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Forum Post: Senate signs bill that Strips Bill of Rights -- Serious

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 5, 2011, 9:04 a.m. EST by CitizensNetwork (3)
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The Senate quietly signed the National Defense Authorization Act, declaring the US a Battleground and having the ability to detain US Citizens indefinitely without trial. This MUST NOT BE SIGNED INTO LAW.




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[-] 1 points by whisper (212) 12 years ago

It would be more effective to introduce language into the constitution limiting the role of government solely to the protection of individual rights, as it should have been in the first place (Read the Declaration of Independence).

[-] 1 points by elias25 (1) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

this bill will never pass because if it does the obama forsure would not be re-elected, also the reps and congressman would be in big trouble for re-election, so it wouldnt be a smart idea. Also, John Locke said if a government becomes destructive and "breaks the contract" (constitutional rights that include ammendments 1-10) then we as a nation have a right to over throw or take out the previous government and establish a more just one.

[-] 1 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

Oh yeah, there is also another bill going through that censors the internet which means no more freedom of speech. We lose our rights for freedom and we lose our rights to talk about it. How much do you want to bet that both will be passed?

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

I suspect that what may be happening is a consequence of so much distortion on the airwaves regarding policy, combined with the entrenched partisan differences,

resulting in members of Congress reacting rather than examining -

I think they may have lost sight of the overall trajectory and how individual pieces of policy create openings for those inclined toward fascist control over the public.

It's a big bill, things need to be funded. There are other issues waiting to be addressed on the table.

I think it's twisted logic at work, creating a myopia at the legislative level.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

The senate does not "sign" laws.

[-] 1 points by CitizensNetwork (3) 12 years ago


[-] 1 points by Febs (824) from Plymouth Meeting, PA 12 years ago

Senate bill 1867. Luckily one amendment which would have allowed the military to hold us citizens even after a trial had found them not guilty was defeated by Sen Rand Paul.

Although I heard this already passed the Senate with only 7 (3D, 3R, 1I) opposing it. Thought it passed Friday.

[-] 1 points by TaylaWolf (42) 12 years ago

Yes, it passed Friday, but there's a ton of loopholes and no, I don't believe that ammendment was defeated. I've been following that as soon as I was able to read the darned thing, and it passed like 2 days later. So much for being able to address a bill and being given the opportunity to say "umm no?"

[-] 1 points by Febs (824) from Plymouth Meeting, PA 12 years ago

I'm pretty sure the amendment that would allow them to hold after a not guilty ruling was defeated. The bill itself passed on Friday.

Everyone in the Senate save for those 7 Senators who voted against the bill should be removed. I find it funny because I've seen attacks on Ron PauI and his son Rand on here but Rand is the one who gave the most defiant opposition to the bill on the Senate floor.

[-] 2 points by TaylaWolf (42) 12 years ago

There's still a ton of loopholes in this bill in general, including their guidelines for what is deemed a national threat, and the fact that people not agreeing with what the government is doing is ONE of those things, it's a shame that there's not many that are addressing it. Talk about disappointing.