There are a lot of things that are speculation and discussion by church members and even church leaders that aren't official church doctrine. I don't put that at the heart of my religious belief."

The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy.

"You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed," the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. "It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber."

Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.

"Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion," the prophecy says.


Saying that he does not put the prophesy at "the center" of his beliefs implies that it resides somewhere else in his beliefs.

"Lying for the Lord," however, is right in there at the center of Mormon commands to saints and especially to missionaries. Joseph Smith adopted the Muslim view of Almighty God that places Jesus apart as a separate entity. That is a central tenet of Mormonism. This change is always lied about in communication with Christians.

The published Book of Mormon is also changed to suit current social mores. Grammar and spellings have also been corrected hundreds of times. Interesting processes.

Romney comes from a religion where truthfulness is not taken to mean adherence to facts, but rather submission. The SLC hierarchy are not to be criticized. Meanwhile the Mormon claim is that they do not criticize other Christian sects, yet they teach these things as official doctrine:

-- Joseph Smith claimed that he had seen both God the Father and Jesus Christ and asked which church he should join: "none... for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19)

-- "Will all be damned but Mormons?" Smith replied, "Yes, and a great portion of them unless they repent and work righteousness" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 119)

-- "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil" (Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10)

-- LDS church is, "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased ...." Brigham Young The Doctrine and Covenants (1:30)

Mormonism believes itself apart from Christian religions. One other description that recurs is that the other sects are eggs from Hell, hatched and sent out into the world.

Helluva way to harness a population of captive believers, but these are ideas that would have to be concealed completely to function in the world. Baptists seem to think that Hell is going to have a huge population -- parallel to the Left Behind series, all 16 volumes and counting. "Lying for the Lord" is a tool for social control.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

'Romney says he doesn't believe in the supposed prophecy, nor did his father when he ran. ' "Romney Says" is the problem. the guy wouldn't know the truth if it fell on top of him. He lies like a Mormon.

http://nomormonpresidentnomittromney2012.blogspot.com/2012/06/white-horse-prophecy-mormons-mobilized.html

Upon completion of his foreign mission, he immersed himself in the 1970 senatorial campaign of his mother, Lenore Romney, who was running against Phillip Hart in the Michigan general election. That same year, the Cougar Club — the all male, all white social club at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City (blacks were excluded from full membership in the Mormon church until 1978) — was humming with talk that its president, Mitt Romney, would become the first Mormon president of the United States. “If not Mitt, then who?” was the ubiquitous slogan within the elite organization. The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.

Romney avoids mentioning it, but Smith ran for president in 1844 as an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church. He had predicted the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong” — a leader who would “set in order the house of God” — and became the first of many prominent Mormon men to claim the mantle.

Smith’s insertion of religion into politics and his call for a “theodemocracy where God and people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” created a sensation and drew hostility from the outside world. But his candidacy was cut short when he was shot to death by an anti-Mormon vigilante mob. Out of Smith’s national political ambitions grew what would become known in Mormon circles as the “White Horse Prophecy” — a belief ingrained in Mormon culture and passed down through generations by church leaders that the day would come when the U.S. Constitution would “hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber” and the Mormon priesthood would save it.

Romney is the product of this culture. At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the “One Mighty and Strong.” He was the “alpha male” in the rarefied Cougar pack, according to Michael D. Moody, a BYU classmate and fellow member of the group. Composed almost exclusively of returned Mormon missionaries, the club members were known for their preppy blue blazers and enthusiastic athletic boosterism. Romney, who had been the assistant to the president of the French Mission where he was personally in charge of more than 200 missionaries, easily assumed a leadership position in the club.

[-] 0 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

There's something strange about that web site.

Anti-Mormon, but not interested in details of current actions. Vaguely slanderous.

You get more accurate descriptions of what is going on with Deseret News.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I don't understand your hostility to that website. It is anti mormon as you say just by telling the truth about mormonism one has to end up an "anti". It addresses Romney's seeming pathological disconnect with truth. It addresses the death of the French Bishop. In the Deseret News you found Romney's disavowal of the White Horse prophecy. What the hell else would he and they say? He's ducking and weaving on what Mormonism is and his place in it. Gotta give him some credit for showing up at the NAACP - but maybe no- maybe that was to get a soundbite of a room full of "the seed of Cain" booing him to throw as red meat to his natural base, which is hardly only Mormon.

[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

The wedding of Mitt Romney with the Republican Party is set for the week of August 27, 2012.

Cult leader marries cult.

Répondez s'il vous plaît !

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

It looks like the White House operatives have settled for now on The Romney didn't quit Basin, lied to the SEC and won't show his taxes line of attack. In my opinion still boils down to this: Romney among all else that he is, is a lying ass mormon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl2DWZz2fBQ&feature=plcp

[-] 0 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

No call for Mormon-bashing.

I think they can win by playing vids of Romney singing -- all full of himself while off pitch and out of rhythm.

Romney sings without listening to himself.

