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Forum Post: Realism

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 9, 2012, 10:43 a.m. EST by lyn123 (123)
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The war machine is one of our main issues draining the economy. It has continued to create large deficits in the past with little cooperation or means for the American people to pay it back or forward through taxation. It is highly debated how these efforts and sanctions benefit our relationships and guarantee any real sense of security. These policies may not be worth the collapse of our society and the more important loss of human capital. The only "ism" we need to address is realism.

We know our government is dictated by corporations and our military complex. What politicians can't understand is that they work for the citizens who may be willing to hedge their vote on greater peacemaking efforts and they desire greater fiscal responsibility. It may be a youthful and more optimistic tide of change but it seems to be part of the global spring that will benefit all of mankind.

For those who still believe this war effort guarantees our freedoms are not looking at the long term picture. An American economy that plunges any further will never guarantee greater security no matter how large in numbers our ground troops present. It is time to work for the greater majority and we need quality leadership that can do what is fiscally and morally responsible. Lately, there seems to be no one willing to address this but Ron Paul. We need to focus on our own internal affairs; energy policy, infrastructure and our trading relations with partners like China who continue to charge our goods with a VAT tax, steal our technology and tempt our corporations to trade against the benefits of our nation as a whole.

For those of you independents- register republican and vote in the primaries for Ron Paul. If you don't our only options will be Obama and Mitt thereby, business as usual.



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[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

I loved this poat until I got to the words Ron Paul. You need to get some serious education, and you need to get the hell out where you are NOT WELCOME.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again; there is no way that you are going to convince me or very many other people to support Ron PauI. There are a number of serious issues with the current relationship between corporate defense contractors and the Department of Defense, and I would very much like to see that addressed. That said, there is enough wrong with the other parts of Ron PauI's platform that his willingness to put defense contractors in their place simply isn't enough to earn my vote.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

Consider carefully this forum post and my response.

[-] 1 points by lyn123 (123) 12 years ago

I actually agreed with GypsyKing in that it was a sad ending to a reasonably thought out post. But more sadly is that I even considered this to post. Our options are so pathetic and without anyone in this movement making a formal stance against what we have, things will not shake up...you have to work with the pathetic choices coming up in the near elections. The tents, words and sacrifices will not be strong enough to make the changes. They will just continue to discount your brave and meaningful message. They can afford to and they are doing it with ease. The more the unemployment numbers improve, your position will be put in a more precarious place. Change takes a long time and the radical change you are looking for will never come if we are deeply engaged in posturing with Iran. You will change your mind if there was a draft. Be careful, Canada has more strict immigration policies than our country.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

Be careful, Canada has more strict immigration policies than our country.

You are obviously a repeliKan shill - fear mongering on the basis of a resurrection of the draft, which isn't happening, and as far as Canadian immigration goes:

There is no credible information available on illegal immigration in Canada. Estimates of illegal immigrants range between 35,000 and 120,000.[14] James Bissett, a former head of the Canadian Immigration Service, has suggested that the lack of any credible refugee screening process, combined with a high likelihood of ignoring any deportation orders, has resulted in tens of thousands of outstanding warrants for the arrest of rejected refugee claimants, with little attempt at enforcement.[15] A 2008 report by the Auditor General Sheila Fraser stated that Canada has lost track of as many as 41,000 illegal immigrants.[16][17] This number is predicted to increase drastically with the expiration of temporary employer work permits issued in 2007 and 2008, which were not renewed in many cases because of the shortage of work due to the recession.[18]

[-] 1 points by lyn123 (123) 12 years ago

I was referring to living as a legal immigrant as I would personally expect to live in a manner whereby I would be employed, own a home and take advantage of their health care system and educational system. Canada encourages immigration for the skilled and a capitalized entrepreneurial person. Many considering immigration may not be able to bring this to the table.
An illegal immigrant has no right to free medical intervention or ongoing health care under the Charter of Rights. http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/07/08/illegal-immigrants-have-no-right-to-free-health-care-court/ My only point to the post was that we are going to be stuck with a president that will support our war machine. Like it or not, the tent cities will need to take a more physical revolt to make them stop sending troops abroad. I am not a fear monger,quite the contrary. I believe many others are and that is why we are exploited by our government's continued imperialistic behavior. I also think it is very sad that the troops are sent back three or more times. They should bring back the draft because that will bring out more people to demonstrate against these policies.