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Forum Post: Republican committee requires voter ID in Massachusetts before delegates vote in the primary

Posted 2 years ago on June 7, 2012, 9:08 p.m. EST by JusticeForTrayvon (34)
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Isn't this wrong/illegal? I know it's only a primary, but can't we stop it? The GOP will take any chance they get to disenfranchise the poor.

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[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

You need an ID to drive, and ID to buy alcohol, and an ID to buy cigarettes.

Why not an ID to vote? Lets expand what can be considered an ID - social security card, non-driving ID, military ID, voter registration card? These are all things people may have - why would a poor person not have these things?

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

The law does not guarantee you the 'right' to drive or buy alcohol or buy cigarettes.

Why does a poor person not have things? Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[-] 0 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 2 years ago

Most states do not allow people who are mentally incompetent to vote. If someone loses a card that was sent to them free in the mail, and doesn't bother to call and have another one sent, are they really "mentally competent"? This sounds like a good enough test to me.

Please don't tell me that borderline functioning people are all the Democratic party has left as an electorate.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

A card is not the same thing as an ID, which is what I thought we were talking about. My point is let 'em use the card, since it is free and does not disenfranchise the poor.

[-] -1 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 2 years ago

Okay. So just to clarify, you have no problem with requiring people at polling places to show a voter ID card issued for free by the state?

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

If it is free with no strings attached. If it a case where a person has to pay 50 dollars to first obtain a copy of their birth certificate or some other nonsense, then I would be against that. Unless I'm missing some other point other than hidden fees that disenfranchise the poor, I don't see a problem.

[-] -1 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 2 years ago

Okay, that makes sense. We're on the same page.

[-] -1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

Like a voter registration card that is mailed to everyone or a social security card that everyone is issued? These things are free. I'm not talking about luxury SUVs or iPhones here.

Are you suggesting that poor people are irresponsible and can't keep track of important documents? I'm not.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

"Like a voter registration card that is mailed to everyone or a social security card that everyone is issued? These things are free."

so let 'em use that.

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

Agreed.

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[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

doesnt matter.. the entire principle of democracy rest on the premise that a person can vote anonymously. and there fore be protected from reprisal for voting against everyone around them. that is why it is reprehensible to demand ID for voting!

[-] 1 points by writerconsidered123 (344) 2 years ago

this is redicules you don't have the rigtht to anonymity to vote what you do have is the right to a secret ballet. meaning only you know how you voted

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

Those two concepts are completely unrelated. When you walk up to the counter, you have to tell them your name and address - why not show some form of ID? How would that make it less anonymous? Besides, the vote can't below completely anonymous or you would have no way to ensure people didn't vote twice.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I think parties prefer to keep the vote legitimacy in question

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

They prefer to keep the attention on us and minimal issues, instead of their overall lack of ablity to do even a sub-standard job.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

thats what a voter registration card is for. they take that info and record it. there is no need of anything else, anything more makes it harder to vote.. thus reducing the amount of people that will vote. thus burdening the voting process

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

They don't currently check voter registration cards when you go to vote. All you have to do is verbally give someone a name. If we simply required people to present a voter registration card when they vote, then that would prevent a lot of potential voter fraud.

[-] -1 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 2 years ago

Because, you know, they're poor! They aren't smart enough to go to the DMV because they're, you know, certain races! I'm not being racist or anything here, but certain groups are incapable of getting a driver's license!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

they refused ID in San Diego polling places

the poll worker should verify identity through unique indicates

let's nor give the elections the chance to justify rigging

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

and subvert the constitution.

[-] -1 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 2 years ago

The Democrat party has always been the party of the constitution! Especially the tenth and fifth amendments!