[-] 3 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Romney is the perfect picture of a lying for the lord mormon. Mormonism is a threat. At this minute 60,000 mormon missionaries are giving two years of their lives to spread their racist lying fascistic political cult. With your kind permission, I object.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Similar to Scientology to be sure.

The Scientologists have cooler toys in their fables.

But still, most Mormons are Mormons because their parents were Mormons. I'm not use that many of them are bad people.

The pattern of lying to "Gentiles" is what is going to flatten Romney. That and killing Mrs. Anderson.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Membership in a money grubbing right wing racist cult that has discipline matters to society as a whole. At this moment as we speak 60,000 fanatical teen aged members are sacrificing - sacrificing two years of their lives at their own expense to spread the cult of deception (and if things are proven about Romney's finances grand theft too). I'm sorry but I think this matters to society, especially but not only to those billions of people deemed to be marked by their earth god as cursed with dark skin.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Doonesbury is doing a series on Romney in France.

If Gary Trudeau depicts the Mittster driving head-on into Bishop Vilnet, drinks are on us!

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

"The Real Romney" is his authorized biography.

Claim: Mitt was in a "three day coma" and barely survived. Also that a policeman wrote "Il est mort" -- "He is dead" in his passport.

POOR MITT ALMOST DIED !! That damn drunk priest coming out of Mass.....

And it didn't happen. We have photos of Mitt in a ward bed Monday morning, 17 June 1968. That's the morning after the accident.

Damn, what a liar. He lies about everything and to everyone. That's called a "fabulist," pronounced fab-yu-list.

Cheney, Palin, now Romney. Wow !!

[-] 1 points by progRobo (-30) 2 years ago

Obama did it

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Perfect for Bullshit Mountain.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Mrs. Anderson's obituary in the Ogden Standard-Examiner from that Monday, 17 June 1968, tells us that Mitt Romney was not in a coma. He is reported to have "minor head injury" which shows in photos as not requiring a bandage.

-- http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/7939380748_50ef47aac8_b.jpg

Text:

Wife of French Mission President Dies in Crash

Mrs. Leola S. Anderson, 57, wife of H. Duane Anderson, president of the French Mission of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, was killed Sunday in a head-on collision near Bordeaux.

Pres. Anderson, 55, suffered eight broken ribs and a broken wrist in the accident.

Willard (Mitt) Romney, 21, son of Governor George Romney of Michigan, who is serving as a missionary in France and who was driving the car, suffered minor head injuries and torn ligaments to one elbow. He was expected to leave hospital in about two days.

IN THE WRONG LANE

A spokesman at the LDS mission in Paris said the party was traveling from Bordeaux to Pall (sic, correctly "Pau" pronounced "poe") on church business when their car collided with an auto that was traveling at high speed in the wrong lane.

The accident occurred in the village of Bazas, 35 miles southeast of Bordeaux. Mrs. Anderson died two hours after the accident.


President and Mrs. Anderson were both professors at San Bernardino Valley College at San Bernardino, Calif., before he was named the French Mission president in May 1967.

Biographical information follows. They had been married in 1936. She was a BYU grad and did grad work at University of California (campus not identified.) Her academic specialty was English.


Romney was already blaming the other driver. A lie for every occasion.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Copies of 1968 obituaries of Mrs. Leola Anderson are on the internet. The most interesting detail of these news items, dated Monday, June 17th 1968, was that Mitt Romney's condition is reported as "minor head injury" with expectation that he would be released in two days.

-- farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/7939380748_50ef47aac8_b.jpg

This contradicts the Team Lying statements that have Romney in a coma for two days and "Il est mort" written in his passport. The accident had occurred on the afternoon of Sunday the 16th.

Of course Romney & Team lie. They believe in lying to ordinary citizens.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

The key is mailers and door-hangers. By the millions and aimed to Catholic and Fundie households.

And congratulations to Paul Ryan. Mitt thinks you're the cure for this Beaulac-Chappaquiddick scandal.

Good luck with that.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Romney is being analyzed as an Alzheimer's patient, a pathological liar, or as someone who does not know fact from fiction.

Thankfully, CGI will allow this wreck to be replayed on YouTube.

The Romney candidacy-wreck, that's going straight to the history books.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

now the president won't have to make any changes

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

"Honey pot" entries of this information at other web sites are attracting interesting wingnut responses.

Catholic, Mormon and NASCAR oriented sites, particularly, draw immediate "bees" seeking to remove the content.

Tough message: Beaulac 1968 = Chappaquiddick 1969 + the cover-up.

Amazing how the righties lie to attack Democrats, but reading the truth about their own people is more than they can bear.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

The recent news here is that Romney's crew contacted the Salarniers and requested that they not speak to press concerning the June 16th 1968 fatal accident.

Le Monde has that quote in their article here:

http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-americaines/article/2012/03/07/les-tribulations-d-un-mormon-en-france_1652481_829254.html

Over forty years later, André and Paulette Salarnier , Mormons whose French coq au vin and crepes filled with mushrooms often regaled the young Mitt Romney, say that they have received emails from those close to the candidate for the Republican nomination asking them to no longer speak to journalists concerning the 1968 accident.

