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Forum Post: Rand Paul Proves, the Apple Doesn't Fall Far From the Tree.

Posted 10 years ago on July 9, 2013, 9:25 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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Still think Ron didn't know what was in his own newsletters?

He did, and his son knows full well who this guy is and what he stands for.

"As the arguably white nationalist Southern Avenger, Hunter praised the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, saying he “raise[s] a personal toast every May 10 to celebrate John Wilkes Booth’s birthday,” compared Lincoln to Saddam Hussein, and suggested the great American president would have had a homosexual relationship with Adolf Hitler, had the two ever met. He also advocated against Hispanic immigration and in favor of white pride, warning that a “non-white majority America would simply cease to be America.”

http://www.alternet.org/3-most-disgusting-deceptions-junk-food-industry-using-you

There is ample proof that it's part and parcel to libe(R)tarians in general.

http://www.businessinsider.com/exposing-the-racist-history-of-libertarianism-and-murray-rothbard-2011-10

The modern Republican Party and its chic libertarians have dallied with white supremacists as a political necessity, because blacks and other minorities have rallied to the Democrats due to their better civil rights record. But the Right’s dancing with the racist devil is not new. It’s as old as the Founding, writes Robert Parry.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/17290-the-marriage-of-libertarians-and-racists

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[-] 4 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 10 years ago

It's easier to address the ignorance of a child than that of a conservative/libertarian adult. A child has natural unregulated curiosity and wants to know the truth. A con has had curiosity curbed by its masters and has been trained to hate the truth in that and all things. As with racism that's common to conservatives, their “knowledge” is all but universally self destructive. It's designed to conserve the wealth of the ruling classes of all Earth's nations of people, by pitting population factions against one another both internally and externally. The right is wrong. The ignorance and stupidity that makes it so are carefully cultivated by the rich and their principal servants.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

The "Avenger" resigns......sort of.

His middle name should be HATE.

News of Hunter’s resignation broke just as the Washington Free Beacon was publishing more samples of his racist commentary, from a CD he once sold on his own website, “Southern Avenger Smash Tracks: 20 Essentials, Vol. 1.” In one, Hunter compares Lincoln to Adolf Hitler and the South’s Civil War defeat to the Holocaust. “The sadistic policies and tactics of Abraham Lincoln destroyed the America of the Founding Fathers,” Hunter declared in one track. “And as I gaze at the picture on my wall of my great grandfather, who fought bravely against that sick bearded bastard, I still dream of what could have been — our glorious Confederate States of America….The reason we Southerners remember the war is because it does matter — just like slavery, just like the Holocaust.” In another track he says whites deserve a “long overdue” thank you from African Americans for ending slavery. “If it weren’t for white people, who knows how long slavery would have lasted?” he asked. “The very fact that slavery still exists today in African countries like Ghana and Sudan really makes one wonder.”

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/rand-pauls-white-supremacy-double-game

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[-] -1 points by BandOnTheRun (-1) 10 years ago

He resigns, yet Democrat Gloria Platko soldiers on. What's her middle name? "Racist Democrat"?

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2013/jun/25/mich-clerk-recorded-using-slur-wont-leave-post/

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Zilla?

You're still a one trick pony that can't deal with the truth.

But then you never could.

One is a slip of the tongue, ( she will lose her job BTW) and the other is completely institutionalized. He will go mouthing his hate speech.

Hate speech that fits "right" in with Mr. Paul's hate filled libe(R)tarian agenda.

Just like his daddy before him.

[-] -1 points by Listen2TheBanned (-4) 10 years ago

You voted for Gloria Platko, didn't you?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Nope.

Not even possible, but it doesn't surprise me that you would assume such a thing, after all you believe lies are dissent.

Lies are not dissent, they are simply lies..

None of this, of course has anything at all to do with the ass that Mr. Paul employed, nor his racist statements.

It's just YOU pretending once again that lies are dissent..

They're just lies.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Further research on the libe(R)tarian ties to racism.

