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Forum Post: Reducing Illegal Gun Proliferation

Posted 1 year ago on Jan. 26, 2013, 2:14 p.m. EST by aahpat (1407)
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The greatest demand for black market guns in America is the illegal drug trade. That demand is so huge that it acts to subsidize the cheap and easy to get proliferation of guns to all would-be criminals seeking to escalate their criminality with deadly force.

If the demand for these weapons is reduced then their supply on the street will decline and their black market price will go up making them harder to get by would-be criminals.

Now here is the magic bullet in this equation. If the profit were taken out of the black market for intoxicant drugs there is no other form of illegal activity as lucrative. ALL demand to illegal guns around the world would decline if we stopped the demand by the drug black market.

2007 United Nations World Drug report pg. 170

"The relatively high value assigned to the drug trade is understandable because, unlike human beings, diamonds or firearms, the drug supply is consumed each year and in need of continuous renewal. As a result, drug trafficking remains the single most profitable sector of transnational criminality."

"Drug trafficking is of interest to transnational organized crime groups because drugs generate more profits than any other form of trafficking. Placing a value on illicit markets is difficult, but the estimates generated by specialist organiations show that the drugs trade is greater in value than most other criminal commodities by at least an order of magnitude. In the 2005 World Drug Report, UNODC valued the world narcotics trade at some US$320 billion, a figure in keeping with previous estimates from a variety of sources. Estimates for other major illicit flows are considerably less. For example, in 2005 the International Labour Organization estimated the value of global human trafficking to be US$32 billion. Estimates of the value of the trade in conflict diamonds range from 1.5 - 2 per cent to 3 -15 per cent of the overall trade in rough diamonds. Small Arms Survey puts the value of the illicit firearms trade at no more than US$1billion. The relatively high value assigned to the drug trade is understandable because, unlike human beings, diamonds or firearms, the drug supply is consumed each year and in need of continuous renewal. As a result, drug trafficking remains the single most profitable sector of transnational criminality."

Legalize intoxicant drugs and hundreds of billions of dollars a year in drug profits would no longer by in the hands of gun toting crazies and criminal anarchists who need guns to protect it.

Here is one way to start to legalize drugs:

Tell Congress: End The Jim Crow Pot War In 2013 http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/RESCHEDULE/reschedule_cannabis_in_2013.html

Ending The Jim Crow Pot War in 2013

Senator Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the powerful U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee and a sympathetic ear to pot reform issues, is planning hearings soon to consider the federal response to the legalization votes in Colorado and Washington states.

We can end the war on pot if we engage Sen. Leahy and the Congress NOW on this issue. The war against pot begins and ends in the U.S. Congress.

The time to act is now.

If Leahy is your senator PLEASE consider writing to him and asking that the Congress consider removing cannabis from Schedule One of the Controlled Substances Act and instead include it in subtitle E of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 for distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages and tobacco. This would allow the states to regulate cannabis as they see is best in their communities.

If Leahy is not your senator you can write to your senators and ask them for forward to Leahy your wish that Congress consider removing pot from Schedule One of the Controlled Substances Act and instead include it in subtitle E of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 for distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages and tobacco. You might also express your wishes that your U.S. senators and Representatives join you in your advocacy on this issue to Sen. Leahy.

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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13630) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I remember you - I loose track of most people online, at least, in a forum such as this, where there are no avatars to use as association. Unless I interact on a regular basis - well. Lets face it. I am getting old.

But not you. You I remember.

Bark indeed - you will not convince me this was some typo.

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Your following logic is faulty:

  • If the demand for these weapons is reduced then their supply on the street will decline and their black market price will go up making them harder to get by would-be criminals.

There are already x number of firearms available for private sale. Unless those weapons are removed, then in the absence of buyers they will remain available.

Ending the War on Drugs - either one way or the other - will indeed reduce the amount of money available for illegal weapons purchases. But the weapons will remain.

Ending the War on Drugs will eliminate turf wars over black market sales territory, and will greatly limit access to the black market by high school kids.

But the weapons will remain.

With a constant number available, and a reduction in buyers due to lack of readily available funds, demand will drop, prices will tend to follow. Prices could be kept artificially high with regulation - like stiff penalties for illegal weapons sale or possession - but the general law of supply and demand dictates that barring other influences, when supply is greater than demand, price points fall.

I have seen nothing to indicate that the black market operates counter to the laws of economics.

[-] -1 points by Shayneh (-482) 1 year ago

This statement nailes it right on the head:

"The greatest demand for black market guns in America is the illegal drug trade"

If Americans were that concerned about "doing something about violence in this country", they would stop using illegal drugs - that would be a start.

Should this happen, those weapons used in the "Illegal Drug War" will become "silent" even though they are still out among the population.