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Forum Post: Rising Share of Americans See Conflict Between Rich and Poor

Posted 5 years ago on June 24, 2012, 9:14 a.m. EST by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL
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Yet more data from opinion polls. Evidence that people are just getting more and more furious with the status quo.

This is heading for some kind of eventual showdown. Why do the filthy rich do nothing? Do they not remember the French Revolution?




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[-] 1 points by JPB950 (2254) 5 years ago

The survey doesn't identify how many of those people consider themselves part of the poor or somehow invested in this economic conflict. The same survey points out a similar number of people see conflict between immigrants and native born. This looks more like a measure of middle class perceptions then a building of emotion to storm the Bastille.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 5 years ago

From the article:


About the Survey

This report is based on findings from a Pew Research Center telephone survey conducted with a nationally representative sample of 2,048 adults ages 18 and older living in the continental United States, including an oversample of 808 adults ages 18 to 34. A total of 769 interviews were completed with respondents contacted by landline telephone and 1,279 with those contacted on their cellular phone. The data are weighted to produce a final sample that is representative of the general population of adults in the continental United States. Survey interviews were conducted under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates International, in English and Spanish.

• Interviews conducted December 6-19, 2011 • 2,048 interviews • Margin of sampling error is plus or minus 2.9 percentage points for results based on the total sample and 4.4 percentage points for adults ages 18 to 34 at the 95% confidence level.

[-] 1 points by JPB950 (2254) 5 years ago

Thank you. Based on the wording of the question though I think you're being optimistic if you think the people answering the survey are themselves furious with anyone. It asks if they think there is conflict, like asking if you think their is racism, the responders may think there is but not feel any animosity personally.


[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

They know this population is WAY too apathetic for a French Revolution.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

At this point, I almost hope nothing changes, that Romney wins. For no other reason than the belief that the resulting consequence is what it will take to set things straight. We all know where this leads and if that isn't enough of a deterrent, let it come.

[-] -3 points by vvv0624 (-13) 5 years ago

We all may not know "where this leads". Please enlighten us.

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 5 years ago

Mother, mother

There's too many of you crying

Brother, brother, brother

There's far too many of you dying

You know we've got to find a way

To bring some lovin' here today, yeah

Father, father

We don't need to escalate

You see, war is not the answer

For only love can conquer hate

You know we've got to find a way

To bring some lovin' here today

Picket lines and picket signs

Don't punish me with brutality

Talk to me

So you can see

Oh, what's going on

What's going

Mother, mother

Everybody thinks we're wrong

Oh, but who are they to judge us

Simply because our hair is long

Oh, you know we've got to find a way

To bring some understanding here today

Picket lines and picket signs

Don't punish me with brutality

Come on talk to me

So you can see,

What's going on,

What's going on

Tell me what's going on

I'll tell you ya, what's going on

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

You're younger than me so if you think letting the country go to shit is a joke, then please keep laughing. You have a lot longer left on this planet to deal with the consequences.

[-] -1 points by vvv0624 (-13) 5 years ago

There are two things I know to be true: (1) I don't know how old you are. (2) You don't know how old I am. So if you're lying about something so obvious, why should we believe you about anything else? And besides, your reply provided none of the information I requested to clarify your claim.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

Since you're here to do reactionary research, I will not retort with anything useful. http://blog.richardkentgates.com enjoy. PS, your thesis is going to make you look worse than any amount of trolling you've done on this forum and your name will be attached to that. Better pick a different subject.

[-] -1 points by vvv0624 (-13) 5 years ago

Gibberish in hopes of redirection. You have no clue how old I am, poser, and without that data saying I am "younger than you" was at best speculation on your part. Admit that or STFU and go away.

[-] 0 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 5 years ago

Better to create a new constitution (or revolution), as follows:

We the peoples, in order to secure Freedom and Justice for All, do enact this Constitution for Strategic International Systems LLC (or SIS LLC) as summarized in the following Business Operations Forecast:

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This means you will have 75% employee business control over your workplace as business officers and, as bank officers, 25% customer business control over all 12 investments (or businesses) in your new bank investment account. In turn, with this 100% town-level business control of your 3,000 workplaces, you can decrease your 12 customer consumption expenses by 75% for services, vehicles, education, retail, food, construction, technology, manufacturing, wholesale, health, justice, and banking expenses; that is, over your first 12 years of SIS LLC membership using a 75% more effective and efficient town design, and related 3,000 workplace designs (herein). Furthermore, while creating your new town & workplace design as described by this constitution, you will replace today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, with your new small investment club banks, and related small businesses (or investments), as proposed, financed, and patronized by your 3,000 investment squad sites of 16 friends (or virtual specialties) in your internet investment legislature of 50,000 friends (or virtual town).

Why? First, because today’s executive business income (mostly from bank or financial asset income) is 33% of all income which is a huge amount of upper 1% income to split among yourselves as new bank officers having 25% customer business control, right? Second, because today’s executive business wealth is 42% of all wealth which is a huge amount of upper 1% wealth to split among yourselves as new business officers having 75% employee business control; that is, only after becoming new bank officers (above) first, right?

For example, this means if you earn $12/hour today, then you will earn $36/hour tomorrow after adding (1) your old wage income, plus (2) your 33% (more and new) interest income as a new bank officer, plus (3) your 42% (more and new) dividend & gain income as a new business officer. Together, these 4 sources of wealth & income from your specific 12 businesses (or investments) will double your net worth every 6-12 years (until retirement); that is, from the compound interest decline of today's upper 1% executives whom you will replace as the new bank & business investor-officers. So, with this power, let’s end today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, okay? How? By helping to operate your own Business Operations Forecast (above) at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ ; so help us help you, today!