Forum Post: Public Opinion of Occupy Wall St. Favorable
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 19, 2011, 5:55 a.m. EST by metapolitik
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In a new Time/Abt SRBI poll, 54 percent of Americans say that they are favorable to the OWS movement.
Only 23 percent are unfavorable, and another 23 percent say they don’t know enough to have an opinion.
This makes the OWS movement’s favorability rating is TWICE AS HIGH as that of the conservative Tea Party movement: Just 27 percent are favorable to the Tea Party, compared to 33 percent who are unfavorable and 39 percent without an opinion.
Bump. So more people will see the above info.
We are not going away.
We have changed the game and we are just getting started.
And if we did leave, we could just take our protest here:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/winter-is-coming-lets-occupy-the-caribbean/
...and talk with some of the vacationing 1% !
Most people I have talked to agree that Congress is bought and it needs to stop and that the financial system needs an overhaul. What I stress is that this movement is not a political movement like the Tea Party, but a movement for social change,and a new world. A lot of people fear change because the change is unknown. Let's all keep the conversations flowing.
Yes I agree, let's keep the conversation going. Permanently.
But at some point were going to have to address geopolitics if we expect to get anything accomplished in our lifetimes.
I have been watching the privateer pigs dismantle this country for 30 years and I only just now feel that we are even an inch closer to reigning in the madness.
54 percent of Americans say that they are favorable to the OWS movement, TWICE AS HIGH as that of the conservative Tea Party movement.
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As an interesting, but completely unrelated side note (unless you count feats of inductive reasoning - in which case, it's still a complete non-sequitur)...
I require exactly 0% of the average Tea Bagger's Viagra intake before engaging in sexual intercourse with a consensual adult partner. Also, I am completely Olestra free, meaning no anal leakage.
Just to lighten things up a bit :)
dont make this a OWS vs tea party (though I know its tempting seeing for a number of reasons)
a certain % (even if its relatively small) of tea party types can be brought over.
OWS Party!
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be divisive.
I was just quoting the article (verbatim) to show everyone that the country is behind us.
54 percent of Americans say that they are favorable to the OWS movement, TWICE AS HIGH as that of the conservative Tea Party movement.
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I think this is an important subject reight now, as the mainstream media is intent on conveying the message that the movement's losing popularity. That is NOT true.
Well, with about major media 6 corporations controlling almost everything that we watch, listen-to, or read... No surprise.
Right, that is why, as I have said before, we need to find ways of countering this message beyond our efforts on the streets. The opinion makers can play this card of, "the movemet's losing populatity" and turn it into reality through repetition, because most people are trend followers rather than trend setters. Here, I am out of my element, because I am from that generation only superficially fluent in the use of computers. Those knowledgeable about uses of the internet must find creative means to both counter that message, and to reach out to Middle America, in order to show that their problems are the problems we seek to rectify. The farm forclosures that have been going on relentlessly and aggressively since the 1970s might be a good place to start. Their is a lot of unvented anger and riteous indignation surrounding that issue, which could help power this movement, if we actively seek to tap it.
Well said.
Vast, distributed, relentless, grassroots media campaign. We need to all become our own individual AdBusters and ceaselessly spread the message that so-called "rational self interest" (primary tenet of modern capitalism) is, in-fact COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL on a shrinking planet and that a better, fairer economy awaits us all. One that has strong social programs a la "socialism" but allows little guy to be entrepreneurs as-well and that keeps major banks and corporations from unfair theft, manipulation and usurpation of our economy and our government.
I have written about this here:
http://myopsy.blogspot.com/2010/06/deep-green-democratic-socialism.html
...and Here:
http://metapolitik.org
We agree totally here. This has become one of the two most important challenges we face. The other is in coordinating BOLD plans for concerted action to powerful effect, as well as continuing those spontaineous actions made possible through the net. In otherwords, leaderless movements tend to break up through simply too many voices and not enough concentration of effort.
We must both vigourously (sp) spread the possitive message of our movement through every media means possible, and make plans for concerted future action of national significance. These two things must become, for now, our primary goals if we are to progress.
Don't forget there is tons of negative media.
Which makes it all the more extraordinary!
FYI, a Dutch colleague of mine sent me the link below which is a translated page of a Dutch newspaper. Four Dutch members of parliament visited OWS and in the absence of a spokesperson they talked to random people. And that was it. They just left with a general impression and four pin-point discussions with random people who could have been the village idiots and traveled back to Holland without having a contact to fall back to for future purposes. Wouldn't it have been great if a delegation of OWS would have been ready to receive them, show them around and discuss a comment set of demands?