Stubborn facts, again. The "drunk priest" "Albert Marie" tale started unraveling with the photo of the two cars, then fell to pieces when Bishop Vilnet was identified.

The term "de proches" can mean family. In context, here, it more likely means the close political entourage that supports Mitt Romney's candidacy.

These efforts to silence the Salarniers raise yet another question. Who sent them the emails ??? We know that selling the tale depends on Team Lying -- how many players are there on this team?


Une route nationale qui serpente dans la campagne bordelaise, un virage serré à l'entrée du village de Bernos-Beaulac devant un bureau de poste rural. C'est dans ce paysage banalement français que, le 16 juin 1968, a failli s'arrêter net la carrière de Mitt Romney, probable adversaire de Barack Obama et potentiel futur président des Etats-Unis. Une Mercedes a déboulé en sens inverse et a manqué le tournant. Elle a heurté "de plein fouet" la DS 21 conduite par le jeune missionnaire mormon Romney, alors âgé de 21 ans, "fils du gouverneur du Michigan aux Etats-Unis", précise à l'époque le quotidien Sud Ouest.

Sur le coup, un gendarme écrira : "Il est mort" sur le passeport du jeune prosélyte américain. En réalité, Mitt Romney s'en tirera avec un bras cassé. Mais Soeur Leola Anderson, l'épouse du président de la mission mormone de Paris Duane Anderson, lui-même blessé, laissa sa vie dans l'accident.

L'Eglise de Jésus-Christ des saints des derniers jours (LDS - Latter-Day Saints - en anglais, nom officiel des mormons) affréta un wagon spécial pour ramener à Paris son dirigeant ainsi que le "fils du gouverneur" quatre jours plus tard. "Fait exceptionnel à la gare Saint-Jean, (...) deux ambulances ont été autorisées à se garer sur le quai no 1 afin de déposer deux grands blessés de la route dans le train de Paris", rapporte encore Sud Ouest. Après le drame, "j'ai eu peur de conduire, a déclaré Mitt Romney au quotidien Boston Globe en 2007. J'éprouvais un sentiment de vulnérabilité que je n'avais pas ressenti auparavant". ... Plus de quarante ans après, André et Paulette Salarnier, des mormons français dont le coq au vin et les crêpes fourrées aux champignons ont souvent régalé le jeune Mitt Romney, affirment avoir reçu des courriels de proches du candidat à l'investiture républicaine leur demandant de ne plus parler aux journalistes de l'accident de 1968. Ils se souviennent seulement d'"un garçon ouvert, séduisant, parlant français presque sans accent".

André Salarnier s'empresse même de désamorcer toute médisance à propos du fameux coq au vin, a priori interdit aux buveurs d'eau que sont les mormons et qui pourrait ébranler le récit officiel d'un Mitt Romney fidèle à ses convictions : "Le vin était cuit, il ne contenait plus d'alcool." Pas question de laisser imaginer que "Mitt" ait pu être corrompu par les Français et leur bordeaux.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

Strange, strange stuff in the historical interviews. The base story moved all over the lot.


NY Times

-- www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/world/europe/24iht-24Romney.6300715.html

The trip to Pau began in Paris, where the Andersons, known to Mormons by the titles "president" and "sister," got into the Citroen DS, the best of several cars owned by the French mission. Some of the missionaries, including Romney, had thought Anderson should drive a Mercedes, which was considered a better car, but Anderson had wanted to use a car made in the country of the mission, and the DS was the best French car on the market at the time.

The couple had Romney, who had just moved into the grand manse in Paris that served as the mission headquarters and was Duane Anderson's junior assistant, serve as their driver. They also brought a second staffer, David L. Wood, a 21-year-old from Salt Lake City who was serving as mission coordinator.

The Paris foursome stopped in Bordeaux on the way south to pick up a French Mormon couple, Bertin and Suzanne Farel. Bertin Farel was the president of the Bordeaux district for the Mormon church, with oversight responsibility for a variety of church branches in the region.


Including this David L. Wood gets to be a mystery. Then, later on, he makes a claim that he received a settlement which would have come from Bishop Jean Vilnet. No such settlement occurred.

Confusion is a major weapon for liars. Appeal to ignorance... works.

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[-] -1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

and has no platform

just like the other guy

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 2 years ago

More on the accident scene. Apparently not at all what Romney and Friends describe. The accident was caused by Romney not understanding the rules of the road -- leaving his one-lane right-of-way and entering the left turn lane of a two-lane on-coming traffic flow.

100% his fault. Lucky the Mercedes had slowed to make the left turn.

Ted Kennedy's worst driving plus John Edwards's lying = Mitt Romney and this car wreck and slithering out of responsibility.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Romney is not responsible for anything
thats why we should vote for him

[-] 0 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Obama did it