Forum Post: Romney Wins Florida!
Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 31, 2012, 8:52 p.m. EST by TimMcGraw
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Wow, he smashed his opponents in that state, it's gonna only get stronger from here. I'm thinking at least 4 of the next 6 states.
Here's Mit Romney saying "I don't care about the very poor.":
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/291236/20120201/romney-poor-political-gaffe-video.htm
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He has no intention of getting his hands dirty.
So much for "Compassionate Conservatism." I'm glad he said it. It's out there now and they're trying to clean it up. Ha Ha!
LOL.
They cannot clean up his track record.
LOL Yes, a track record of success is certainly a poor feature to have a in a presidential candidate.
you better go research where bane Capital made all its money. It was through investing in companies that were being helped by public taxes. He is a public/private man. All his money comes from knowing which companies the government is bailing out. I wonder if his life long participation in politics made him rich or if it is because he is intelligent and hard working.
Frankly, it does not matter. His job at Bain was to manage other people's capital, and he did it well.
yeah, Id say. Nothing better than making people rich off government welfare checks. I guess the moral to his business plan is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. wouldn't you say? but I bet you are going to spin this where his welfare check pay out to his investors is good and welfare checks to the working class is bad. You got to love self interests. they can make humans do mental gymnastics without breaking a sweat. Thanks for showing me the right way to spell Bain. I usually don't take the time to spell correctly institutions I have no respect for.
I think it is awful if they did get help from the government, but I don't blame him. I blame our government and elected officials. I take every tax deduction legally possible. Don't you?
I do, but I don't lie about it. Romney is rich because he hob knobs with the government, and he''ll probably win because he denounces the gov't. I find contention with that hypocrisy.
LOL Yes, profit before people says that he is a poor presidential candidate.
His job was to manage peoples capital, his job was to put profits before people. I do the same thing between 9-5 everyday, as do millions of other small business owners.
He does donate millions of his personal money to his church every year. They are people.
I don't give a damn about how much money that he donated to his church. They manage to get a weekly tithing out of people as it is.
He continuously put profit before people in all that he does. Corporations are not people. He spent 14 million dollars in a negative ad campaign in Florida because left to his own devices...his platform is shit. You could look at his track record in Mass....oh, no wait, he destroyed all the evidence.
What percentage of Americans, in your opinion, actually put people before profits?
the 99% do
That is what I thought someone would say.
You can trust that a Mormon knows how to get work done. He didn't inherit his millions. Do you hate to American dream?
I'm an ex mormon, sweet pea. You might want to be careful there.
I love the American dream. The problem is that it is unobtainable for many. He has no intention of getting his hands dirty. None. And he won't win. That problem will come from the Repelican party.
I guess it is possible that his father didn't leave him any money, but Romney certainly didn't pull himself out of humble beginnings by his own bootstraps. His father was a wealthy CEO, governor of Michigan and member of the Nixon cabinet. Mitt Romney is from a very privileged family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney
If you listen to the entire discussion, his point was that the very poor have a safety net and the rich do not need one. He also said if the safety net needs repair we will fix it.
Those on the edge of poor do not have protection to keep them from falling into the very poor category.
The safety nets are not much. We still need to care about them.
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He did not say he did not care about them. Listen again. He is concerned about those that are falling into that position. Getting the economy going will help prevent that.
There are plenty of safety nets, Welfare, Unemployment, food stamps, Medicaid, Pell grants, Tenant Based Rental Assistance Program, Supplemental Security Income, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), WIC, low-income Home Energy Assistance Program and many more.
http://federalsafetynet.com/
Those are just some of the programs.
See GirlFriday below. There are also plenty of homeless people.
Homeless is different. Believe it or not there are homeless people that do not want help. There are also people that do not know how to get help.
There are things we as individuals can do to help as well. Our entire family works to support this great program for years. We have met some great people. I feel it is important to teach our children the people can help people.
http://americasgrowarow.org/
1.4 million pounds and counting!
I'm sorry. We just disagree fundamentally. I don't think there should be any homeless people in this country. There is plenty of wealth. It's just concentrated at the tippy top at the moment.
