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Forum Post: Ryan Lanza -- the loose thread that will unravel the entire Sandy Hook operation

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 20, 2012, 11:06 a.m. EST by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY
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"The moment it emerged that he [Ryan Lanza] was alive and was taken into police custody in Hoboken, New Jersey, many if not all of the statements previously made to the press by anonymous 'law enforcement officials' regarding Ryan Lanza and his connections could no longer have been known beforehand." http://www.sott.net/article/254925-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Evidence-of-official-foreknowledge

All the statements about Ryan had to be total frauds backed by zero, or rather backed by WHAT-WAS-SUPPOSED-TO-HAPPEN-BUT-DIDN'T. Thus foreknowledge of the operation by "authorities" has been exposed.

A follow up post to http://occupywallst.org/forum/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-co/ .

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[-] 3 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

Where is the brother now? Why did they handcuff him even though they knew he was not a suspect? Why has he nor the father made any statement or even been in the news? Not a word mentioned of either of them ( unless I missed something?). I thought they arrested Ryan in NJ.
Why did Ryan post on Facebook instead of calling the police once his name was implicated with the crime?
WEIRD

[-] 3 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

General Electric has a wee bit of money and has a lot to lose by being the 'provider' to these people?

[-] 3 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

hmmmmm

BTW, I didn't mean to say that they ' arrested' Ryan in NJ, I mean that I thought they had found him in NJ and were taking him in for questioning the day of the murders. Was he in Newtown or NJ?

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

I do not know where he was or if he was arrested. There are so many inconsistencies it is unfathomable.

His uncle was a retired police chief. A retired police chief who will now say that he knew nothing of the guns, the games or the possibility that he looked the other way because it was his nephew. Sounds to me like he was not as involved as he would have been had this issue been with someone he was not related to.

[-] 5 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

The uncle sounds like the typical dysfunctional member of the family. The 'Good' son is probably in deep denial as well.
After the CNN reporting of this incident, I am so disgusted with Cooper and the rest of them. I don't think I've ever witnessed such bad investigative reporting. And to think that I was taught to fear Russia for all their propaganda.

[-] 3 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

Agreed.

When will Americans wake up and smell the fecal matter they have been smeared with?

[-] 3 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

From my experience, though it's not courageous, it's easier to avoid the painful truth. I have friends who have children and my friends were always bright and intelligent activists until they had kids. I wondered what in the hell happened to them but then I realized that the only way they could get up each day and manage to be positive and happy for the kids was to ignore all the bad things, not watch the news, don't listen to anyone except the status quo, stay preoccupied with materialism, superficial social media and keep working to earn more and more money for more trips to Disneyland. It's the American dream....it's the grand illusion. Unfortunately, not all of us are so easily hypnotized but they have a pill for that condition....Prozac.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

Well said. Thank Rexall for Ronnie?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Whitlock_Dart

[-] 3 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

Very interesting. I was just doing some research this morning on how Ct school are funded for having ' disabled' students. In other words, those spiffy drug pushing school psychologists are being used to generate funding for the schools. I think GWB referred to this as ' no child left behind' ? GWB also legislated that he wanted and additional 250,000 Americans on SSRI medication by Dec. 31, 2001. How does one arrive at that number? I can only assume that he owed Pfizer and Lily the amt of money that 250,000 patients would generate. By cutting funding to schools and then forcing the drugging of children and providing kickbacks to schools for doing so, everyone was happy except the children. When I hear those media news idiots talking about how we need to address mental health in this country, all I hear is ' more drugging'. Anyone who has children better pull them out of public school and the rest of us, well, if we can't leave this country, we better form some kind of community to live in with armed guards along the perimeter. This sounds so nuts, doesn't it? Yet, this is exactly where they are leading us. GWB used every single act of ' terror' to justify his need to increase oppression and reduce our liberties. He used the London bombings ( which just happened to occur while he was in Scotland) to get the UK on board with him. That man was truly evil.

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

You are absolutely on to something.

This is outdated yet more relevant today. http://www.ritalindeath.com/School-Mental-Institutions.htm

Reagan cut mental treatment programs because he knew what was coming. Seems so long ago now.

