Forum Post: Real solutions will come out of OWS
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 31, 2011, 12:10 a.m. EST by NortonSound
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Real solutions, here's how we get them in short order.
Corporations: Buy a share of stock in the offending corporation, have like minded friends do the same. Attend their next shareholder's meeting and make your voices heard.
Government: Listen to a politician's statement on labor, worker's rights, and the social safety net. If you like what you find, then vote for them, even consider promoting their election.
Fox News: Turn it off and keep it off.
the single most important thing to d oto get real solutions brewing is get to textbooks to find them and the second most important thing is to get that communicated in an organized fashion on the wiki.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ
http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw
http://www.opensecrets.org/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/our-new-wiki/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/
Cool. Also include the history of the Edsel.
wonderful example.
Here my solution.
Vote Ron Lawl & stop the fed.
I like dr. paul. anybody else? It would not be a clear message if you bought share in a company you don't want to support just to decide corporate pay or something. If we reinstall specific regulations that were removed in 1999 we could fix the business end. But they still have our dollars, and the Fed is still a secret private run entity that gives it to them. So I suggest we find some one who wants to fix this. Like dr. paul.
Dr Paul is awesome, but not electable in his lifespan. Reinstalling regulations? Not in our liffetimes. We must become a voting member of the corps and remind them that they are actually winning the short term dollar but will soon feel the impact of the longer term dollar loss as the symptoms begin to set in. Business history is full of the mistakes they are making today. Amateur mistakes that forget about the long term viability of a corporation that is gambling with its future, labor force and government's ability to protect it from invading forces and want-a-bee's. At the core of it, these corporations are run by dummies that just want to get through one more overpaid pay cycle, and if you have ever met the bad ones I speak about, you know that's all that's up there in their heads. The long term model of over 10 years does not support the viability of greed and corruption. I'm sure like me you can name at least 100 no longer operating corporatiions that succumed to greed, and turned off their custmer base for good -- remember that in the early 1900's they sold radiioactive "Radium" products that endangered thousands, those companies are gone forever.
It seems your tactic would play into the corporatist system which the movement means to end through the institution of a government that is established by and for the people of our country. It is the authority of the government that we must utilize to regulate business, to keep them from engaging in business practices that put at risk our entire economy let alone our homes and the value of our currency. In the case of companies that run on greed or corruption, they have been enabled to operate in countries that are friendly to such ideals. Such as China, a manipulative authoritarian state of propaganda and rights violations. Thus they have been able to survive and even thrive while undermining our voice here in respect to containing this problem.
I agree in pricipal, but have witnessed enough years of real time experience to believe that until we educate the banks and corporations of their own folly, here and abroad, things will not change. Banks here and abroad have gone clean out of business on similar mistakes, yet corporations are almost ignorant of their histories, and keep repeating the mistakes of the past. When customer buying power dries up later this year, we will see them beg for mercy.
Isn't it sad that these economist businessmen have little understanding of the historical context in which they operate. Little changes as man may be complicated but in the same patterns of behavior. So if we are to expect the same behavior it must be regulated effectively. I would like to see these business leaders and bankers be educated in this respect, but I do not trust that this will ultimately solve the problem. Their job is to seek profit and success for their business entities within the confines of the restrictions imposed by the regulator. Those regulators having derived their power through the consent of the people, and forming their regulations through such consent.
I couldn't agree more, but the best regulation is the layer of regulatiion that is imposed due to the fact that the survival of the fittest also applies to business and banking, and now the public is receiving an education from those like us, and if they don't adapt to the new changes in their business environment, they will go the way of the dinosaurs, I mean the Edsel.
A vote for D or R is a vote for FAscism.
look up corporatism. It is more appropriate, though I agree with your sentiment about political parties. With reservations for dr. paul.
No, from today on we only vote for the person. We ask the person, are you taking donations from corp's who are outsourcing jobs, importing raw materials to those foeign countries and then shipping the products back with lots of shortcuts, because outsourced labor is actually costing even the corp's more than simply employing Americans, etc. Parties are just people driven, and if we give up the vote, then the corps win, that would be an evil corps dream come true, like the myth of the liberal media and the lamestream media, just makes weak minded small business people stop advertising their businesses because they think they are supporting the lame-steam media, and they say things like, nobody watches tv or reads the newspaper any more, and the internet's just a joke. That they say as all the customers go to Walmart. That's just another corporate trick played on America. They don;t give a damn what party you are in, they just don't want you starting a company lke Steve Jobs did, from his garage and taking huge market share away from them. Oh wait, Sam Walton started out from his garage.