It is good what you are doing, but I don't think charity is the answer, it is a bandaid. I think an economic overhaul is the answer. There is no reason for poverty or homelessness in America.
i've read a study on homeless people, and very many of them have serious mental issues...
Yes. And, why is that? Why are they uncared for?
And, keep in mind, in this economy the mentally ill are a much smaller percentage of the homeless.
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there is no country without homelessness, if people want to be homeless they will be. there are plenty of shelters and programs to prevent it.
Wow. That is all I can say, Tim.
Charity is the answer. What did you do in 2011 that helped keep someone from going without food, shelter, clothing.
That said, there are programs that exist so that there should be no homeless, If you really care find someone who is homeless and show them how to get help. I tried it before and I got hot coffee in my face. There are folks that do not want help.
Charity is a band-aid. It does not solve the social and economic problems long term. If that statement makes you think I don't do as much as you, then so be it.
All I am saying is don't discount charity.
Imagine if everyone put in 1 hour of charity work a week. That would be 320 million hours a week.
Small acts of human kindness add up.
I don't. I take part in it because we must, however, I do not see it as a means to the end that I want which is economic fairness for all. Peace.
Coffee in your face? Be happy that was all that you got FarmerJoe.
More likely that person was offended at your presumption that they were not trying. I've been through the State Federal and Local help process. Let me tell you : It is not very helpful. You can apply for shelter and be told that there is nothing available for one, then be placed on a waiting list if there is a shelter available ( good luck getting a notice of a vacancy ), you can also apply for subsidized housing or rental assistance, again good luck with that programs are full and the waiting lists are years long. This does not even get into the abuse you are handed from some of the people working at these places for being Homeless or disabled and homeless. Good luck in getting directed to available housing or shelter that meets your needs, good luck finding it yourself. You would think it was your fault the economy died and you lost your job. You would think it was your fault to get an incurable illness that your last employer got tired of making health management considerations for and let you go even though you were managing to be productive.
You have no idea how condescending you sound. Or if you do? Then you are sick.
right on.
Look, I'm no Mitt Romney fan, but I believe in being accurate and fair and Romney has been misquoted and out of context. He did not say "I don't care about the poor" He said:
"I not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there and if it needs repair I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich. They're doing just fine."
Still, in context, it is pretty sad. He's paying big time for that comment. It's all over the news. The poor have it pretty rough in this country as the safety net is paltry. It ain't easy to be poor. Do not set the poor aside. Big mistake.
And for damn sure, don't say anything like that with this many homeless on the street. That just screams you don't have a safety net muhahahahaha. I'll get you my pretty and your little dog, too.
Good points, GirlFriday. Damn straight. How dare he.
What it shows is not contempt for the poor, that's Newt's domain; it shows, as does everything about Mitt, that he has no idea what life is like for ordinary people. When someone's position changes as readily as his has over the years, and he STILL can't figure out what to say to real people, that is what is sad.
True points. Mitt is ever so slightly more decent than Newt. Still quite sad for America.
I believe it is very important for all of us to realize how very disconnected we have become from one another. Only such a disconnect would allow for old stereotypes from half a century ago to still be prevalent. No problem can be resolved until it is recognized as a problem. I think we are in the throes of realization rather than the complacence of acceptance. In that, there is great hope.
Thank you for that comment. It sometimes seems to me that we are all living in worlds of our own creation, and are incapable of entering into other peoples reality. What polar opposite lives we live in this country!
It is the homeless Iraq and Afganistan veterans that really get to me. I mean, you go fight these horrible wars, so that someone else can reap fortunes, call themselves patriots, and then let you get beaten to death under a bridge. You have these old, over-priviliged people, like several who I just had an exchange with, and they say the problem is young people are lazy, and have no respect. My God, it's all surreal sometimes! I think as a society we are genuinely bordering on insanity.