[-] 2 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

I'm sadly too aware of how medicine is being used to control us. Here's a good article for you to read:

http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/tag/texas-medication-algorithm-project/

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

I thank you for the link. It looks incredibly interesting and it falls right into what I was pretty certain of when I mentioned Dart.

[-] 2 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

We had Dart Drugstores in my hometown. Now, I know where the name originates.
I don't know if Reagan was perceptive enough to know what would come of our mental health. There are just so many factors that effect mental health- environmental toxins, lifestyle, economic, nutrition. But the largest threats are psychologists and gov't. They just issued the DSM V so they are already gearing up for all sorts of new disorders to apply to us. None of us would pass one of their vague screening tests. Do you feel nervous speaking to large crowds? Do you feel anxious on the first day of school?
Psychology is not really a science in my opinion. I didn't always feel that way but I do now and so I find it to be as phony and greedy as Madame Chloe and her crystal ball.

[-] 0 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

Reagan was on "Alzheimer medication" remember. He likely thought he was acting in movie wherein he was the President. Often. There is no way he knew what would become of America by replacing personal treatments with medications.

The DMS 5 looks to me like a train of filled boxcars, on its way to 'summercamp' where "work will set you free". No shit. I see herds of hapless Americans entrusting their children's lives and futures with BigPharma as the conductor of that train.

I resent you for this new information and, I thank you for this new information.

[-] 0 points by Gillian (1842) 1 year ago

I wonder if Reagan had had a heart attack and was taking cholesterol drugs aka Statins? I only ask because Statins cause Alzeheimers and dementia. Statins also cause Lou Gehrig's disease and I know this because my father died from this disease only a few years after his heart attack and taking those medications. I later discovered that the drugs do cause this disease. Angry? Yeah, I'm angry. He could be alive today. Why would any doctor prescribe a drug that causes this disease? Ironically, it was my father who taught me to always question authority and never trust that anyone else knows more or better than you do.

DSM 5 is a crock of corruption. There are very few organic chemical imbalances in the brain that cause actual illness. Most of our mental illness relates to behavioral conditioning and circumstances. In other words, it's just an 'attitude' problem. Our perception of anything is dictated by how we are conditioned to perceive it. If your parents taught you that Jews smell bad and steal your money, then you will grow up trying to avoid Jews and when you can't, you might be filled with anxiety and paranoia.

Reagan and I have the same birthday and he loved jelly beans like I do too. Even though he was a republican, he was not like the corrupt ones today. He actually had a good heart and he believed that our business leaders would be more ethical than they are today and that's why he deregulated. I hate to stereotype but we, Aquarians, are always viewing the world in some utopian light and giving people more credit than they usually deserve. He couldn't have been all that corrupt because after all, look how wonderful his children turned out. They seem to be more liberal than republican for sure.

One last thing..Do you remember the Andrea Yates case in Texas? Another 'mass' homicide induced by big pharma and the TMAP.

I know how difficult this info is to swallow. Makes you realize how everything you believed in was a con. Makes you not want to trust anyone. But, knowledge is power and now you can make choices that protect you and you have me to support you along the way.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

According to WNBC, Adam Lanza was carrying his brother's identification. Which is why police originally thought it was Ryan Lanza.

Why does your link leave that important piece of information out? Sounds like they're cooking a conspiracy that isn't there.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Some of this info was in the previous article by the same author ( occupywallst.org/forum/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-co/ ), I'll quote it later.

However why assume WNBC is a truth standard at all? Last I heard, GE was the major owner. Jack Welch of GE openly stated that he didn't understand why he wasn't entitled to run NBC simply in the interests of the shareholders. In otherwords, he wanted to use NBC to lie, cheat and steal like the rest of his businesses.

There are only 6 corpoRAT owners of major media outlets in the U.S. They are NOT in the news business. Goebels and Pravda would be envious of their operation -- pure propaganda with a willingly blind audience. We just know that they tell us this or that, they could be writing novels and calling it history for all we know. With this concentration of outlets there is no real check on their newslying (except for us here talking to each other).

