Forum Post: Send China a Message.. and get our jobs back here
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 6, 2011, 6:10 p.m. EST by ThirdParty2012
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Support the bi-partisan currency bill.. should clear the senate tonight... this is hugely important
I honestly would love to see this go through, namely because it's a first step toward bringing good solid blue-collar jobs back to this country, especially in areas hit the hardest.
If whe whant to leave on a Global World, Jobs will go to where people needs more to work and where the Jobs are made more eficiently.
Im not contrary to buy local, to make my country (wich ever it is , really doesnt matter wich country is) but Im against too much control.
Humans cant do all their need localy on a eficient way. So there is nothing wrong to let each country to do what they best know to do.
If you need more jobs, look carefully the causes jobs has gone... to much money pay... expensive cost of leaving... expensive logistic for the product made... expensive energy consum ... expensive taxs on chain of products....
Countrys can make a small interference like closing costums,over taxing products, but on large time, that will make that locals on the country will not be able to get some goods, or them will by expensive or of bad quality , becasue local are not capable of making same products.
Already there is a gap, that should balance, the oil price is higher so transports prices are high, so a country must be very bad doing something than even doing it local, a foregin 10.000km away can do it cheapers.
I agree with you 100% except when trading partners resort to cheating. China is cheating not just the US but every trading partner.
What type of cheating ?? How to mesuare a "cheat" when for sample Union forces around the world are diferents, laws on work force or comerce are diferent. Even culturals aspects of comerce are diferent. Needs of people are diferent.
Can you say a African worker is cheating because he only is beeing payed 2 dolar per day?? Africa will be the next cheater? only the lack of energy has stop them.
There are NO jobs coming back from overseas.
The United States is now a VERY anti--business environment of which to operate. No manufacturing jobs are EVER coming back to employ non-skilled workers.
To open a factory in the United States today requires years of governmental bureaucratic red tape on numerous levels. Years of law suits from environmental groups.
In China, their government will help you set up a factory and even help get you the employees. It can be done in a matter of months, not years.
This is all the doing of liberals. All over decades of liberal policies and government largess.
You live in La-La land if you think manufacturing jobs are ever coming back to this country.
Very anti-business = demanding a living wage.
So the Republicans who say "stop taxing the job creators" sounds confusing to me if the jobs are being created out of this country.
Manufacturing jobs have been bleeding out to foreign countries like China.
Service jobs are still here. Research jobs are still here. Finance and Investment jobs are still here.
However, those jobs pay well but require degrees in difficult disciplines like business, science and engineering.
You can't blow money on a useless Liberal Arts degree and expect a high paying job.
Or in my situation, Mechanical Engineering? You forgot tech jobs are in jeapordy too because of internet.
Mechanical Engineering jobs are available in this country. Perhaps not where you live, but they are available.
You might have to move to get a good paying job..... but then again that was always the case. People always moved because of jobs and job availability. That is nothing new.
I wish you luck.
Here is a novel Idea... Stop buying stuff made in China. Buy stuff made in the USA. I have found all kinds of products online which are the same price or less than the stuff made in China and it is all made in the USA...
So if I buy for example an Ipad, is that an American product or a Chinese product? with other words, do the chinese workers earn a lot of money or the shareholders of Apple? So why does Apple produces these products in China? Why not in the US? Do I have to stop buying those products?
I'm not sure. Money might go to the American Side of it (Coorperation) but the labor was probably China.
Seriously...I designed for American Auto Companies (GM, Ford, Chrysler). So much of that crap was outsourced to Mexico and Canada. Now, the engineering part of it is located in India.
That's a great idea but all our stuff is manufactured overseas now.
That can quickly change
Yup, too bad the stores don't stock it. Old man Walton is rolling over in his grave.. anyone remember the old Walmart "Bring it Home" campaign?
That's a great bill needing passed. Just hope it doesn't start a war or China all of a sudden wants us to "pay up."
But I have been saying this all along that punishment needs to be upon the companys who shipped employment out of the country too. Why not punish these companies with a tariff tax on their product trying to be shipped back into America?
It will hit all products coming from China..
The only way good paying jobs are going to return here is if the CORPORATE tax rate(federal level) is reduced. Currently it is around 40%(the highest in the world).
I can go along with that, Eric. Don't tax the people who got rich, tax their company's product. For them to remove working class jobs to foreign lands should be nailed with a tariff tax to sell back in this country.
Does that seem fair? Now, they might reconsider being true "job creators" and re-open manufacturing plants they abandoned in America.
What's interesting is that many companies are now apparently moving back from China because it seems many of the Chinese factory workers after having tasted some wealth are no longer satisfied to work for slave labor wages, so it's back to the US where they will hope to find some more slave labor wage workers . . . one of the reasons why they will never clamp down on illegals aliens either. If Americans won't work for those low wages, they'll import foreigners to do it.
I think Japan still has a higher corporate rate than we do. We're #2.
But the truth is that American corporations use subsidies, shelters, loopholes, and special breaks that other countries don't offer to pay about as much in taxes as most other industrial countries do...sometimes far less.
Get rid of corporate welfare first, then I might agree with you that the corporate rate should come down.
Fair point, although I believe the bulk of that corporate welfare goes to the really big guys ---GE being a perfect example. Payed no taxes last year I believe. Unbelieveable. And they wonder why people are disgusted.
Not. That is a lie. Read, eric1, read!
What is a lie? Don't confuse corporate tax rates with INDIVIDUAL tax rates on the wealthy. Two totally different animals.
Agreed !!!