I don't think it's insanity. It's ignorance and fear; the Grand Illusion that people have believed in is that we have any control over anything at all besides our own attitude. When the illusion of control begins to dissolve, those in power try harder to control more. The polar opposites have been fostered for decades to keep the "masses" (that would be us) from proving people can actually have differing beliefs and still work together. Hopefully, that will be one of the effects of OWS: that people will indeed learn this. The incorrigibles will probably remain that way, but those willing to think and work and combine their efforts are the ones who get things done. The "polar people" will simply sit on the sidelines and complain, but do no real harm.
Perceptive comment. I think there is real hope of this. That's why I'm here. I am waiting though for a formal commitment by this movement to non-violence. In a nation so polized, violence is not only counter-productive, it is dangerous.
I do not believe there is a specificity to the movement that will allow it to formally commit to anything. If a group claims to be the 99% who are not wealthy, then by definition there are violent and non violent members within that 99%. I would like to see anyone who is willing and able to work to find a likeminded group -- whether it be a political party or veterans group or whatever -- and start working toward specific goals. There are groups out there who have been aware of much of what OWS is bringing to light. Groups who have, up until now, not had any impact. Find them. Join them. Use what they already know. One I've seen is www.americavotes.org, but that could be a starting point.
There may not, as you say, be a "specificity" to the movement; but there is a leadership structure as defined by the NGA. That structure can either work to help the movement, or hinder it.
In their failure to declare this movement, in philosophy and by definition non-violent, I believe they are hindering the movement in the most substancial way. You cannot have a leadership structure, and then say the movement has no "specificity." That is an insupportable contradiction.
I have waited for a declaration of non-violence, and since that has not been forthcoming I am henseforth no longer a member of this movement. I go without ranchor, and in hopes for all the best, for all of you.
I wish you the best. And do stay in touch; seriously, what you are hoping for may develop. However you do it, stay involved and aware, please.
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I'm with you, Phanya2011.
Yes, even stated accurately it is sad. So why lose credibility by misquoting the man?
I put the link. I'm human and I'm not a journalist. You've straightened the record. Good for you. I have no problem with that.
I should have been more clear. I realize you were just quoting the International Business Time's headline. Presumably they are journalists and misleading headlines bug me and it happens far too often. I think they lose credibility when they do that.
I agree. You were good to point it out. Peace.
them dem's can't read, or listen to a full conversation ;)
And, them reps don't give a darn about anyone but them rich.
we just don't like paying for slackers
Then stop using public highways, schools, police, fire departments, etc. you hypocrite leech.
we just don't like paying for the entitled ones
It's like winning the trophy for best "village idiot".
Of course, they paid for it.
you think they paid for people to vote for them.. really :)
somebody ought to make romney apply for food stamps! there is no middle class, if he wants to help the poor he should pay his share of income tax.
Romney's "jobs" program:
Raise visa caps for highly skilled workers
Grant permanent residency to eligible graduates with advanced degrees in math, science, and engineering
Eliminate redundancy in federal retraining programs by consolidating programs and funding streams, centering as much activity as possible in a single agency
Give states authority to manage retraining programs by block granting federal funds
Facilitate the creation of Personal Reemployment Accounts
Encourage greater private sector involvement in retraining programs
The Candidates’ Tax Returns
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/01/24/us/politics/the-candidates-tax-returns.html?ref=politics
-January 24, 2012-
-NewYorkTimes- A comparison of 2010 taxes for Obama, Romney and Gingrich.
beautiful world - I'm going to tell you something very cynical - do you know that they know everything you're saying is true - but that they don't care? Romney supporters have money - they like being elite, they like watching the downtrodden struggle - it makes them feel good and special sort of like snow-flakes and leads them to believe they are much better than you - very type a and competative because "life is a game that you have to win - no matter who you step on once you have money no one really looks at that because you've "won"" . They just need to sell him to the voters - which they really don't have to do since the media is doing it for them but have to make it look fair when Diebold rigs the next election.
I believe the correct term is, Big Woooop.
Now it's on to the next circus tent.
it's gonna be exciting when Romney is President. finally someone I can trust in the government.
You have a VERY low trust threshold.
But hey, he looks better than Newt on TV.
I trust Mormons.
harry reid is a mormon and he cannot be trusted.
