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Forum Post: Romney quizzed by Occupy protesters at N.H. town hall meeting

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 7, 2012, 10:01 p.m. EST by jk1234 (257)
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From article below, one Romney response to making a more just country: “If you can come up with one that’s better that what was brought forward by John Adams and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, I’m all ears, but until then I am in favor of the one that was presented by the founders of this country.” http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2012/01/04/romney-quizzed-by-occupy-protesters-at-n-h-town-hall-meeting/

Any good quotes by Jefferson, Washington, and possibly Adams to dispute Romney's claim that he favors the ideals presented by the founders of this country?

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[-] 3 points by jk1234 (257) 12 years ago

NDAA:

Jefferson: "That general warrants, whereby any officer or messenger may be commanded to search suspected places without evidence of a fact committed, or to seize any person or persons not named, or whose offense is not particularly described and supported by evidence, are grievous and oppressive and ought not to be granted."

Adams: Article XIV of the Massachusetts Declaration of the Rights written by John Adams and enacted in 1780 as part of Massachusetts Constitution added the requirement that all searches must be “reasonable” and served as the basis for the language of the Fourth Amendment:[citation needed] Every subject has a right to be secure from all unreasonable searches, and seizures of his person, his houses, his papers, and all his possessions. All warrants, therefore, are contrary to this right, if the cause or foundation of them be not previously supported by oath or affirmation; and if the order in the warrant to a civil officer, to make search in suspected places, or to arrest one or more suspected persons, or to seize their property, be not accompanied with a special designation of the persons or objects of search, arrest, or seizure: and no warrant ought to be issued but in cases, and with the formalities, prescribed by the laws.[13]

[-] 2 points by jk1234 (257) 12 years ago

Colin Powell’s chief counsel believes #NDAA created for #OWS “protester types” – not terrorists - according to occupy blogosphere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F-TRHKoKh2g#! (listen at 7:12)

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

thanks for sharing the video. Awesome piece of information. I just shared it on a few other websites.

[-] 2 points by jk1234 (257) 12 years ago

On Corporate Personhood:

Jefferson: “I hope we shall…crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and to bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

–Thomas Jefferson, letter to George Logan, November 12, 1816

[-] 2 points by jk1234 (257) 12 years ago

On Banking:

Jefferson: I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.(though some dispute that this is a direct quote from Jefferson)

Washington: "But if in the pursuit of the means we should unfortunately stumble again on unfunded paper money or any similar species of fraud, we shall assuredly give a fatal stab to our national credit in its infancy. Paper money will invariably operate in the body of politics as spirit liquors on the human body. They prey on the vitals and ultimately destroy them. Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice." -- George Washington in a letter to Jabez Bowen, Rhode Island, Jan. 9, 1787

[-] 3 points by jk1234 (257) 12 years ago

More founding father quotes:

Andrew Jackson "If Congress has the right [it doesn't] to issue paper money [currency], it was given to them to be used by...[the government] and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations" — President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836

James Madison "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." — James Madison

[-] 1 points by ImaDawgDoo (10) 12 years ago

Romney repeats the fable that a corporation makes profits...and from those profits jobs are generated by that corpration hiring new workers. It isn't the prime concern for any corporation. All corporations generated their capital to begin operating from shareholders. Therefore, their first priority is to insure a good rate of return to those shareholders...so that they can get more capital from those satisfied shareholders if needed. Only if the shareholders are satisfied can the corporation hire more workers...but the shareholders always come first. Once again, the root of the problem is that the fruits of their labor go to the shareholders instead of the workers whose efforts made the profits.

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