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Forum Post: Righties, Put Obama's ACA in your filthy mouths and SUCK IT!

Posted 5 years ago on June 28, 2012, 11:20 a.m. EST by JS93 (-321)
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[-] 5 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

health care should be free and not dependent on insurance

the middle man is unnecessary

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 5 years ago

Well said Matt !!

If you give health care to all; paid for through taxes; and remove the "for profit" component; you would save 30%+ right out of the gate. Some of the things you do need to spend money on to supply health care to someone is doctors, nurses, hospitals, drugs, medical equipment, clinics, etc. The one thing you don't need is insurance companies. They offer no service except to jack-up the costs and provide a return for their investors at patients expense. Through sheer volume, we could self insure ourselves at a much cheaper price and more efficiently.

Think about it. The only way an insurance company can make money is to collectively overcharge their customers the percentage of profit margin, over and above their expenses. The expenses include the paying of claims, but also include, executive pay and bonuses, employee pay, benefits, taxes (maybe not), Marketing and Administrative Expenses ( you even have to pay for their TV ads), utility costs, maintenance costs, and much, much, more; that are passed directly to the patient on top of already high actual health care costs.

A 2004 economic study published in The New England Journal of Medicine determined that a national single-payer healthcare system would reduce costs by more than $400 billion a year "despite the expansion of comprehensive care to all Americans." I'm sure that figure has increased since then.

I think the cartoon at the bottom of this page says it all -


What has become the law of the land, is a new tax for the middle class. They now have us by the short hairs. If you think us being #1 in health care costs and #37 in service is bad now ...................................... you ain't seen nothin' yet !!


[-] 0 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

In war, you don't get everything you want. Especially when we have so many deserters and AWOLs.

Unite and Win! 2010 Never EVER Again!!

Elections have consequences.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

this issue is a not war

[-] 1 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

Yes, this is a class war! That you don't realize it is why we are losing!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

no .

[-] 1 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

Wake up! Smell the sabotage, the Citizens United Billions, the brain washed minions!

Germany voted the Nazis into power!

[-] 1 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago


Dear [[First_Name]]: http://www.healthcare-now.org/listimages/mandate1.html

The Supreme Court just released their decision on Obama's Affordable Care Act (ACA), and their decision is that all components of the law - including the individual mandate requiring citizens buy private health insurance - are upheld and declared constitutional.

This decision does not end the fight for expanded and improved Medicare-for-all. We know that our community members' health needs will not be met by the ACA.

We already have the infrastructure in place to create a national single-payer system by simply expanding Medicare to everyone, and excluding private health insurance companies.

We urge you to:

  1. Send emails, and then calls, to your Congress members and the President;
  2. Write letters to the editors of your local newspapers explaining why we still need a universal publicly-financed healthcare system;
  3. Hold public demonstrations outside of private health insurance companies or hospitals. Or attend one of these:

  4. Washington, DC - Today

  5. Albany, Rochester, Ithaca, New York City (PNHP) - Today
  6. Memphis, TN - Today
  7. New York City, NY (OWS) - Today at 11:30am and Friday, June 29 at 5pm
  8. Louisville, KY - Friday, June 29 at 4pm

The ACA:

  • Will not achieve universal coverage--at least 26 million people will remain uninsured.
  • Will not control healthcare costs, leaving Americans vulnerable to bankruptcy.
  • Embeds private, for-profit insurance in the system's core, allowing them to continue to profit and game the system at our health's expense.

While a national single-payer system, such as the one proposed in Representative Conyers' (D-MI) National Health Care Act (HR676), would:

  • Cover all necessary medical care for everyone living in the US from birth to death.
  • Reduce healthcare spending by a minimum of $400 billion a year by significantly reducing administrative costs.
  • Remove for-profit insurers from the system along with their excessive profits and CEO salaries.

Please take swift action now with the message: Medicare: improve it and expand it to everyone!

In solidarity for single-payer, Healthcare-NOW! National Staff and Steering Committee

P.S. Michael Moore will be in Philadelphia, PA this Saturday. Hear what he, the folks featured in SiCKO, and Wendell Potter think about the decision.

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[-] 1 points by HempTwister (667) from Little Rock, AR 5 years ago

You are going to lose your compassion card. ;p

[-] 0 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

Blood lust for compassion!

[-] 1 points by HempTwister (667) from Little Rock, AR 5 years ago

Two months till Guild Wars 2 release. Not sure my blood lust can wait that long. My tongue is bleeding from biting it.

[-] 0 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

Breaking Bad!

[-] 1 points by Justoneof99 (80) 5 years ago

Brilliant comment. Very insightful and and an invaluable contribution to the public debate.

[-] -2 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

I'd like to thank my mother and... where's that fucking list!



[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 5 years ago

There are a lot of anarchists in addition to the statist leftists in Occupy. Do the anarchists even pay enough attention to current events to have an opinion about the establishment forcing them to become customers of health insurance corporations?

[-] -1 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

The RW, America-hating, authoritarian Naysayers have plagued America since it's inception, good thing we'll have Death Panels!!

[-] -1 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

And remember you "healthcare purists," we would not even be discussing this topic if McCain-Palin won in 2008!!! So STFU about insurance!! 2010 could have taken care of that, but you were too busy POUTING!!!!

[-] -1 points by foreeverLeft (-264) 5 years ago

I want to welcome the millions of young people to the mandatory tax rolls! When you watch that ACA money leave your paycheck think of all us less fortunate folks who have the time to sit in waiting rooms for our medical care you are now paying for! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

[-] 0 points by JS93 (-321) 5 years ago

C'mon, you can do better than that!


Bite it!