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Forum Post: Skull-fracture of 24-year old Iraq Veteran by police at #OccupyOakland

Posted 8 years ago on Oct. 26, 2011, 5:27 p.m. EST by escort (126)
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This is completely unacceptable. I am beyond outrage.

His name is SCOTT OLSEN.

http://www.occupyr.com/News/thread.php?id=337

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[-] 3 points by Idaltu (662) 8 years ago

In 1962, John F. Kennedy famously said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[-] 2 points by Jonas541 (72) 8 years ago

Absolutely!

[-] 2 points by hollypuke (21) 8 years ago

YES.

[-] 2 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

There will be more incidents just like this!! MANY more!!

They mean to provoke us into rolling out a complete police state!!!

DON'T RIOT! DON'T become violent! That's what they want.

These are intentional provocations: kettling women, attacking disabled people, hurting veterans. Don't you see?

Why would they provoke? To declare martial law and really ramp up the violence.

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 8 years ago

Its a CONSPIRACY by the corp execs. to make OWS look bad!

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 8 years ago

I'm glad someone can see the trees from the forest. These are absolutely intentional provocations. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Be there for sure; but NO violence!! Cheers

[-] 2 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

Don't pay any attention to IMSoPoor he is a major troll

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 8 years ago

Trolls don't bother me ..... kinda like to see them spew. Thanx for the heads-up

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

It will get worse too - they will hire agents provocateurs to attack the police, put it on the media and besmirch the OWS protestors.

Actually, what we need to do is have absolute vigilance and zero tolerance for violence amongst the protestors, period. I think they have discussed this issue at length though - and whatever 'leaders' there are in the Assemblies agree that there will be no violence.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 8 years ago

Most people don't know about this - but they've been preparing for a long time now - New Executive Order Signed by Obama Effectively Creates Structure of Military Governors for Martial Law

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Hawk/100112.Obama.EO.html

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/01/alert-obama-signs-martial-law-executive-order/

FEMA camps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxd_hsiZ1Ak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

Rex 84: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ

NorthCom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwM-lrFLN6s

IMO the writing is on the wall ---- we just have to open our eyes and NOT play into their hands. Cheers

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

I don't know if I can just stand by and watch.

From a US Navy Seal, in the book The Heart and The Fist:

"Without courage, compassion falters, and without compassion, courage has no direction. All the aid in the world won’t help if a warlord can walk in uncontested and take it away."

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

Yes, but we have the numbers.

We have two choices in response to their violence:

1) become violent in return

2) remain peaceful

If we become violent, we will 1) escalate the conflict to give them an excuse to shoot the crowd / beat people; 2) more importantly: lose the support of the American people and the moral high ground; 3) ultimately lose because they will bring in the military; as well 4) people will get killed - the revolution turns bloody.

If we remain peaceful, we will 1) make it much more difficult for the police to escalate violence; 2) only recruit still more Americans to OWS' cause every time this type of police brutality goes viral; and 3) ultimately prevail because we have the NUMBERS.

The only way the 1% can ultimately control the 99% is by force.

However, it's easy for the 99% to control the 1%. Primarily by non-compliance, nonviolent resistance, and civil disobedience. Ultimately, the tiger that is America has been awakened, and probably isn't going back to sleep for a long time after this.

If 99% of people don't pay their taxes, don't comply with unjust laws, don't feed the system, what can the 1% do?

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

We need to escalate.

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

Why, so they have an excuse to kill people? We won't win, because we'll lose the support of the American people. As of right now, more are in favor of OWS than not. But that will only continue as long as we take the moral high ground and do not become violent.

[-] 2 points by RainyFloaty (11) 8 years ago

I know. I saw what happened to those people and I wanted to scream, It makes me so angry.

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

Me, too.

But it is vital to the success of OWS that it remain peaceful, nonviolent resistance. It is the only way.

They are provoking on purpose.

[-] 2 points by jph (2652) 8 years ago

It is like they never herd of Kent State.

That don't sound good,. the dude is on a respirator.

[-] 2 points by MJMorrow (419) 8 years ago

Do report abuses to the FBI and your State police. I went to the FBI over criminal police activity and the New York State police and FBI came to my side. The police looking to violate my rights are now prisioners. Amen! Turn over all evidence of Police brutality to the FBI and to your State Police. You may be pleasantly surprised....

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

And try and find a way to consolidate the responses from them where others can see the effect, one way or the other.

[-] 2 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

uneblievable

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

Horrific

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

Not acceptabel

[-] 1 points by CarryTheGripsUpToTheAttic (133) 8 years ago

Follow the police, gently plead with them to help us. It's not illegal to talk with them! Encourage them to leak docs and info. about these crackdowns.

Even if it doesn't work, their superiors will be less likely to send them into action against protesters like this!!

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 8 years ago

Talk to them about the future! They have children, too. They are part of the 99%.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 8 years ago

He fought for is country here and abroad. The sacrifices he makes.

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

this is insane

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 8 years ago

I agree - This is unacceptable, but expect a lot worse.

Here is an idea for change that I like: http://www.osixs.org/Rev2_menu_commonsense.aspx Cheers!

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 8 years ago

Best wishes to Scott for a full and fast recovery. The 99% are with you.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 8 years ago

The cops are claiming that the explosions seen on video after the police throw canisters are due to OWS firecrackers.