Rand Paul’s Neo-Confederate Aide July 19, 2013

Exclusive: Throughout U.S. history, anti-government libertarianism has been intertwined with slavery and racism, from the movement’s early icons – including many slaveholders – to today’s hero, Sen. Rand Paul, who hired a senior staff aide who has espoused extreme neo-Confederate views, reports Robert Parry.

http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/19/rand-pauls-neo-confederate-aide/

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Also forgotten, is what he actually supports.

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/libertarianism-covers-racism

So this "avenger"......fits "right" in with the rest of attitude

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

The modern Republican Party

Currently - there is NO modern republican party - there may actually be some in office that still consider themselves to be republican - But - As for the party? - for all practical intents and purpose it does not exist - NO the majority of individuals in office that are attributed to being in that party are in actuality Corp(se)oRATist's of the Corp(se)oRATion Party - they just have not announced their change of allegiance.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Ahh, the misrepresentatives of the GOP.

From terrorizing women, to saying NO to ANY law not endorsed by ALEC.

They go no further these days.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

From terrorizing women

Stepford people in office - NOW THAT is tragic.

saying NO to ANY law not endorsed by ALEC.

As well as corp(se)oRATion pawns/lackey's. The people can not wake up fast enough.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Well, there was that knee jerk law in Florida.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/10/oops-florida-has-outlawed-computers-and-smartphones-says-new-lawsuit.html

Lost without ALEC, they are incapable of writing effective, logical legislation on their own.

But then, Scott should be tried as a felon anyway.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Florida forced back into the stone-age or face criminal penalties for using technology. aAHhahahahaha what an idiot.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Creating laws, that create frivolous lawsuits, that waste tax payer money.

A win win, for the small government, government is bad libe(R)topians.

Reagan would be proud.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Raygun is whooping it up in his grave - firing off his six guns.............

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Those are stage props...............:)

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Of course - they didn't want him shooting himself in the foot - not with something that would leave a mark anyway. {:-])

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Who are you and why did you come here to ask stupid questions and blatantly lie?

Are you as issue free as trashy?

Thanks for bumping this important thread though.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

adoy - u forget which sock U were? U deleted Ur comment B 4 others could see Ur slip? AAHhahahahaha idiot.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

It's all about Libertopia.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

There's quit a bit of truth about it here.

I would expect to fall quickly.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Sure. What the libertopians don't like to talk about is how the cling like dogs to anyone's leg that will have them. Anyone's. They just kind of excuse that away.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Some of them don't like to be equated with the parties founders either.

Confused lot, don't you think?

They can't accept that the Koch's are their natural leaders.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

The Teathuglicans?

Yep.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

And now........Sarah's coming back to rescue them.

How sad is that?

I guess they need a mindless replacement for Michelle.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

She's not going anywhere. She burned too many bridges.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

FLAKESnews will take her. They'll take anybody who spews their shit.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/sarah-palin-fox-news-out_n_2553421.html

Sarah is out there. Unless the msm does a 360 and all of a sudden gives her airtime.........I don't think she is going to make a come back.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

If they'll take Elizabeth?

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2013/07/10/2276221/hasselbeck-joins-fox/

It's just a matter of time before Sarah's back too.

She's already done interviews with FLAKESnews personalities on their radio programs.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Ya, she is a nitwit.

[-] -1 points by houston10 (-7) 10 years ago

" Unless the msm does a 360 and all of a sudden gives her airtime"

http://community.write.com/topic/1120-understanding-360-degrees-vs-180-degrees/

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Sweet heart, they would have to go back to the beginning. It's 360.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Still - because she is a woman - there will be many that will blindly support her. Blind support for equality - overlooking the reality of the individual being supported.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

That is true.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

It is an unfortunate thing is it not? The way some people think - ummm - don't think.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

It isn't equality that they preach, tho'.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

It isn't equality that they preach, tho'.

The main supporters? Thecorp(se)oRATist's umm repubs in office? Damn straight it isn't - they support Stepford - they just have not quite completely made that full announcement yet either.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Well, they have a female support base that doesn't want to move out of their comfort zone. Don't rock our boat, honey. Their survival is based on the success of the mens.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (15640) 43 minutes ago

The Stepford/Shiafly syndrome.

