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Forum Post: Ron Lawl gaining on "the Grinch" oh yeah !!!

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 14, 2011, 3:25 p.m. EST by KVNLGN (154)
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[-] 4 points by Jehovah (113) 12 years ago

Another Ron Lawl troll? Jesus H. Christ.

[+] -6 points by reckoning (53) 12 years ago

Shut up communist scum.

[-] 4 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago

See http://occupywallst.org/forum/r-o-n-p-a-u-l-really-obnoxious-naive-people-and-un/ for a more complete discussion of what AYnRand/RonPaul advocates.

[-] 3 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

RonPaul on the Issues:

Total free market capitalism.

Free market health care.

Repeal Roe v. Wade.

Eliminate capital gains and estate taxes.

Eliminate the EPA.

Repeal ban on assault weapons.

Undermine UN arms control efforts.

Go to his website and read it for yourself.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Are you opposed to any of these things coupled with a properly restored and prudently amended/modified pre-1871 Constitutional government, considering that many of these issues could indeed be decided by you and your fellow states-persons?

It's been so many years since the United States has had free market Capitalism, I think many have no idea what it is about. Frankly, I'm even for abolishing publicly owned corporations, the stock market and all other enterprises whose only existence is based upon extracting wealth without adding any value to products or services. If people choose to gamble with business this way, they should do so without citizens ever having any concern over them winning or losing, and if they get screwed, have their papers in order and bring their suit before a Constitutional Article III Common Law court for a certain fair and equitable remedy.

This OBVIOUSLY does not happen today, even with blatant thievery while consistent objectors, as you appear to be, likely don't understand why the very nature of Article IV court systems operating with sanctioned jurisdiction and not actually in law, but colored by law, makes finding such justice, virtually impossible.

It was never Constitutional for the United States to be forced to join the United Nations, who as a matter of fact, are one of the principle note holders on this nation's third bankruptcy.

The United States signing on the Social Security Administration Act of 1992 was also Unconstitutional and hell, that isn't even a United States contract, it's actually a United Kingdom contract, of which I'd be large, you've never read, have no idea what all is implied, yet, you and yours have certainly consented. Guess what? I haven't because I've read it and understand what it means.

[-] 0 points by Febs (824) from Plymouth Meeting, PA 12 years ago

There is no ban on assault weapons.

The rest of it - yes please!

[-] -1 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

I don't think that entirely accurate, but even so, at least he's anti-arrest indefinitely without a trial... and anti-drug war... and anti-blow up the world... anti-federal reserve... amongst other things.

Is there a realistic alternative to the dismal politicians on either side of the party lines? or more importantly one you can actually count on to do what he/she says?

[-] 2 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 12 years ago

He's got a few good sound bites but the rest of his platform is right out of the John Birch Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society). Nucleus posted the links to the issues and nowhere does he say end the wars or get rid of nuclear weapons.

[-] 2 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

No, but there is a big difference between national defence... and international aggression. Ron Lawl doesn't like the latter.

I dunno. I don't agree with his entire platform, but it is a massive improvement over everyone else in the running.

I have more respect for Romney than Obama at this point, and if he signs that ridiculous defence bill he's going to drop below Newt in my eyes.

[-] 4 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Romney is a perfect example of a wealth extracting venture capitalist, with no regard for actually producing anything or employing Americans to do so. Invest, fatten up by cutting American labor/operating costs, outsource, do paper magic to increase share prices, gut and bankrupt fucking all other investors in the process.

Check Tigger Romney out and see what Tiggers do..........

The rollingstone has a couple well investigated articles on him, and pretty much all the candidates. Of course there are many other sources and it's also impossible not to consider his LDS connections.

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

Completely agree, and Newt is a corporate whore; but Obama is a puppet dangling behind a teleprompter... unless he's campaigning in which case he's a liar.

I hope Paul wins the nomination, but otherwise I will be rooting for Romney and hoping he is just talking a good conservative game for the election, but will then surprise everyone by being more progressive if he wins.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

With ya on Dr Paul. I can't even begin to comprehend the total lack of logic and rational unthinking that would have anyone voting Obama, and Newt even running is beyond insanity. He should be wearing prison stripes, like many others in DC.

[-] -2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

This ignoring of the one guy who is against wall street shows the power of the media.

If the media were saying the OWS loved RP, than the OWS would love RP. Same for every other topic, message, candidate, etc.

[-] -3 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

Totally. They are gonna flip when he wins Iowa... bit difficult to ignore that.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Ron Lawl is revolting.

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

Ron Lawl is the only candidate willing to stand up to the fed, the root of america's problems, and as such, he will get my vote.

