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Forum Post: Seattle Occupies Caught Censoring Reality

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 16, 2011, 3:51 p.m. EST by fishb8 (62)
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Seattle Occupiers only posted their versions of the conflict which obviously is a tenent of the whole "movement".

Push a cop, spit in his face . . .throw bricks, paint and steel rods, and have your buddies ready to record his reaction. Never show the provocation, never show the first striker, never show the true NON-Peaceful nature of OWS . . Only the reaction of the police. Sorry that both sides were shown in this latest planned ows fiasco, some of your faces are being identified, some arrested could face felony battery charges, some may even qualify for attempted murder.

Nice going OWS . ..finally the world will see your phony I'm-a-victim, useless scheme for what it is.
Angry, spoiled, talentless children, looking for a party. ..co-opted by militant union thugs and liberal, progressive, terrorists. Thanks for exposing your self. . .you are no longer anonymous !!!!



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[-] 3 points by Evolution001 (100) from Vancouver, BC 10 years ago


Put up or shut up.

[-] 1 points by Evolution001 (100) from Vancouver, BC 10 years ago

I watched the videos carefully and what was most impressive was the usual rough handling of the protesters who appeared very angry and were being pushed aggressively by the police against each other, horses, etc. They appeared unarmed while the police were all wearing body armor, shields, riding horses, other riot gear equipment. So definitely an unequal encounter.

I saw at least one protester who had signs of assault (black left eye and cuts to his forehead) claiming the result of police beating. The media (Fox News) claimed that he was not so peaceful showing a police video as proof which showed him being pushed around by the police from behind and being upset waving his arms around and yelling / protesting his abusive treatment.

So the only abuse and acts of violence I saw was by the police. The police claims the protesters threw bricks, a flare, and paint bags. I saw a couple of projectiles apparently coming from the protester's side but could not make up what they were. I certainly am not going to believe the police nor the corporate media as to the nature of those projectiles. Although I do not believe such things should be thrown it seems like the police was trying hard to provoke such reactions by their aggression - again a score against the police and their media. If the police was not as aggressive as they appeared to be then I would not have been as sympathetic with the tactics of the OWS. Another concern is that there are always police provacateurs who work on both sides of the police and try to paint protesters as mindless hooligans / thugs again trying to score points for the state. But unless it is proven that the persons who committed such potentially objectionable acts were protesters, it actually counts against the police and their master gangster bankster state handlers. The same goes with the corporate media, another branch of the illegitimate corporatist oligarchy - the same arm who helped to spin the 911 massacre conspiracy and the following genocidal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with millions dead, etc. etc. etc.

It is shameful that you just spread the state's propaganda so uncritically on an OWS resistance site. The dirty laundry of the state and the bigger capitalist system is too evident for most if not all those who are interested in OWS - and it has the smell of dying corpse.

[-] 1 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

Were any protesters charged with assaulting a police officer?

[-] 1 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

The video shows a juice carton being thrown, or was it a brick?

[-] -1 points by fishb8 (62) 10 years ago

when a perp points a gun at you .... should you call a meeting to discuss if it is real or a toy?
Mic check: "He is pointing what looks like a gun at me... " Zombies: " He is pointing what looks like a ...BANG . . .!" Mic Check: "Never mind"

[-] 3 points by randart (498) 10 years ago

An old friend of my family was a Seattle police officer. He retired and we were sharing a beer one night in a tavern and he revealed something that still bothers me. He worked the waterfront beat and said once that, "for fun", he and his fellow officers would search for drunks along the waterfront to beat up. He was proudly relating this story to me as I was silently getting sick to my stomach.

I suppose there are bad apples in all facets of society.

[-] -2 points by Karl101 (-6) 10 years ago

Mr ranfart, what a made up story.

[-] 2 points by randart (498) 10 years ago

Why would you think I would lie about that? He would also confiscate fireworks and bring them to the county where I lived and light them off on the 4th of July.

For that matter, I knew a sheriff in a small town that had friends in the Seattle police dept. who would shake down drug dealers and then give them to the sheriff where I lived who then sold them to the locals.

I don't lie. I believe that the only thing a person really owns is their word. Everything else is all illusion and display.

Believe it or not, I really don't care what you think.

[-] 0 points by randart (498) 10 years ago

One more thing. I see that you had to resort to name calling.

What is it inside your brain that makes you have a need to be such a person? Why can't you carry on a conversation without becoming a rude person?

I have noticed that those who resort to using name calling or insults are usually people who have nothing to say in the end. What is it that made you such a bitter person?

[-] 2 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

Funny..... the Police havent shown any videos of this

Push a cop, spit in his face . . .throw bricks, paint and steel rods

I wonder why?

[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

What, is there a network of you trolls operating right now? Yeah, spitting in someone's face is bad. I have no idea when this happened, you give no links. This is YET ANOTHER post to make OWS look bad. There are bad apples everywhere. Let me know when you are actually gonna start talking about ISSUES, not character assassination.