Harry Reid is a dumbazz
lack of trust in harry reid has nothing to do with his religious beliefs. harry reid is filth personified.
muwahahahahaaha!
way to go Tim.. Get Obama out.... Shovel ready, Not !
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Looks like he's really doing great in the MN polls.
Newt is trying to contest proportional delegates in FL as opposed to winner takes all.
How popular is Romney amongst OWS?
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It's going to be interesting if he can scoop up the states that are usually dem
What do you think he should do to help the citizens? I'm guessing that he'll cut the red tape that has been put up by previous Presidents that's been impeding corporate growth.
He'll win there too.
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Who cares? Romney has been the Establishments choice from the beginning. Why do you give a damn about that useless theater?
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You're too late. They were already evicted when you posted that. And what does that have to do with Romney?
he was celebrated today with glitter
He really stuck it to Obama in his speech last night, huh? Go Romney!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&ved=0CDUQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2012%2F02%2F02%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Fcampaign-moves-west-in-wake-of-big-romney-victory.html&ctbm=nws&ei=vaYpT7OgMc30sQKG7JnkAg&usg=AFQjCNGXqe81oiUiiKywiKPCgU4f0pXyfA
Looks like he's on a roll now!
I prefer people that have experience in the real world vs. career politicians, which is what most of the other ones are including Obama.
I got one word: "Romneycare".
Mitt has no way of debating Obama over Obamacare,that issue will be completely taken off the table if Mitt is the nominee.
I will hold my nose during in Nov. if he is the nom.
Mitt is going to be McCain 2.0 I'm afraid, he too will lose to the POS POTUS Obama.
I just think he is not a real Conservative and that there are too many people who think he will be no different than Obama.
I know he would be way better than Hussein,but I know he is campaigning like a ruthless Democrat and the Repub Elite just love him.
The Repub Elite don't really think Obama can be defeated and are just as happy to keep the House and get the Senate if possible. Mitt fits perfectly into this bullshit plan and I think he's getting set up to lose just like RINO McCain did.
Don't worry you guys will be thankful once you have a job.
yeah right, Mitt's not going to change anything. odd...Very late, last night, after the official announcement, someone told me that Mitt was seen planting a Bank of America flag at the Capital Courthouse in Tallahassee.
:::::::: Guess The Politician & Follow The Money ::::::::
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guess-politician-and-follow-money
-01/16/2012-
A few days ago we presented... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/presenting-mitt-romneys-top-campaign-contributors ...a roster of the top contributors to Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign as reported by OpenSecrets... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/presenting-mitt-romneys-top-campaign-contributors ...Today we have done the same for two other candidates, representing two previous election cycles: 2008 and 2004. The first table shows Romney's key contributors to date.
The other two are the blacklined candidates. We are confident everyone can guess who they are, but just in case, they are presented unredacted below the chart.
It is ironic that nothing really changes at the end of the day in terms of whose bidding is ultimately performed by the president, whoever it may be. We have highlighted those Romney donors who are identical to previous campaign cycles.
(((Guess Which List Of Camapign Contributions Went To Who Here))) http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Candidates%20Blackline.jpg
(((Find Out Where These Campaign Contributions Went To Here))) http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Candidates%20Full.jpg ...is the same chart but unredacted .
And due to popular request, here is John McCain '08... http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00006424 ...whom Goldman liked about 75% less than O'Bama.
Here are some relatively pertinent words on the matter from Jon Stewart from circa 4 years ago (h/t nolsgrad).
Been there done that.
You?
I can't wait to get a republican back in the white house, especially a responsible one that can get us out of this government spending mess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ege_RBhh37A&hd=1
So that's where you get all your information and beliefs,........youtube.
This explains a lot.
You, on the other hand are full of "belief", but no information.
Actually you don't have the attention span or diligence or comprehension to read links you are given. But shooting your mouth off and talking shit is definitely your forte.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5KgSstEmQ4&hd=1
excellent Tim. I'm with you 100%... Let's have pres who loves the USA...not one who destroys it.
sure Mitt Romney a guy who sends jobs overseas guts companies lays Americans off and steals their pension funds ---you kind of guy because that's the new sorry state of America.
do you buy into ALL that the left has to say?