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Forum Post: Revolution - what is it? Many seem to be confused or stuck on a single definition - their's.

Posted 2 years ago on July 20, 2012, 2:58 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Revolution From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search "Revolt" redirects here. For other uses, see Revolt (disambiguation). For other uses, see Revolution (disambiguation) and Revolutions (disambiguation). Page semi-protected Part of a series on Revolution French Revolution Methods[show] Causes[show] History[show]

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A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time. Aristotle described two types of political revolution:

Complete change from one constitution to another Modification of an existing constitution.[1]

Revolutions have occurred through human history and vary widely in terms of methods, duration, and motivating ideology. Their results include major changes in culture, economy, and socio-political institutions.

Scholarly debates about what does and does not constitute a revolution center around several issues. Early studies of revolutions primarily analyzed events in European history from a psychological perspective, but more modern examinations include global events and incorporate perspectives from several social sciences, including sociology and political science. Several generations of scholarly thought on revolutions have generated many competing theories and contributed much to the current understanding of this complex phenomenon.

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[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

Another true OWS post. Wow! They sure are getting hard to find on the partisan, current events site that this has become

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Occupy is all encompassing. Wallstreet crime and the meltdown it caused is just the tip of the iceberg.

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

any manifest of social unrest. isn't otherwise

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Isn't otherwise? What?

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

you tell me

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well I suppose I might if your comment made sense.

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQZ-6Z10jU&feature=fvwrel more woman have to be involved. i dont know, i just feel this way.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

All Women should be involved.

BTW an Interesting instrumental.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 2 years ago

Che Guevara wrote revolution does not necessarily mean a change in government, but it is change in the thinking of man.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yes a shift of paradigm. What is broken can be fixed. Just need the correct people involved - the people.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

Revolution: completing a cycle. a complete revolution.

In terms of mankind and the evolution of civilization , when old methods break down we implement new methods ..creating a new cycle; from idea to implementation, use and break down. The struggle becomes in letting go of the old and implementing the new .. as in the french revolution .. the absolute point of break down began with the storming of the bastille.. with the American revolution the breaking point was reached when the angry merchants fired that first shot.. In both cases the breaking point was a long time coming..

Have we , in current civilization reached a breaking point? has the extreme wealth and abject poverty caused mankind to address change .. to rethink civilization .. to step back and look at the 'big picture' .. I believe we have.. and the picture ain't pretty.. the idea of unfairness is growing in the hearts of many .. we are nearing the breaking point .. a new revolution is on the horizon ..

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

A revolution in science - guns involved?

A revolution in electronics - guns involved?

A revolution in cooking your turkey - just set-it and forget-it - guns involved?

This does not speak to violence as being necessary to revolution ( it is people who add the qualifier ) :

A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time.

[-] 2 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

..Guns need not be involved.

During the French Revolution, and the American Revolution Democracy did not exist. There was no alternative but to use force against an oppressive ruler. But now, we have democracy .. and all participants of democracy submit to the final outcome of vote. Democracy is a way to make peaceful change .. delegated by vote , not violence.

We will make change through democracy. Petitions will help to have our voices heard .. and ideas presented to our representatives in office.. from there decisions will be made.. and the world will be watching.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you.

Yes and actions like Move to Amend.

People getting involved.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

People like you, DKAtoday.

..and many others struggling to bring reason to the light of day.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

All of the good people here - all of the good people involved with other action groups like the Sierra Club and Union of Concerned scientists and credo and Green Peace and Care2 and Progressives United and don't forget to include yourself etc etc etc and growing etcetcetc.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

YES, all those..

..and also all the people whom struggled to give us the freedoms we have .. all the past revolutions .. incremently making changes in civilization .. there are a lot of 'thank you's ' lest not forget.. the sorrows and suffering.. the uphill battles .. to over power the evils of the past.. many lives were sacrificed .. many good lives ..

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

More than enough reason to save this country. It can be a great country but it needs it's people to look after it and take care of it.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

save the country , save the planet .. are there really any other options !?!