[-] -1 points by JPB950 (2254) 10 years ago

Oops! That video makes it apparent Occupy Seattle doesn't need any help looking bad. Some in the crowd and becoming violent and painting the whole group with that brush.


[-] 2 points by sato (148) 10 years ago

I support OWS but I do not condone the behavior you decribe.

[-] 2 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

Where is the proof any of that happened?

Why didnt the Police charge protestors who threw bricks at Police officers, with Assaulting a Police officer?

Wheres the video?

[-] 1 points by Kevabe (81) 10 years ago

OWS is full of it! The US is sick of these clowns. These people need to give up, pack their bags and move to North Korea already.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 10 years ago

As evidence this video is poor. The quality sucks, it's impossible to identify the object or where it came from a general direction is not evidence against one person or even group of persons.

I noted the gas canister that the police claim was not one of theirs (I say claim because I can not ascertain the correctness of this statement). Yet no one appears to claim that this canister was deployed during the altercation with the police. It's simply implied.

I don't know how many on this forum or reading this thread have been on a 'dock', I do know I have been on many occasions. I know there is always a lot of 'trash', rebar, pieces of wood, cans and various types of canisters littering the properties.

I'll freely admit that OWS attempts to 'spin' events to the media, I have no doubt other agencies are more practiced at it and do not hesitate to use it.

It's simply how things are so often presented in attempts to influence public opinion.

[-] 1 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

The object that was thrown arcs high thru the air, doesnt appear to be thrown to hit a police officer.

It maybe that all the protesters were being cuffed, on the ground, so WHO threw the object?

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 10 years ago

That is just it, throw up into the air isn't exactly the way to 'target' anything. As to who threw it, that isn't even up for debate, there is a general direction it comes from and that's it.

[-] 1 points by Fitifong (39) from Kingsville, ON 10 years ago

Oh look a group of drunken pot-heads thinking it's funny to throw shit at an officer. CLEARLY that represents everyone in the entire movement and the whole purpose of it.

/sarcasm /thread

Good day.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 10 years ago

Fuckin Canadians! Aye.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

is this about wikileaks ?

[-] 1 points by SmithGoesWashington (72) 10 years ago

Sirs, It is a war. But wait a minute! This war is peaceful full-heartedly. Regretfully peaceful people cannot fight with those who turn the protest to violence. Still, part of the war is too keep the protest peaceful; against snatchers and agent provocateurs and against gratuitously violent people who might consider it a fun to turn the protest to riot and violence.

[-] 1 points by nograve (23) 10 years ago

Thanks for exposing yourself, rock-ribbed conservative asshole. Nice to know you've got nothing better to do than sit with one thumb up your ass and the other self righteously typing an angry internet message to those you disagree with. But it's alright-- You're right to be afraid. Your way of life is coming to an end.

[-] -1 points by Karl101 (-6) 10 years ago

Mr nobrain, ows is a dying movement, i think it's your way of life (protesting) that is coming to an end.

[-] -3 points by fishb8 (62) 10 years ago

wow . . . not even a pretense of addressing the topic. Typical progressive, personal attack . . . might as just have well said.... "Duhhh" Your movement is a lie and you are a very shallow person, at best, .

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

You were throwing poop at children last Wednesday. You only told people the kids were already covered in poop when you got there because you started recording after you had thrown the poop.

See I can make up stuff too.

Nice going fishb8, finally the world will see your phony "I'm an asshole," useless scheme for what it is. Angy, spoiled, talentless child, looking for a party... co-opted by asshole fascist thugs and conservative, asshole, constitution violators. Thanks for exposing yourself. You are still an asshole.

[-] 0 points by fishb8 (62) 10 years ago

Wow and you can call people names too . . .

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

That's fucked up. Dumbasses are going to ruin it for the good people. Thanks for the link. Truth is always better than lies. Fox News is going to have a field day with this one.

[-] 0 points by fishb8 (62) 10 years ago

And only Fox would cover anything negative by OWS . .everyone else wants to see Americas idiots on display as heros . . .up is down...down is up doublespeak . . .

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

Throwing bricks is unsafe for everyone, I am not happy to hear about this. I once got a black eye from an EMPTY drink bottle thrown from a distance at a Mardi Gras celebration. On the whole, OWS is peaceful, I have seen more reports of aggression from police.

[-] 1 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 10 years ago

Are you certain it was not a juice carton, 100% sure?

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

I thought it was a prize thrown from a float, I tried to catch it and missed. It was a Minute Maid Orange juice bottle, I still can't drink the stuff...

[-] 0 points by buphiloman (840) 10 years ago

Umm, have you evidence for your assertions? (he said, expecting to see a link to Faux Nooz or the Wash Po).

[-] -2 points by dawnofthededad (1) 10 years ago

The real 99% should be there with cameras ready to film the 1% you described as thugs and troublemakers attacking the police. These people are the ones that cause the pepper spray to fly and tear gas to be used.