Back to Ryan:

"His 24-year-old brother, Ryan Lanza, said he hadn't seen his brother since 2010. This fact brings into question Ryan's claim that his younger brother may have had his identity card on his person at the school shooting. Although perhaps the question that needs to be asked here is, why would a person bother to carry identification with them after going to the trouble of dressing up in a bullet-proof vest, mask and black camouflage gear and going on a killing spree ..." . . .

"Perhaps most astonishingly, this suspect arrested in the woods was named in an Associated Press report as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza. The original report has long since vanished of course, but you can see it referenced here. This was despite the fact that Ryan had already been named as the deceased suspect inside the school, lying next to two handguns.

Ryan Lanza was actually at work in Hoboken, New Jersey, that morning when his name and photo began circulating in the media. And so, for most of Friday, the 'lone shooter' was erroneously reported as "Ryan Lanza, confirmed dead." At the same time, we were being told that Ryan's girlfriend and a room-mate were reported missing, also from Hoboken, New Jersey.

So this isn't just a case of mistaken identity, as later claimed when it was suggested that Adam had a piece of identification belonging to his brother on his person. Not one, but BOTH Lanza brothers were being placed by 'law enforcement officials' at the scene of the shooting. It could be that Ryan's quick reflexes to leave his workplace to get on a bus to go back to his apartment while protesting innocence via his Facebook page may have saved his life.

Now remember, all of this confusion somehow resulted from a single guy going into a school and shooting children and teachers and then shooting himself, all within three minutes. Surely it should have been fairly easy to rapidly and concretely identify the details of such a crime and the scene.

What it's starting to look like is that the Lanzas were framed for this mass shooting in advance. Long before any suspects were named, and even as we were being told that Nancy Lanza was among the dead at the school, we were told that police were investigating a murder in ... Hoboken, New Jersey, where a body had been found at the home of ... Ryan Lanza! An older "confirmed" version of events had RYAN, not Adam, travelling to Hoboken that morning to murder his father before going to the school in Newtown, Connecticut. Other variants had Ryan OR Adam going to both their divorced parents' homes and killing them before going to the school.

The narrative has now settled on the younger brother killing his mother in Newtown then going to the school. So what about the rest of it? . . . All these misleading reports had to have been issued by someone or some people "confirming" to Associated Press and other media outlets that the Ryans's father had been murdered [he wasn't even aware that the shooting at the school had taken place until journalists turned up on his doorstep], or that Ryan's girlfriend had gone missing from Hoboken, or that either Ryan or Adam were pulled out of the adjacent woods in handcuffs yelling "I DIDN'T DO IT" to assembled parents. These aren't just 'little details' that can be confused for other details, these are detailed narratives. So how, or why, would any member of the press come up with such details? They strike me as a set of alternative scenarios that might have found their way into the official narrative had facts on the ground turned out differently. " http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control

There is more info on Ryan in http://www.sott.net/article/254925-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Evidence-of-official-foreknowledge , linked to the Op above. "The moment it emerged that he was alive and was taken into police custody in Hoboken, New Jersey, many if not all of the statements previously made to the press by anonymous 'law enforcement officials' regarding Ryan Lanza and his connections could no longer have been known beforehand." It is the previous, too early to know anything statements by authorities that are the tell.

Back to the ID, assuming this scenario is correct (just for argument's sake, we don't know yet where truth lies), the assertion that Adam was carrying Ryan's ID (did we ever see any pictures of it?) could have been an early attempt at clean-up of the earlier impossible assertions.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Why jump to conclusions before you have enough facts to back any claim?

You can't just discredit WNBC by saying "we can't assume they're a standard of truth." You have to prove them wrong to discredit them. Do that and then you'll have something. Until then you don't have enough evidence.

I do find certain aspects questionable, like the man arrested in the woods. Do more research on that before you jump to conclusions.

I'm sure evidence will be made public knowledge as time goes on.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

The proven anomalies are quite fatal to the MSM narrative. Adam died with only two handguns with him. The killing weapon was in the trunk. He was not the killer. It's that simple.

Now the explanation that ties together all the loose ends will take some time. However it will not be shown or discussed on WNBC, that's for sure.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Please link me the info about guns on him and the weapon that killed him.

