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Forum Post: (R)epelican'ts Don't Want No Stinkin' Democracy

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 26, 2012, 12:35 p.m. EST by shooz (17825)
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A story on the Kochs in Michigan.

They stay in the background, but make no mistake, this IS their plan for the rest of us.

Hope that this plan is stopped dead in it's tracks, because if it comes to your state, you're not going to like it.........

"Mitt Romney? Yes, but before him, Rick Snyder played the lead role in this made-for-TV political drama--and it hasn't worked out well at all for the people of Michigan. Two years ago, this former corporate chieftain and founder of two venture capital outfits stepped into Michigan's political arena, snatching the GOP gubernatorial nomination from the grasp of a congressman, the state attorney general, and a couple of other experienced pols. The times were right for a Mr. Fix-it--with Michigan's key auto industry in the ditch and middle-class wages decimated, working families were struggling, poverty was on the rise, and whole cities were on the brink of broke. "




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[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5845) 1 year ago

Florida GOP Fired Romney Consultant's Voter Registration Firm After Fraudulent Forms Reported in Palm Beach

Thursday, 27 September 2012 10:45 By Brad Friedman, The Brad Blog | Report


The Republican Party of Florida's top recipient of 2012 expenditures, a firm by the name of Strategic Allied Consulting, was just fired on Tuesday night, after more than 100 apparently fraudulent voter registration forms were discovered to have been turned in by the group to the Palm Beach County, FL Supervisor of Elections.

The firm appears to be another shell company of Nathan Sproul, a longtime, notorious Republican operative, hired year after year by GOP Presidential campaigns, despite being accused of shredding Democratic voter registration forms in a number of states over several past elections.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Strategic Allied Consulting has been paid some $667,000 this year by the FL GOP, presumably to run its voter registration campaigns in the state. That number, however, does not account for another identical payment made in August. The Palm Beach Post is reporting tonight that the firm received "more than $1.3 million" from the Republican Party of Florida "to register new voters."

The firm is not only tied to the FL GOP, but also to the Mitt Romney Campaign, which hired Sproul as a political consultant late last year, despite years of fraud allegations against his organizations in multiple states.

Moreover, the firm is also reportedly operating similar voter registration operations on behalf of the Republican Party, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, in a number of key battleground states this year, including North Carolina, Virginia and Colorado. Strategic Allied has recently taken steps to hide their ownership by Sproul's notorious firm, Sproul & Associates.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

Deep in the heart of Florida.

Now you seeing where the real voter and election fraud are.

Deeply ingrained in the (R)epelican't party.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1320) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

The last thing the cons want is democratically elected representatives running the country. Their perfectly happy with their wholly owned government subsidiary.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

The voter purges we are currently experiencing, were one of the main aims of the Koch funded "charity" known as ALEC.

Is it really any surprise that the attack on freedom in Michigan is also funded at least in part by the Kochs?

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

Good article. Thanks for providing it.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

It's accurate and well written. Thanks for reading it.

Take it as a warning as to what the Kochs may be planning for your State too.

It's my belief that their long term goal is control of the large amount of fresh water, here a bouts.

[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

I wouldn't put anything past anyone with that much money and that kind of determination to mold the country to their desires.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

As well you shouldn't.

Keep in mind their grandfather founded the John Birch Society too.

Their good friend, Paul Weyrich founded ALEC as well, and after his death the Kochs took over funding it.

How much legislation written since, has their finger prints all over it?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

With a supermajority in the senate, GOP members easily rushed their EFM measure into effect, but in the house, the party is 10 votes short of the necessary two-thirds tally. No problem--they simply cheated by pulling a quick count and lying about the result. The presiding officer of the house barked out the following in one breathless, three-second sentence:

"Themajorityleaderhasrequestedimmediateeffect AllthoseinfavorpleaseriseImmediateeffectisordered."

We're to believe that in only three seconds, he called for a vote, the members got to their feet, he was able to count two-thirds of them standing in favor, and he gaveled the law into effect. Magical!


no. That would have me . . . putting my affairs in order . . .

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

Meaning what?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

try it here, mutherfucker, and find out.

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

What? Talking really fast? And was that name-calling appropriate there?