I sometimes wonder .. if we the people are worthy of all the sacrifices of the past generations...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The people of the world are worth the sacrifices our predecessors made - they wanted us all to have a better life - now we just gotta get to it. With all of the occupy groups and movements and all of the other positive activist groups we need to wake up everyone else - slap down the apathy and just do it.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Please name me some revolutions involving power structures that didnt invlove violence. Revolt.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Not the point that I was making.

Shift your paradigm Eeyore.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

"A revolution in cooking your turkey - just set-it and forget-it - guns involved?"

Then what WAS your point? You always claim that you are misunderstood, yet you never clarify further.

What was your point?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Read the post - take your time - go through it several times if you need to. Then maybe think about a comment to make.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I guess you cant explain something that doesnt exist. Thanks for wasting everyones time as usual!!!

hahahaha

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Here ya go - since you can't seem to find your way to the top of the page I brought it here to you. Now maybe you can find someone to help you read and comprehend it.


Revolution From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search "Revolt" redirects here. For other uses, see Revolt (disambiguation). For other uses, see Revolution (disambiguation) and Revolutions (disambiguation). Page semi-protected Part of a series on Revolution French Revolution Methods[show] Causes[show] History[show]

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A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time. Aristotle described two types of political revolution:

Complete change from one constitution to another Modification of an existing constitution.[1]

Revolutions have occurred through human history and vary widely in terms of methods, duration, and motivating ideology. Their results include major changes in culture, economy, and socio-political institutions.

Scholarly debates about what does and does not constitute a revolution center around several issues. Early studies of revolutions primarily analyzed events in European history from a psychological perspective, but more modern examinations include global events and incorporate perspectives from several social sciences, including sociology and political science. Several generations of scholarly thought on revolutions have generated many competing theories and contributed much to the current understanding of this complex phenomenon.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

ya, great, still doesnt answer my question as usual. Dont post shit unless you want to discuss it.

Good bye.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28106) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Sorry if you are comprehensively challenged.

TaTa

[-] 0 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 2 years ago

Nice post. Something I was wondering about is how long (when?) it will take for a revolution to occur in America.

"The human race is not divided into the irrational and the rational, as some idealists think. All humans are irrational, but there are two different kinds of irrationality--those who love old ideas and hate and fear new ones, and those who despise the the old ideas and joyfully embrace new ones"

-Robert Shea/Robert Anton Wilson

I hope this doesn't sound too paranoid, but I think those who are trying to control the world have learned from history. Take the Third Reich for instance, I'm no expert on this subject, but it rose and fell in a relatively short period of time (1933-1945). I don't think America is headed down the same path as Nazi German; it's moving on a different tangent with a different outcome, but a same general level of control over its citizens (and eventually the rest of the world.)

What I mean by "learning from history", is that instead of implementing drastic changes on a rapid scale, the powers that be are slowly destroying countries and trying to make people believe it's a natural progression (ie: economic). Peoples rights will begin (have already begun) eroding, and they will become much more dependent upon central governments.

But like you say about reaching a breaking point, I don't know how many people strongly support the status quo (20%?), I don't know how many people strongly support revolution (5%?), I don't know how many people just don't care (75%?). But the odds don't seem in our favor at this point.

*The percentages above are just estimates based on my own personal experience in talking with people. I sure think it would be cool to know the real numbers though.

[-] 1 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

Well, we are already in a 'mild revolution'. Civilization is constantly evolving .. with democracy we are making and changing ideas all the time .. although some of the core principles of fairness and equality take time to adjust .. There are those whom simply do not want to change .. and understandably.. there is lot to gain from an unfair society and unfair principles .. extreme wealth is gained off the backs of the hardworking society , and all that wealth gained and the people whom gained it , especially do not want the system to change .. But , as more and more become concerned with the unfairness and inequalities .. of todays society .. old methods begin to weaken and will eventually collapse .. Awareness is the key to solving this puzzle.. awareness amongst the people of what the true unfairnesses are .. will cause a greater interest in change .. for example , this is why in many dictator controlled countries .. the dictator controls what the people know and don't know .. he is afraid the awareness of truth would create an uprising amongst the people he dictates .. but with todays modern tachnoligies ie. the internet , communication is hard to suppress .. and awarness is virtually global .. unfairness days are over .. the light is shining on all the evil ways of society ..and people are begining to take notice .. there is really no turning back .. no avoiding this .. change will come, is coming.

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