From a different source than the one in your post.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

These links are from an earlier post. I'm sure they all have updated articles, if you are interested (I neither endorse nor disendorse any of these sites).

"They Shoot Children, Don’t They?" http://www.zengardner.com/they-shoot-children-dont-they/

"THE CONNECTICUT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS: OPERATION CHAOS" http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/the-connecticut-school-shootings-operation-chaos/

Even more extreme: "The US Federal Government has now Declared Open & Unrestricted Warfare on America, Americans, & our Children!" http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-us-federal-government-has-now-declared-open-unrestricted-warfare-on-america-americans-our-children/28235/

"Sandy Hook Shooting: Victims Killed with Rifle Found in Car – Who Put it There? The Guy Arrested in the Woods?" http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/sandy-hook-shooting-victims-killed-with-rifle-found-in-car-suspect-could-not-have-gotten-back-to/

"Connecticut massacre, two shooters? Look to Aurora, Colorado" http://www.sott.net/article/254774-Connecticut-massacre-two-shooters-Look-to-Aurora-Colorado

Factual beliefs are actually emotionally driven. I don't give NBC any more credence than a wino lying in a gutter, snoring in his own vomit.

One more: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sandy-hook-shooting-american-gladio/

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

"Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun “Psy Op”" http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/sandy-hook-huge-hoax-and-anti-gun-psy-op/

"There are obvious signs that tell the difference between genuine and fabricated event. The recent shooting of police and firemen responding to a deliberately-set fire has all the signs of being a bona fide event: there is a single consistent narrative, one shooter has been clearly identified, and there has been no good reason to doubt that the subject, William Spengler, went off the rails and committed the crimes. . . .

In the case of Sandy Hook, however, the situation is completely different, where we have one inconsistency after another: the mother was a teacher there and Adam was a student; the mother was not a teacher there an Adam was not a student. One shooter was involved, yet police radio reports show a second suspect was apprehended at the scene and a police helicopter video show yet a third suspect being tracked in the woods. The principal called the local paper about the shooting; the principal was dead on the scene. Excellent studies of the incoherence of the Sandy Hook narrative have been published by Niall Bradley, “Sandy Hook massacre story spins out of control” (Veterans Today, 20 December 2012) and by Professor James F. Tracy, “The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information” (Global Research, 25 December 2012). Even NBC News has reported that there were four rather than two handguns inside the school and no long gun. There is no consistent story or coherent narrative."

[-] 2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

This entire thing stinks to high hell....

[-] 3 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

We have to keep pulling on that thread. We can't let this go.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (3985) 1 year ago

Absolutely. Must stop False Flag charged Herd Mentality.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Remember the thundering herd passing the original Patriot Act (already written prior to 9/11)?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (3985) 1 year ago

Yes. Shocking, how they get away with it all.

So many people are willfully blind.

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 1 year ago

One word.....

CIAmindcontrolexperimentalassassinprogram

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

I did a google search on Ryan Lanza and got 92,100,000 hits
how many conflicting "facts" do you think are in there?

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

we have an army of media people and wanabees rushing to say something before the other guy
who cares what they say?!?!?!
wait for the police report to go public!
THEN
we will see the conspiracy nuts go wild!


do a search on ANYTHING in this tragedy - you will find conflicting "news"


we should be centering on what we can do to stop this from happening again.


many pro-gun nuts want us to spend time & money on mental health
just like so many state legislatures waste time on the abortion issue.


some people report the shooter was on some medication,
if true, this PROVES mental health assistance is not the answer

[-] 3 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

One has to judge each asserted fact on its own evidentiary basis. But to write off everything contradicting the official story as oh-that's-just-the-confusion-of-a-developing-story is a pure fraud. The false flag state ops always use it as a type of get-out-of-jail-free-card to extricate themselves from f-ups in the operations (which always occur).

Mentally ill people belong in mental hospitals, which should be reopened.

