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Forum Post: RU better off ?

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 6, 2012, 9:40 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Ed Kaine NationofChange Published: Saturday 6 October 2012

“In these final weeks before the 2012 election we have a clear choice between Obama, who steered us out of this crisis in a matter of months, and Romney who would steer us right back into a new crisis.” Are You Better Off Than 4 Years Ago? Um, YES! Romney and Ryan asked "Are you better off than 4 years ago?" in August 2012... during the narrow slice of time when August 2008 seemed pretty good. By the end of September2008 we were watching the wheels come off. There is nobody around who remembers that month who would not say "we are better off now than 4 years ago." Counting on us to have short short memories was more successful before YouTube.

If you need a refresher, take a look at George W. Bush on September 24th, 2008. As he announces the collapse of everything we know you can see what he knew we were headed towards. The next President would have a heck of a time getting us out of the problems Bush had created. For a man working on a legacy, he had found his in being the man who disproved the Neo-conservative agenda militarily, economically and socially.

September 24th, 2008

Weeks after these words the private sector was shedding jobs at an incredible rate. In Bush's last month over 800,000 private sector jobs were lost. Immediately under Obama it started to turn around, a little bit of "wait and see" and the few companies who kept their work forces and delayed layoffs did better. The "bikini graph" was one of those powerful data renderings that proved the turnaround. If the opposite graph was available before the 2010 election it would have been everywhere... I mean "STOP THE PRESSES" front page stuff... but it was almost nowhere.

In these final weeks before the 2012 election we have a clear choice between Obama, who steered us out of this crisis in a matter of months, and Romney who would steer us right back into a new crisis. By doubling down on "trickle-down" and striving to be right of George W Bush, Romney has backed himself into a corner.

Are you better off than 4 years ago? Almost certainly! Will you be better off in 4 years with Obama? Or would you like to take your chances with Romney?

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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20531) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

corporations are not people

  • . . . my friend . . .
[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

To answer the question in your title...

No. The business I worked for closed down in 2010.

Want to ask that question again?

Economy sucked under Bush and it sucks now. Fact.

The 1% is still exploiting the 99%... FACT

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

I'm sorry you are not part of the 5,000,000 + new jobs created in the last 40 months

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

yeah all those jobs making 8 or 9 dollars an hour are just what this country needs!

I have a different job now. It pays less than the one I had before. Although I do make much more than 9 dollars an hour. But my job wasn't created in the last 40 months either... a guy had to retire because of disability and that's where the opening came from.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

If the employees of grover-koch-alec allowed the tea potty to vote to tax the 1% then we could use that money to hire the 99%

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

If we signed trade agreements that mandate all import based labor standards abide by American labor standards we could bring back every single outsourced job. It would eliminate the point in outsourcing.

Proper monetary reform would allow for funding of job creation through infrastructure as well.

[-] 0 points by Shayneh (-482) 1 year ago

We need to poll the 47%ers who are receiving government assistance. Lets see what they have to say?

[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 1 year ago

So an entire, massively huge economy just turned on a dime when Obama took office? What triggered that? Closing Gitmo? Seriously. What did Obama do to make it "immediately" turn around?

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

The only ones that are better off are Wall St. And with Rombama in the next term, the same will apply.

What a joke this entire system is.

[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 1 year ago

If i were a banker or worked on Wall Street I would totally be supporting Obama. Vote for your own self interest, right? Obama's proved that he'd be looking out for mine. Good times.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

The banks are still robbing, the bombs are still dropping. Obama is a lock.

BoA and WellsFargo funded the DNC with over 20million.

[-] -1 points by throaway (57) 1 year ago

You know it doesn't turn on a dime. It's more like a lumbering aircraft carrier.

The sins of Clinton took over 7 years to come back to bite us and the media blames Bush!