You seem to be threatening violence or something. I was just clarifying.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

do I make threats? I'm not aware that I do . . . . I have, on occasion, been given

I have, in the past,

and most recently I even

But threats on line . . . . ?

I don't believe that is a fair characterization of any of my posts . . . .

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

So you talk about owning guns and you suggest axe-murdering Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts and you've called for the murder of Republicans in general -- but that post about "putting your affairs in order" shouldn't concern anyone?

Am I understanding this correctly?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

A lot of people own guns, those that do own them make no great secret of it - unless the ownership thereof constitutes a felony . . .

Did I suggest murdering the Chief Justice? On the contrary - I merely pointed out that in my opinion he could most certainly be . . . . more suitably attired . . .

Should you be concerned? In light of the most recent comments by carl with a k Rove

I cannot for the life of me imagine why . . . .

[-] -1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

You honestly do seem pretty unbalanced to me, and I kind of hope that the FBI already knows your real name.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

David Winter

Poet extraordinaire

Now you do too.

[-] -1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

Okay yeah, that will make the investigation much simpler.

Try not to shoot any children when you come unhinged, okay?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I will leave that for your psychotic fools like

oh, wait, he didn't shoot kids at all, did he . . . But he was hosted by one Glenn Beck

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

So you keep press clippings on mass shooters too?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Did you know that one Lloyd Homme declared, in Psychological Record 18:

  • We have the capacity to install any behavior we want

That was way back in 1968.

The height of MK.ULTRA

And we just ended the era of waterboarding.

I keep a lot of strange stuff, in an attempt to determine if it can be established that there is a direct correlation between these facts . . . or not . . .

but news clippings? Not so much any more. Now we have google . . .

[-] -1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

Yes, I'm imagining you posting from a tiny, dark room with the walls covered in press clippings with lines drawn between them. And a freezer full of body parts in the next room.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I'm sure I can make room for one more . . . .

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

After Snyder won and the GOP gained big majorities in both legislative chambers in November 2010, the Mackinac Center moved quickly to reprint and circulate Schimmel's paper. Lo and behold , the governor's LGSDFA proposal, which seemed to come out of the blue three months later, actually came out of the Koch boys' Mackinac machine. Snyder's bill included all four of Schimmel's democracy-usurping components, as well as other authoritarian add-ons presumably drafted by the Center.


I'm tempted to suggest this is just the kind of thing that would put me right over the edge - but it appears the people of Michigan voted for the people who put it all in place - whether they knew it or not.

I do hope this serves as a lesson to the rest of America . . .

And I hope the people of Michigan are able to correct these measures as quickly as possible.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

At bottom, the LGSDFA Act is a doozy of autocratic mischief-making. It lets the governor seize control of any local government he deems to be in fiscal trouble, suspend the people's democratic authority, impose a corporatized version of martial law, and install his own "emergency financial manager" to govern by diktat (like some hybrid of Soviet czar and tinhorn potentate--a Bmzklfrpz, in other words).


WTF ~ !

[-] -1 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

Fun stuff, eh?

Repeal of the EFM law is on the ballot, but it took at lot to get it there.

Meanwhile, with auto industry rebounding, Gov Snyder is attempting to take credit for it, and that's just not so.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Snyder sounds like some real piece of work. I am honestly amazed that this whole thing hasn't hit mainstream media - one way or the other . . .

The folks of Michigan have an awful lot of patience, I'll say that.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

Economic downturns always hit the auto industry first, so we are used to it, but this shit is over the top, even for (R)epelican'ts.

It's not in the national spotlight, because the Kochs don't want it there.

No one wants to lose the advertizing dollar.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

That part I get - but Flint is home to Michael Moore - and he knows how to use the media, doesn't he?

Moore aside - all it takes is one instance of mayhem to hit the national news.

I think I find that the lack of mayhem . . . . statistically significant - given the social pressure.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17825) 1 year ago

I too am surprised that Michael hasn't responded more forcefully. Though you have to admit the MSM avoids him as of late.

Perhaps it's the subject of his next film?

The mayhem here in Michigan has been perpetrated over and over by corporations. Most of us it seems, yearn for stability.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13409) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

wow - my sympathies man.