However, Adam Lanza had nothing to do with it. It seems they may have chosen this family (presumably because of its prepper-ness), killed them and then arranged their bodies as evidence. If that scenario is correct more was intended but Ryan saved his life by his Facebook entry. This is the scenario in the Op link. This scenario is the only scenario I know of that makes sense of the early references to Ryan by the authorities. They had already gotten the script of what Ryan would have been framed to have done. Follow the lies.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

there are over 2,000,000 google hits on "ryan lanza"
why are you wasting your time & ours trying to figure out what you CANNOT


spend your time figuring out how to stop this from happening again


write congress


http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_senators.htm VP Joe Biden, Gun Panel, 1600 Pennsylvania Av, Washington DC 20006

Dear ............................:

[ _ Y.O.U.R...I.N.T.R.O...H.E.R.E_ ]

While we may want to confiscate guns, here is a much more feasable approach. It will not solve all gun problems, but it will reduce the number of guns and will reduce the number of dangerous people who have access to guns - and isn't THAT our real goal?

Please consider advocating these four steps below to help America with our gun disasters:

My proposal - for a NATIONAL gun law for all guns & owners:
My four points are SIMPLY based on seeing a logical parallel between cars & guns.

1
all gun owners must be licensed & tested with all guns they own and pass a written test.

if you own a motor cycle, a dump truck, and a car - you are tested in each
a written gun test - to guarantee the owner's understanding of gun laws
being forced to know the law - via the test - means the police know who you are -
and you may be less likely to commit a crime

2
every year, you must prove that you have gun liability insurance &
be background checked and prove that your gun is properly locked when not used.

insurance should be at least as high as car insurance [ I would like at least $1,000,000 ]
you must prove your car insurance
annual back ground check to verify your suitability to own guns
every gun must be locked in a gun case or have a trigger lock

3

as the owner of a gun, you are legally responsible for what is done with it.
you are required to report if your gun is missing within 48 hours
the owner will be much less likely to leave a gun accessible to a family member or thief

4
every gun must be registered and tested & a sample fired bullet stored by the police
knowing that your gun & its bullets are so easily traced will make you think before using it

peripherally-

Gun fees should be high enough to create a very substantial gun buy-back program
Penalties must be very high in money & jail time - especially after the first offense
No citizens ( except dealers & real collectors ) need more than a small number of guns
Gun fees should be higher for more guns.
The nra fighting against this - will be balanced by the insurance companies fighting for it
But the nra may be in favor of this when the gun companies understand that a gun owner can get
paid to turn in their old gun and will be able to buy a new gun - with an INTEGRATED lock .
If we legalize drugs, we will clear out jail cells to fill with gun law breakers and
free up police "time" for real crime investigation
I am fundamentally NOT opposed to confiscation, but we WILL get higher compliance and lower
opposition if we use high fees & buyback. Take a position of reducing guns, like assault weapons
such as semi-automatic rifles - rather than punishing a gun nut who spent $10,000 on an armory.

I look forward to voting for you again !

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Ben?

You do realize that making comprehensive sense will further befuddle those already addled by acute exposure to FLAKESnews, or any number of radio talk shows?

I think they are all away now, listing to the NRA press conference.

They will be further befuddled...........................:)

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Listen you two, don't be such frightened little children. We have two impossibilities here: 1) the murder weapon was in the trunk, the alleged perp was dead elsewhere with two handguns; 2) actions were ascribed to brother Ryan that were blown away (as if to another galaxy) by his being alive elsewhere, i.e., the authorities must have been describing a reality that was supposed to be, i.e., they got the script early just like BBC reporting WT7 had fallen while standing before it -- there is no other other explanation for their statements. No simple error could account for their statements.

The two impossibilities mean rogue authorities were in on it.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (3985) 1 year ago

You made some good points. Some intelligent people here are blind to Gladio type crimes (most destructive of all).

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Sounds more like Alex Jones was involved.

Have you considered joining the hunt for Bigfoot?

They could use your.....um.......dedication.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Please, keep hiding your head in the sand. Don't wake up on my account, you obviously couldn't handle the truth.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

There isn't any room, Your head took up all the available sand.

You should read this.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/14339/koch_brothers_gun_control/

Start understanding the level of the lies you are attempting to pass along.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

What makes you think I don't agree with common sense restrictions on the 2nd Amendment (a la the prohibition against yelling fire in a crowded theater in reference to the 1st Amendment)? I totally agree with the ban on civilian machine and burst fire guns and would support a ban on high capacity magazines.