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkskrant.nl%2Fvk%2Fnl%2F2824%2FPolitiek%2Farticle%2Fdetail%2F2980230%2F2011%2F10%2F21%2FKamerleden-bezoeken-Occupy-Wall-Street-in-New-York.dhtml
If that weren't the case OWS would have been evicted by now.
At this point, an eviction would be PR suicide (for the establishment).
True. They don't want the attention or the blow-back.
Especially after that Tony B. incident. Good thing for us, the media was ALL OVER that.
its about time:)
Good deal
I think the tactics of the authorities are just going to make this movement more and more popular, in spite of the suffering they are inflicting on us.
Great post.
Great Post!
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Yes, bump away!
The actual banking system has to be dissolved. The system with its interests and interest on interest, which leads to exponentially growing debt, lets go whole companies and now countries bankrupt. This is an absurd system, which is only made for the 1 % richest, the bankers. They have the exclusive right to print money (central banks which are a private institution consisting of a committee of all participating banks) and lend to every project that seems to make the most of money. With this exclusive printing rights, combined with interest, money gets channeled constantly from the 99 % of population to the 1 % rich without us even noticing it. What happens when we cant pay back our debt anymore, which has to happen in an interest on interest system where dept is growing exponentially? We are getting really enslaved by the banks. Expenses for health care, education and infrastructure has to be cut, the age of retirement is raised constantly only to pay the rich bankers. So we effectively live and work for them, for financing their luxurious houses, parties and vacations. Slavery, not anymore by force, but with system. This system has a catastrophic side effect:
www.themultitude.org
Just heard a recent survey, this from CNN, 36% have a favorable views, 29% unfavorable, and 26% have never heard of the movement :(.
Confirms what I've been hearing.
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www.themultitude.org
I'm confused... There is:
http://multitudeproject.blogspot.com/2011/10/what-are-occupation-camps.html
http://groups.google.com/group/multitudeproject
...and:
http://www.themultitude.org/forum/
Are these all related?
Also, assuming this is you, I re-posted an excerpt and link to your article on emerging cities:
http://metapolitik.org/blog/protests-as-emerging-cities
Not familiar with the first two. Just www.themultitude.org
And way more favorable than Congress's rating.
So true!
Without a doubt.
Yes, but... "They don't know why they are protesting!" ...................... Here's an editorial cartoon addressing that claim that the corporate media is mouthing....................
//i.imgur.com/wDOu1.png
So True
TheMultitide.org
Thank God!
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Let's get corporate money and influence OUT of politics. Bring back democracy by the people, for the people.
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Wow. that's encouraging. Buttons are selling: we are the 99% at the protest in Zucotti Park. Hoping they are the hottest item on sale this season! Perfect Christmas gift, and reasonably priced too.
Yes, and 99% condoms make a great 'stocking stuffer' (lol)!
http://rt.com/news/occupy-wall-street-condoms-599/
Only problem is that poll is almost two weeks old :(. No recent polls have been done since, and with the different factions breaking out now in the movement, and the right endlessly playing youtubes where they call the protesters anti-semitic, and where the Democratic President has taken more money from Wall Street than all Republican contenders combined, I can't imagine recent polling being good at all :(. It's so depressing.
That may be, but it was only a couple of days old when I made this post.
Anyway, I have no reason to believe the numbers have dropped.
If anything, I think the major news media has refrained form publishing another poll as it would reveal that the number has climbed even higher.
I wish I could share your optimism but I can't :(, the media has been reporting this protest extensively in a good light but we still haven't gotten nowhere near the numbers that the Washington Tea Party protests got :(.
A GOOD LIGHT?!
You are out of your mind!
Sorry, but if you had read the OP, you would see that 54% (OWS) is higher than 24% (TP). I can't even believe I am letting you bate me into discussing it further.
Are you trying to sound stupid?
Trying to sound stupid? I don't have top try! the Tea Party got hundreds of thousands in their Washington rallies, I was hoping that we would get the same amount at our rallies and we haven't, and we've become a laughingstock :(.
No, you don't have to try very hard do you.
Wow. Calm down. Why the sudden snap? A rational person was trying to express his/her doubts about current support for the movement. Just because a poll was new when you posted it doesn't mean the numbers are still indicative of the population today. Opinions change. Support fluctuates. Maybe support for OWS has decreased and maybe it's increased. No one knows past their own personal impression because there isn't a recent poll.
Poster is directly contradicting the evidence that is sitting right in front of her.
While it is true that the numbers may (or may not) have changed since the poll was taken. There is no reason to assume the former. Especially without evidence or precedent to support such an assumption.
There is no reason to assume the numbers have changed and there is also no reason to assume they have stayed the same. Give me some evidence to support your assumption.
I'm not making any assumptions and neither should the poster.
That is my point.
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