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Forum Post: Should we do something about gulag schools?

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 24, 2012, 10:15 a.m. EST by bigbangbilly (594)
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Should we do something about gulag schools? They are Orwellian and some of them somehow endorsement from the us gov. Information is here just scroll down after you load the page http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm

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[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Does anyone notice that this is an immoral way to make money?

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

CEDU was a private boarding school network for at risk or emotionally disturbed kids. It used particular approach to therapy that was thought to be effective among some circles. "Confrontation" therapy has its place, but to run an entire school on its basis (let alone an entire course of therapy) is insane, and to do so with staff that have no certification of any kind as therapists, unqualified to diagnose, let alone treat these kids is borderline illegal. Most of the schools have been shut down. Some, unfortunately, have reopened under different directors. But I don't see how OWS has anything to do with that.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

If they say it works here they might try it here.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

It has been nearly completely discredited. I don't think there is a need to fear. And I can't see how it is possibly an OWS issue. It has nothing to do with Wall Street.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Did you forgot that this movement have no set goals either? This can be included.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

This movement is called Occupy Wall Street for a reason. It is about economic inequity and the corroding influence of money and power on democracy. It has taken action on a variety of fronts, from shutting down ports controlled by banking interests to occupying foreclosed homes to staging extended occupations of Wall Street, protesting in front of the nation's capitol, and so on.

Despite the diversity of actions, and a refusal to make specific demands or set a single agenda, there is a clear connection to everything it does. We know, therefore, what the movement is about.

Warnings about a particular private school group is not among those things. I say that not to belittle the damage done to kids by this school, but simply to point out that it is not within the scope of a movement that is about Wall Street.

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[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

Charlotte Iserbyt: The Dumbing Down of America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqfiDiJIPI

Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they're told.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

The you tube video is a bunch of conspiracy theory crap.

That said, there has been a concerted effort on the part of the right wing to damage public education by teaching to tests and set up programs to defund it.

The reasons have nothing to do with what the video claims, nor is it some nefarious conspiracy, but a very public and misguided political ideology that favors the wealthy. No fictitious, shadowy "illuminatti" are necessary. Real stupidity, seen by all in the clear light of day, has been enough.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

I should had asked what does that have to do with my post?

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Absolutely nothing. I was responding to Renaye's post above.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

The fact that Reagan was elected in the first place demonstrates that American education had already failed by then.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (19203) 2 years ago

Or succeeded for some people....

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Sure, the ones who didn't vote for him.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (19203) 2 years ago

I was thinking more about the elite who want to keep the masses down. They want a poor education system.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Oh, absolutely. The entire continuing push to teach for tests is a prime example. The push for private school vouchers is also a concerted effort (originally championed by Milton Freidman) to defund and destroy public education. The insistence on favoring charter schools, when they perform worse, on the whole, than public schools, is another part of it.

This OP is not news to me: I have seen this coming since 1980.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

There are others could be unaware of that situation.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

My comment was not to disparage the OP, but simply to say that there have been many hundreds of thousands of us aware of this for a long time. We have been vilified for it. We're called teachers.

I'm glad others are finally beginning to wake up to what some of us have been screaming for years.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (19203) 2 years ago

All well said.

[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 2 years ago

I know OWS shouldn't be about patting each other on the back for confirmation, but THANK GOD there are people who understand that this is a big part of the elite goals for our kids. Compliant, non-thinking, do what you're told, don't ask questions, robot kids who grow up to be unhealthy, unthinking, consumer zombie slaves for the 0.1%. Thanks.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (19203) 2 years ago

Thanks to you, too. This is a huge issue for our nation. Parents need to wake up.

[-] -1 points by DieNachthexen (103) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Free public school education is a joke-just look at some of the posts right here on this forum. I'm astounded by the misinformation accepted as fact.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Where is the misinformation in my post?

[-] 1 points by DieNachthexen (103) from New York, NY 2 years ago

not referring to you specifically