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LOL

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Stepford is the only explanation I have for them to have support from any woman. The Threat of Stepford?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

The Stepford/Shiafly syndrome.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

The Democrats and Republicans are deeply rooted in racism as well.

There's not a lot of options if you are looking for parties who are 100% free from any ties to racism, but theres a few.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Completely ignoring the topic.

Completely ignoring the links.

Are you a libe(R)tarian?

Or do you just ignore a lot of information?

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

A racist on Rand Paul's staff? You want me to be surprised? The guy backed Romney for crying out loud.

I'm just stating that if you are against racism, you have to cross the Dems and Reps off your list too.

You've spent more time as a libertarian than me my friend, I never went down that road.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

What the hell are you even talking about???

Ron and Rand ARE reps. as you call them. there is a definite (R) after their names.

You want to show the Dems that have recently published all kinds of racist newsletters and hired clansmen to run their campaigns?

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

"Are you a libe(R)tarian?"

Im saying that you used to be a libertarian, so by your own logic you were a racist at that point.

You can call me whatever political names you want, Im further from the right than most people. Someone else here called me a "drunk koch whore" last night. That was classy.

Im sure Byrd and Paul had quite the connection back in the day.

To hell with all of em.

The three of you can attack me all you want, and spin everything to one side all you want as well.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Pretty good attempt at deflection, but I'm not falling for it.

I've met far too many here who don't deal with the info in the thread and then refuse to answer easy questions.

Instead, attempting to turn it into an insult.

Considering your hate of unions, demonstrated in another thread, you may very well be a Koch whore. You certainly haven't proven otherwise by this attempt at deflection.

So?

Are you a libe(R)tarian, or do you just stick up for their "values"?

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Hey, you are one saying in one breath they are racist, and then in another saying you used to be one.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You should try actually reading the links of the thread, instead of making thing up.

I take this as a personal attack from a liar, that can't stay on subject.

From someone who refuses to answer simple, honest questions.

How long before the thinly veiled insults take their veils off?

I get it Ron and Rand are your personal hero's, and you refuse to believe the truth about them.

I would expect full denial in your next insulting response.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 10 years ago

Man, you just can't help yourself, can you? You're incorrigible, heheh.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Its bullshit. It doesnt matter what I post, it will get attacked. Former libertarians calling ME a Koch whore. Total bullshit.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You're bullshit.

That's why you don't answer questions.

Fucking Rand lover.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/11/rand-paul-defends-secessionist-aide-confederate-flag-like-smoking-pot/

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[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 10 years ago

Oh yeah, it's totally bullshit, I agree. Like GF's comments on that other thread about the cop shooting the Sunday school teacher. Hence my comment. You just can't resist engaging these guys that hit you just because it's you.

But, fuck it, J. Most of us know you're legit.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

If you have something to fucking say, then say it. Don't bullshit around.

That article had nothing about nothing about sentencing. I am the one that provided that information.

[-] -2 points by 65deadflies (-2) 10 years ago

I heard TikiJ is Thrasy! Be careful, his powerful ideas might melt your mind! You might want to ask a moderator for protection. Being out in the cold jungle without a guardian angel is risky business.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Or stood against taxing the wealthy & corp(se)oRATions or really fucked-up the ACA or stand against ending fossil fuel subsidies - or deny climate science or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or ..........

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Welp.

They are highly pro pollution...............:)

Effective at convincing certain others to be so too.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/400-sign-the-koch-pledge-to-pollute-the-planet/

400 and counting.

As long as it's not leaking onto their own property.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

As long as it's not leaking onto their own property.

I'm not sure that "that" is something they have ever considered.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Will they sue themselves, when it does?

That would be good for laugh.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Will they sue themselves, when it does?

No doubt and put the insurance companies in serious danger of failure - thereby - then go to the Gov and seek a bailout to protect them from themselves.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

LOL the ultimate absurdity.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

They would do it - they really would. And Boner and Bitch and Rand and Ryan and Goatner and Burnyankenit and and.........Would all be right up front in urging the bailouts.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You're tiki?

I guess it figures.

Did you do any research on the Pauls?

