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Forum Post: Sanders vs Obama on Cutting Social Security

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 6, 2012, 8:16 p.m. EST by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI
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I think Cenk is right. Watch for the grand bargain after the election;




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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Yup. The shit is going to get cut, the taxes on the middle class are going to go up, and they may raise the top a point or two, but no one pays it anyways. 76k pages of loopholes.

War with Iran is coming regardless of who is elected, who controls the house, etc.

The only solution is a massive awakening of the people. And the general population is usually the last one to catch on to what is going on. If our population had the ability to turn this around, we would be seeing them organizing and creating new options right now.

Yes, there are a few. A year ago at OccTampa we were reminded that only 1% of the population of the city showing up would be 4k people in attendance. I think our biggest rally was 1400.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

Isn't being right sometimes so completely void of satisfaction? I mean you and myself (bias of course) make pretty damn good points and I feel you are right 99% of the time, but what we are right about is the opposite direction of what we would like to see, leaving zero reward in being correct. Irony can be harsh.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Very harsh indeed. We'll see if my prediction of Obama being reelected extending Bush cuts for a year comes true.

Conservatives thought I was nuts when I told them that Obamacare was a lock. They said the court was "conservative" and it wouldnt fly. I tried to tell them that the court is appointed by fascists, therefore fascists would naturally appoint other fascists. And the biggest handout to the insurance industry in the history of the planet, mandated by the gov, was an excellent piece of fascist legislation :)

The most disturbing trend is the people's unwillingness to wake the fuck up haha.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

He'll extend the Bush tax cuts again unless he can make a better deal- for them.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I agree about Obamacare. I thought it was a lock too. When I hear people say this mandate is like having to get car insurance I want to scream. It must be nice to be able to force people to buy your product.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 5 years ago

It's frustrating as all hell that so many people are still in a comatose-like state when it comes to what is going on in this country.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

The elected officials we have now are a joke. This country spent 30 years under the rule of people who secretly held fascist beliefs but that could be clearly seen in the policies they held and legislation they passed. The internet put an end to their reign because it shed a light on politics like never before and made it impossible to hide any longer the policies of a police state. The Bush Jr presidency was the calamitous end to that 30 year reign and now this massive knot of black politics and the mess it made, including in the courts and pentagon, has been left to hippies and rednecks. FanFuckingTastic!