[-] 4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Mmmm. He represents more deregulation and that is not prudent in a great many areas.

[-] 2 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

I'm all ears. I don't think he represents deregulation in the financial markets...He is not about deregulating the derivatives market or for the bailout of banks (first it was a liquidity problem, now its a solvency problem..). These banks have only increased their leverage in the system to 500 trillion dollars...this is over 5 times larger than the GDP of the entire global economy. This is beyond scary. He is not for the re-hypothification of collateral by the major international banks. And all of this is condoned by the fed. These are the main issues that are going to send our economy into absolute free-fall before the end of next year. These issues are directly related to my safety and that of my family, as well as your safety and survival. If you uderstand the way the financial system is set up, you will understand that when these banks go down, our whole system will collapse and their will be riots in the streets. You need to sever the head of this establishment in order to have any chance of a half-way decent future. I am taking a big-picture approach regarding this election. I understand the root of evil in our global economy and I think he is our best shot at actual change. The other politicians are too far gone and have already sold out. And I don't buy the concept that if you vote for r.p. you are wasting your vote...Those in power will use that concept for as long as they can because it is a way to stop any future momentum regarding anyone other than a democrat or republican. It is a shortsighted view which offers no change from this completely corrupt corporate controlled government. Some guy called me a troll for admitting who i am going to vote for, what an absolute loser.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

KVNLGN--I don't think you understand.

The only people that are worried about a future free fall..........are the ones that have not fallen yet.

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

Our definitions of a free-fall are completely different. And something our country has never seen. 10x worse the any great depression. I'm not talking about struggling to put food on your table, pay the heating bill, etc, I am talking about defending what little possessions we have with our life. If that is what you are looking for then so be it, that is what "the powers that be" want. As long as we fight over the scraps, they continue to RLPP, rape loot pillage and plunder what remains. I'd prefer to fight them then eachother, either way I'm prepared and in all honesty, I hope you are too! Survival of the fittest...F@*! with the best, die like the rest. Any signs of physical or mental weakness will be dealt with. You understand the type of free-fall I am referring to ? Regardless, my point is that R-O-N P-A-U-L provides the best chance to reverse the damage already done. Sadly, the damage is probably irreversible.

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

I can't believe he said you might able to get more ethanol out of hemp than corn, as a reason why Corn subsidies are counterproductive.

This guy needs to get elected asap.

[-] 5 points by EXPOSED (222) 12 years ago

That's what government is, the government is in the business of choosing winners and losers based on special interests and not on what's more efficient, safe or in the interest of the general population...

What is also funny is that OWS doesn't realize that people that write most of the regulations are the same people that are in bed with corporations. They write regulations to regulate those that pay them...

[-] -1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

The KTC supports you!

The Revolution has a new theme song!



The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

keep the religion out of it buddy...all religion. it is a tool used by those at the top of the food chain to seperate and exploit the masses and have them war with one another. wake up ! My religion is doing good and I believe in science.

[-] 1 points by Matthias (1056) 12 years ago

It is certainly true that religion was abused by greedy people. But what is wrong with the life and teaching of Jesus. Has He acted likewise or was He not opposed to riches and the rich. Did He not say woe to you rich, for you had your reward.

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

Yeah, i'm sure their are some good aspects to the teachings of Jesus and going to church on Sunday, reflecting on your life and improving the world around you. However, I don't need to listen to anyone in order to understand right from wrong, or pay an institution collection fees during mass to "help the poor." At this juncture their is more harm than good in brainwashing and seperating the masses into different religious groups arguing over whose teachings/philosophy/God are the ultimate. If we were one large group of people doing good for society, the evil at the top of the food chain would have a much harder time controlling things. Religion is only one of their tools, also used to create wars. My religion is good, I believe in science....

[-] -1 points by giggog (11) 12 years ago

Watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgXtvvp7L4k&feature=g-u

At least Ron Lawl did not tell the OWS to go take a bath at get a jobs from nowhere.

[-] 4 points by reckoning (53) 12 years ago

Not even Obama or Newt will last this 1 hour long interview....great interview.

Real man don't use teleprompters.

[-] -1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

you know what is wierd, I typed in Ron Lawl and when it appeared on the post it changed to Lawl....odd.

[-] -1 points by newjustice22 (49) 12 years ago

Thats because his name is censored lets you know who controls this site. You have to space it out like this. ron paul

[-] -2 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

or use a capitol "i" instead of the lower case "L"

[-] -3 points by reckoning (53) 12 years ago

Such a great candidate with consistency, step away Obama...u are done.