[-] -1 points by kneelb4zod (-37) 10 years ago

Tiki? Is that a racist slur? What the hell is a tiki?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You'd have to ask tiki. Perhaps he's insulting Polynesians?

It was who I was responding to when you came onto the scene with your one trick pony.

[-] -3 points by kneelb4zod (-37) 10 years ago

Tiki slurs. Failure to condemn Gloria Platko. You're throwing out some racist vibes here. Your misspelling of "Klansman" was a nice attempt to deflect, but we all see you for what you really are.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Sorry, but I and others have provided you with an overwhelming body of evidence of racism in the GOP, that proves it to be not just endemic, but actually institutionalized.

You have provided VERY little and have offered NO comment on the topic of the thread.

Sorry too, that I misspelled your favorite organization.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

[-] -1 points by RachelMore (0) 9 minutes ago

A moderator has the responsibility to show a good example. You shouldn't attack other users, bully, use childish language, etc... Ban those you want to ban, and be serious to others.

As for ZenDog. I don't think you should have banned him. I saw his profanity. It wasn't cool. But, you should have given him a warning first. Then banned him if he didn't stop.

Similarly, you should give a warming to GirlFriday for constantly soiling the forum with profanity.

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Oh Go Play with YOURSELVES over on 4chan. U know U and Ur other hoard of socks? kneelb4zod etc etc etc

I can't blame ZD or GF 4 being disgusted by U.

[+] -4 points by RachelMore (-7) 10 years ago

You shouldn't assume that everyone who disagrees with your partisan politics is the same person. I am not kneelb4zod. As a moderator you should be more responsible and give a good example. Check your assumptions before making accusations. Verify IPs, and other pieces of data to find out who is who and what is what. Don't insult others, bully, etc... You are a moderator. A role model.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

kneelb4UrToilet. Ur aim will B better there as U spew Ur crap - less mess on the floor.

[-] -3 points by RachelMore (-7) 10 years ago

A moderator has the responsibility to show a good example. You shouldn't attack other users, bully, use childish language, etc... Ban those you want to ban, and be serious to others.

As for ZenDog. I don't think you should have banned him. I saw his profanity. It wasn't cool. But, you should have given him a warning first. Then banned him if he didn't stop.

Similarly, you should give a warming to GirlFriday for constantly soiling the forum with profanity.

[+] -4 points by kneelb4zod (-37) 10 years ago

Please don't talk to me you racist. I can't be associated with anyone from a town named "C**n Rapids" You sicken me.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

[-] -1 points by kneelb4zod (4) 3 minutes ago

Please don't talk to me you racist. I can't be associated with anyone from a town named "C**n Rapids" You sicken me.

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Must B why U kneelb4UrToilet.

Not a problem - Go post on 4chan - U will think U R in heaven. U will B accepted there.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

kneelb4UrToilet.

[-] -2 points by kneelb4zod (-37) 10 years ago

Did you vote for Ryan Winkler? That would explain the racist name of your hometown.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

kneelb4UrToilet.

The town of my birth is Denver - the town I currently reside in was named for the fur trade.

Did you vote for Ryan Winkler?

Nope.

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[-] -1 points by kneelb4zod (-37) 10 years ago

Is this lady still around or did she get the Paula Dean treatment?

http://thisweekinblackness.com/2013/04/29/gloria-platko-calls-town-official-nigger/

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You'd have to look it up , as it's completely off subject. I really don't think she hired a white power pusher to guide her campaign.

[+] -4 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

one cannot read everything

it would help to identify the politician

but honestly, i don't pay much attention to republicans

not worth the read

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

He was named in the thread title.

How did you miss that?

[-] -2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I didn't miss the name

just at a loss for the significance

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Perhaps if you put that misunderstanding in adequate words?

Attenuation, being an interesting choice of term here.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

attention

the media chooses ti give this man those useless rable raisers republican race

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Incomplete sentences are just that.

Incomplete.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

yep

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Truest word you've ever spoken, or just the most complete sentence?

Complete sentences are the most effective way of communicating.

An adage for you.

Practice, makes perfect.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

it is a list break by periods.