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Forum Post: Republican Football Game

Posted 7 years ago on March 9, 2013, 9:03 a.m. EST by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA
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  • Republicans need to stop this constant game.

  • Republicans block key Obama legislation.

  • Republicans block key Obama judicial appointments.

  • Republicans block key Obama appointments to head federal departments.

  • Boys and girls, this is not a football game where the Republicans can only WIN if they succeed in making Democrats FAIL.

  • They are causing the whole nation to fail. We are falling further and further behind other nations in key metrics like education and quality of life and wealth -- except for the top 1%



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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 7 years ago

the Rs are doing what they are PAID to do by the 1%
If I wanted to be inflamitory, I would call this "congressional terrorism"
the Ds are letting them get away with it
why didn't Reid kill the filibuster ?
why is Obama discussing ANY austerity
he should ONLY be talking about raising taxes on the 1% and cutting the military

the answer is simple - sever the link between capitalism & democracy
think about it - what OWS goals could not be reached if this was done?


[-] 1 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 7 years ago
  • BENSDAD, I agree with your observation, but not with some of the others (who have posted here.

  • The others are either ignoring the facts, or you are a shill for the top 1%, or you don’t care about the facts or the middle-class.

  • In 2009, the total wealth of America was $54 trillion

  • If America was a socialist nation, that $54 trillion in wealth would be spread evenly/

  • But, as we speak, the top 1% of Americans have 40% of all of America’s wealth -- and that number keeps growing.

  • At the same time, the bottom 80% of Americans have only 7% of America’s wealth -- and that amount is shrinking.

  • The richest 1% of Americans used to earn 9% of America’s income. Now the richest 1% of Americans take home 25% -- i.e. it has tripled in last 30 years

  • The richest 1% own half the America’s stocks bonds and mutual funds. The bottom 50% of Americans own just 0.5% -- that’s 1/2% -- of stocks bonds and mutual funds!

  • While CEOs used to earn some 12 times to 15 times the earnings of their average employees.

  • Now CEOs get over 380 times what the average worker makes in his company -- bear in mind that this is the “average” worker, not the lowest workers in that company

  • Only a very few of the top Americans ride in corporate jets. Yet we still keep giving them a tax credit -- what? They can’t go through TSA lines, body scans and pat downs like the rest of us???

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 7 years ago

I like your numbers. So many here post imaginings and wishes and pipe dreams and ignore the facts and history and the numbers that prove the truth.
The pragmatic solution begins with HJR29 - and OWS began this effort by declaring the 99% - 1% into the American political dialog.
OWS must take the next step & acknowledge that there is one path to overturn the Rs - and it means pushing the Ds to sever the death grip that their 1% capitalism has on our 99%.
I am not saying the the Ds are perfect or that Obama is a saint or that I always agree with him. But there is NO OTHER PATH to taking our country back from alec-koch-rove-norquist.

[-] 2 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 7 years ago
  • Bensdad:

  • Thanks.

  • If "insanity" is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, what does that say about the Republican Party??

  • We have a "marginal tax system" in America.

  • Everyone pays the same tax rate on the first $1000.

  • Everyone pays the same -- but higher - rate on the next $1000. And so on for each step up (i.e. each marginal tax step).

  • Our Congress has lowered the top "marginal tax rates" from over 93% in the 1950s to about 36% in in George W. Bush years.

  • What has happened in those years?

  • Wealth is more concentrated.

  • Incomes of the middle have flat-lined.

  • Retirement and health benefits for the middle have declined or evaporated.

  • Wealth is more concentrated in the tope 1% than ever before. See above.

  • Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

  • Duh!

  • Is it time for a Revolution? Is it time for the middle to rise up? Is it time for OWS to strap on a set of balls and actually act instead of jerking around?

  • This is about America's future.

  • Other industrialized countries like China, India and the norther European nations are kicking our butts.

  • It is time to stop letting the "Tea Party" jerk us around.

  • Either the entire Congress is working together or we all go down the tubes.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 7 years ago

Congress is the key - we need more 99% supporters like Warren & Lewis & Clyburn & Sanders - and OWS has to acknowledge that supporting ELECTABLE candidates is the only path to cutting the head off of the koch-alec-norquist serpent


[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 7 years ago

It's the brain damage from playing with no helmets.

Have you listened to Mitch McConnell try to answer a simple, real-time press question ???

He couldn't give you directions to get to Reagan National Airport.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 7 years ago

Both parties are equally as bad. Dems and Reps both refuse to provide freedom to their constiuents and are obsessed with providing material wealth to thier constiuents.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago


[-] -3 points by highlander3 (-62) 7 years ago

This is an idealogical war. The democrats have their view, which I beieve is fundamentally wrong; and certain republicans have their view. Compromise is not possible in this atmosphere. One side has to lose.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 7 years ago

When one side loses (Democrat or Republican), then the half of the citizens lose. Which means the ENTIRE nation loses. Not clear what ideology you advocate. Maybe a little detail and understanding would help break down barriers.

[-] -3 points by highlander3 (-62) 7 years ago

to be blunt, then half the citizens lose. But lose what? that is the big question. I believe one party is for a welfare state with a nation of helpless dependents. Certain elements of the other party are not trying to starve or enslave people, they are trying to give the people the power to take care of themselves.

[-] 2 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 7 years ago
  • You can be blunt. You can be uninformed. You are entitled to your own ideology, thoughts, and freedom to speak your mind. What you are not entitled to is your own facts.

  • My background is grounded in science, facts, historical analysis, etc.

  • I would encourage you to look at the following excellent YouTube video. It shows that America is fundamentally going in the wrong direction.

  • We are going in the wrong direction not because of the policies aimed at throwing a few breadcrumbs to the poor and the shrinking middle class.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

  • Duh!